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  • Cali512
    Registered User
    • Jan 2012
    • 6393

    Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

    I would be happy with any of these guys! How would you rank them? The title is how I do
    Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
  • k-oneputt
    Registered User
    • Jun 2009
    • 7131

    #2
    Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

    I'll go with your ranking right now.

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    I like Grier at W. Virgina too.

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    • kingJofNYC
      Registered User
      • Sep 2009
      • 5960

      #3
      Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

      Mayfield is really intriguing, want to watch him the most. OU had the most efficient offense in the nation last season.

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      • Cali512
        Registered User
        • Jan 2012
        • 6393

        #4
        Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

        Rudolph may end up having the most elite upside this year. Like legendary upside, his ball placement is freaking incredible. He got hit and through a perfect 50 yd pass where only the WR could get it. Darnold is great
        Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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        • Mr. Pink
          Peterman Sucks!
          • Mar 2006
          • 35303

          #5
          Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

          A name I like better than a couple on your list...Luke Falk out of Washington State. Another guy to watch.

          This past weekend he went 33 of 39 for 311 yards and 3 TDs against lowly Montana St.

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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107434

            #6
            Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

            Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
            A name I like better than a couple on your list...Luke Falk out of Washington State. Another guy to watch.

            This past weekend he went 33 of 39 for 311 yards and 3 TDs against lowly Montana St.
            His mechanics drive me nuts.
            COMING SOON...
            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • Mr. Pink
              Peterman Sucks!
              • Mar 2006
              • 35303

              #7
              Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

              Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
              His mechanics drive me nuts.
              I like his short compact release, I don't like how he seems to hop around in the pocket when he has time to throw and how he reverts to throwing off his back foot or throwing flat foot often.

              But you can't argue his results even if they'd likely be better if he was actually driving through his throws consistently.

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              • Cali512
                Registered User
                • Jan 2012
                • 6393

                #8
                Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                A name I like better than a couple on your list...Luke Falk out of Washington State. Another guy to watch.

                This past weekend he went 33 of 39 for 311 yards and 3 TDs against lowly Montana St.
                Eh, 2 of the tds were shovel passes and he took a stupid sack at the one. He's good but he reminds me of petty
                Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107434

                  #9
                  Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                  Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                  I like his short compact release, I don't like how he seems to hop around in the pocket when he has time to throw and how he reverts to throwing off his back foot or throwing flat foot often.

                  But you can't argue his results even if they'd likely be better if he was actually driving through his throws consistently.
                  I just don't think the skill set translates at all. His arm is decent but it's all arm action and if he can't step and drive the ball down the field he's going to be in for a short career. I don't see him make enough of those intermediate throws over the LB and before the safety that are vital in NFL, nor do I see him able to beat zone coverage by abusing the gaps with pinpoint throws. He's a lot of quick slants, bubble screens, and 5 yard or less throws into space.

                  To be fair I have issues with Rudolph's mechanics as well. His tendency to go onto his tiptoes while making intermediate throws is something I've never really seen.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • Homegrown
                    Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2774

                    #10
                    Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                    Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield ...Sounds like a law firm ... don't wait - better call 8


                    Bills have 2 1st rounders - draft two QB's ... that's essentially what Dallas did when they drafted Troy Aikman & Steve Walsh ... one was garbage - the other was a 3 x SB winner & HOFer

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                    • Cali512
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 6393

                      #11
                      Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                      I just don't think the skill set translates at all. His arm is decent but it's all arm action and if he can't step and drive the ball down the field he's going to be in for a short career. I don't see him make enough of those intermediate throws over the LB and before the safety that are vital in NFL, nor do I see him able to beat zone coverage by abusing the gaps with pinpoint throws. He's a lot of quick slants, bubble screens, and 5 yard or less throws into space.

                      To be fair I have issues with Rudolph's mechanics as well. His tendency to go onto his tiptoes while making intermediate throws is something I've never really seen.


                      Rudolph has elite arm talent though to make up for it, and runs a pro style offense
                      Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107434

                        #12
                        Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                        Originally posted by Cali512 View Post
                        Rudolph has elite arm talent though to make up for it, and runs a pro style offense
                        His arm talent doesn't make up for it imo, but he looks to have worked very hard in the off-season to get away from it. In the opener v. Tulsa his feet were much better.
                        COMING SOON...
                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • DraftBoy
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 107434

                          #13
                          Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                          Originally posted by Homegrown View Post
                          Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield ...Sounds like a law firm ... don't wait - better call 8


                          Bills have 2 1st rounders - draft two QB's ... that's essentially what Dallas did when they drafted Troy Aikman & Steve Walsh ... one was garbage - the other was a 3 x SB winner & HOFer
                          Maybe, but I don't know if we do that without a #1 WR and a 30 year old RB (at the time of next season) with nobody behind him who we are developing.
                          COMING SOON...
                          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                          • Cali512
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 6393

                            #14
                            Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                            Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                            His arm talent doesn't make up for it imo, but he looks to have worked very hard in the off-season to get away from it. In the opener v. Tulsa his feet were much better.

                            Watch his 2 50 yd passes vs Tulsa, his arm is insane


                            Its like a missile
                            Last edited by Cali512; 09-05-2017, 01:36 PM.
                            Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                            • DesertFox24
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 2129

                              #15
                              Re: Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield

                              I want no part of Darnald his throwing mechanics scream Blake Bortles all over again.

                              Josh Rosen is by far and away the number 1 guy based on mechanics and physical abilities.

                              Rudolph, Allen are up there buy have limitations that draft boy pointed out. The QB from western Kentucky Mike White has good mechanics and a nice arm as well and is another to keep an eye on.

                              I am not a lamar jackson fan.

                              Luke Falk like Rudolph that system just does not translate well to the pros.

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