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DraftBoy
10-27-2017, 07:28 PM
Lots of people here wanted Dareus gone and now he is. Whether you like the deal or not, isn't really the point of this thread.

Much of the discussion has been about how talented Dareus was and how well he fit within the current scheme.

At the time of his trade here are our defensive rankings:
Rush Defense - 3rd in NFL
3.4 YPC
4 TD
84.5 YPG
3 FF

Pass Defense - 20th in NFL
63.5% Completion Pct
7.0 YPA
5 TD
9 INT
13 Sacks
259 YPG

Defensive DVOA Rankings - 8th (-10.8%)

Let's see how these numbers do over the remainder of the season.

Tatonka
10-27-2017, 07:58 PM
he only played 33% of the snaps.. so factor that in as well.


Lots of people here wanted Dareus gone and now he is. Whether you like the deal or not, isn't really the point of this thread.

Much of the discussion has been about how talented Dareus was and how well he fit within the current scheme.

At the time of his trade here are our defensive rankings:
Rush Defense - 3rd in NFL
3.4 YPC
4 TD
84.5 YPG
3 FF

Pass Defense - 20th in NFL
63.5% Completion Pct
7.0 YPA
5 TD
9 INT
13 Sacks
259 YPG

Defensive DVOA Rankings - 8th (-10.8%)

Let's see how these numbers do over the remainder of the season.

Night Train
10-27-2017, 08:12 PM
It's not whether we wanted him gone. McDermott wanted him out of the locker room and sent a message.

The next draft. 2 1st, 2 2nd, 2 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th

This will be a fine rebuild....the right way.

Night Train
10-27-2017, 08:19 PM
If Dareus plays enough, the pick can be a 5th rounder.

Mace
10-27-2017, 08:51 PM
he only played 33% of the snaps.. so factor that in as well.

Yes, this is pretty significant. The end numbers will reflect the impact of a rotational DT who turned it on or off as he felt like it. Dareus himself didn't even provide reliable data in his percentage of the snaps.

Injuries to EJ Gaines and Humber also have an impact.

To be honest I think they're coached up and overachieving anyway. Will still be interesting to see how the defense ends up.

Generalissimus Gibby
10-27-2017, 09:39 PM
Lots of people here wanted Dareus gone and now he is. Whether you like the deal or not, isn't really the point of this thread.

Much of the discussion has been about how talented Dareus was and how well he fit within the current scheme.

At the time of his trade here are our defensive rankings:
Rush Defense - 3rd in NFL
3.4 YPC
4 TD
84.5 YPG
3 FF

Pass Defense - 20th in NFL
63.5% Completion Pct
7.0 YPA
5 TD
9 INT
13 Sacks
259 YPG

Defensive DVOA Rankings - 8th (-10.8%)

Let's see how these numbers do over the remainder of the season.

With several of the best qbs in the game ahead of us that 20th against the pass alarms and frightens me.

jamze132
10-27-2017, 10:38 PM
Lots of people here wanted Dareus gone and now he is. Whether you like the deal or not, isn't really the point of this thread.

Much of the discussion has been about how talented Dareus was and how well he fit within the current scheme.

At the time of his trade here are our defensive rankings:
Rush Defense - 3rd in NFL
3.4 YPC
4 TD
84.5 YPG
3 FF

Pass Defense - 20th in NFL
63.5% Completion Pct
7.0 YPA
5 TD
9 INT
13 Sacks
259 YPG

Defensive DVOA Rankings - 8th (-10.8%)

Let's see how these numbers do over the remainder of the season.

You're better than this man. Too many variables to determine if ONE player had that much of an impact. The injury to Gaines ensures that Shareece Wright has to ****ing play. And now we have to play a rookie in Milano taking over for Humber. Also, teams will figure out, if they haven't already that Alexander can't cover anyone and it will be exploited.

swiper
10-28-2017, 05:13 AM
It's not whether we wanted him gone. McDermott wanted him out of the locker room and sent a message.

The next draft. 2 1st, 2 2nd, 2 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th

This will be a fine rebuild....the right way.

Systematically dismantling the mess that Doug Whaley brought to Buffalo. The winning is proving how wrong Whaley was in his approach.

Dareus was the big chunk I thought they wouldn't be able to unload this season.

If anyone can "slap" Dareus back into reality, it would be Doug Marrone. They just re-upped Telvin Smith as well.

YardRat
10-28-2017, 01:58 PM
he only played 33% of the snaps.. so factor that in as well.

Than we shouldn't expect to see much of an impact on the standings, should we?

Mace
10-28-2017, 10:51 PM
Than we shouldn't expect to see much of an impact on the standings, should we?

Same thing. Too many variables. You can't say Dareus had a big effect on them being 4-2, he hasn't even played much, much less all that well when he did, until last game.

feldspar
10-29-2017, 03:22 AM
It's not whether we wanted him gone. McDermott wanted him out of the locker room and sent a message.

The next draft. 2 1st, 2 2nd, 2 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th

This will be a fine rebuild....the right way.

We'll see.

We know that Beane & Company are good at dumping previously high-picked and costly players fearlessly. Let's see how good or lucky they are at drafting. Those picks mean nothing unless they translate into good players, and that may or may not happen as well as people might assume.

DraftBoy
10-29-2017, 08:29 AM
Same thing. Too many variables. You can't say Dareus had a big effect on them being 4-2, he hasn't even played much, much less all that well when he did, until last game.

That's a bit of a cop out. Dareus only plays 33% of the snaps but we know that's almost exclusively on run downs so we should be able to see a direct impact on the run defense. The pass defense impact may be harder, if not impossible, to measure.

YardRat
10-29-2017, 08:57 AM
I expect the rush defense to be affected. I just hope it's not a significant enough change that we revert to the Pettino defense that consistently was gashed up the middle, between the tackles. That is my concern.

Novacane
10-29-2017, 01:42 PM
The defense is looking better without that quitter.

Novacane
10-29-2017, 03:06 PM
Bills defense 1 Dareus 0

Generalissimus Gibby
10-29-2017, 03:21 PM
With several of the best qbs in the game ahead of us that 20th against the pass alarms and frightens me.

First test against good qb passed. If we do the same against the Saints and Pats then I won't be as worried.

Bill Cody
10-29-2017, 03:39 PM
If Dareus plays enough, the pick can be a 5th rounder.

If he played enough the fat load would still be here

justasportsfan
10-29-2017, 03:46 PM
Stats dont paint the exact.picture. Carr throwing for a lot of yards today may drop our pass D ranking even lower even though Carr wishes he never faced our Dareus less D.

No is questioning Dareus talent. It's is head that's screwed up.