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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Big Mistake

    Trading Dareus at this point in the season when we had a top 10 run D was not smart.

    They could have gotten similar compensation after the season or during the draft.

    Our DTs are not prepared to handle the role he was filling on the DL.
  • sahlensguy
    Registered User
    • Mar 2015
    • 13479

    #2
    Re: Big Mistake

    Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
    Trading Dareus at this point in the season when we had a top 10 run D was not smart.

    They could have gotten similar compensation after the season or during the draft.

    Our DTs are not prepared to handle the role he was filling on the DL.
    Yeah, not sure what the rush (no pun intended) was.

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    • Novacane
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 42374

      #3
      Re: Big Mistake

      Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.

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      Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.

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      • sahlensguy
        Registered User
        • Mar 2015
        • 13479

        #4
        Re: Big Mistake

        Originally posted by Novacane View Post
        Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.

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        Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.
        And in the remaining seven games?

        I get the trade now if OBD didn't think we were going to make the playoffs anyway. But why then also trade other assets for Benjamin?

        We just gave this asset away. Why?

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        • Mahdi
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 10585

          #5
          Re: Big Mistake

          Originally posted by Novacane View Post
          Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.

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          Not a mistake. He wasn't going to make a difference in 2 blow outs.
          I think he would have made a huge difference in both games. Both teams were running dive and belly the whole game for big yards.

          That can change everything in a game.

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          • Novacane
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 42374

            #6
            Re: Big Mistake

            Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
            I think he would have made a huge difference in both games. Both teams were running dive and belly the whole game for big yards.

            That can change everything in a game.

            A single defensive player is not changing the outcome of 30 point defeats.

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            • kscdogbillsfan1221
              Registered User
              • Nov 2007
              • 5652

              #7
              Re: Big Mistake

              well, personally I think Tyrod should have played better defense today too, especially against the run.


              in all seriousness, everybody sucked ass today. God that was awful.

              actually, I didn't watch the fourth quarter. Still don't know the final score and don't want to. lol
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              I saw.
              I conquered.

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86315

                #8
                Re: Big Mistake

                Huge mistake by the new guys, the biggest so far IMO.

                They made a rookie mistake...they started to believe their own hype, and media hype. The good start gave them a false sense that they had a Midas touch regarding roster moves and felt infallible, so they pulled the trigger on a guy that probably wasn't falling in line as quickly as they'd like but was an integral part of their early success. The 'but...but...he only played 45% of downs' is an ignorant rationalization. If he's a main force in stuffing the run on early downs and that's helping to lead to turnovers and wins, he doesn't have to play 100% of the plays.

                Coaching only goes so far (and I'm a big believer in it being a difference-maker), you still need talent.

                Don't kid yourself either with the 'he's only one guy' excuse. The difference between winning and losing is a fine line...inches...small plays that add up over time. When 1-2 yard runs on first down consistently become 4-5 yard runs (or more) that's significant enough to have a dramatic impact on a game, and eventually a season. Leads to more first downs, more points, longer drives, more time on the field for the defense, etc etc.

                The bottom line is this crew fubared this season when they traded Dareus and 'Well we didn't expect much anyway' doesn't mean ****. A team needs to be able to take advantage of opportunity when it presents itself...which it did this season...and their cockiness pissed it away more than anything.

                Hopefully they are man enough at some point to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes...especially this one.
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                • sahlensguy
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 13479

                  #9
                  Re: Big Mistake

                  Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                  Huge mistake by the new guys, the biggest so far IMO.

                  They made a rookie mistake...they started to believe their own hype, and media hype. The good start gave them a false sense that they had a Midas touch regarding roster moves and felt infallible, so they pulled the trigger on a guy that probably wasn't falling in line as quickly as they'd like but was an integral part of their early success. The 'but...but...he only played 45% of downs' is an ignorant rationalization. If he's a main force in stuffing the run on early downs and that's helping to lead to turnovers and wins, he doesn't have to play 100% of the plays.

                  Coaching only goes so far (and I'm a big believer in it being a difference-maker), you still need talent.

                  Don't kid yourself either with the 'he's only one guy' excuse. The difference between winning and losing is a fine line...inches...small plays that add up over time. When 1-2 yard runs on first down consistently become 4-5 yard runs (or more) that's significant enough to have a dramatic impact on a game, and eventually a season. Leads to more first downs, more points, longer drives, more time on the field for the defense, etc etc.

                  The bottom line is this crew fubared this season when they traded Dareus and 'Well we didn't expect much anyway' doesn't mean ****. A team needs to be able to take advantage of opportunity when it presents itself...which it did this season...and their cockiness pissed it away more than anything.

                  Hopefully they are man enough at some point to acknowledge and learn from their mistakes...especially this one.

                  That was one mistake.

                  Then they threw good money after bad.

                  Tossed Dareus to the side and then aquired KB as if we were then in a win-now mode.

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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107443

                    #10
                    Re: Big Mistake

                    Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                    That was one mistake.

                    Then they threw good money after bad.

                    Tossed Dareus to the side and then aquired KB as if we were then in a win-now mode.
                    Not sure I'd be critical of the KB move right now. He's still on a rookie contract and is a guy who could realistically be here for 5-7 years.
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                    • justasportsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71614

                      #11
                      Re: Big Mistake

                      Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                      Not sure I'd be critical of the KB move right now. He's still on a rookie contract and is a guy who could realistically be here for 5-7 years.
                      if I were to guess, KB will be re signed but not Mathews.
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                      • sahlensguy
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2015
                        • 13479

                        #12
                        Re: Big Mistake

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                        Not sure I'd be critical of the KB move right now. He's still on a rookie contract and is a guy who could realistically be here for 5-7 years.
                        I wasn't critical against either the KB or Dareus moves per se. Together though they make no sense. Either we are rebuilding or we playing for a playoff spot. Each of these moves are for a different goal. OBD doesn't know what they want.

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                        • Albany,n.y.
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5599

                          #13
                          Re: Big Mistake

                          Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                          And in the remaining seven games?

                          I get the trade now if OBD didn't think we were going to make the playoffs anyway. But why then also trade other assets for Benjamin?

                          We just gave this asset away. Why?
                          They saved millions of $ in real money. Sometimes people get so caught up in cap $, they forget that trading a player gets rid of the dollars the team is paying him.

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                          • sahlensguy
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2015
                            • 13479

                            #14
                            Re: Big Mistake

                            Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
                            They saved millions of $ in real money. Sometimes people get so caught up in cap $, they forget that trading a player gets rid of the dollars the team is paying him.
                            Ok so Pegula saves some coin and we plan for the future to boot. Fair enough. Turning around and giving up picks for the short term benefit of KB does not sync with the Dareus move though.

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                            • Homegrown
                              Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 2774

                              #15
                              Re: Big Mistake

                              Getting rid of Dareus the way the Bills did was ridulous b/c:

                              A) there's no one the roster to replace him
                              B) they got zero value in return
                              C) they traded to a team that is in the AFC wild card race

                              Bunch of amateurs

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