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  • WG
    Drew and Sam stole all my hair
    • Jul 2002
    • 9450

    Recycling in the draft...

    I've heard some folks mention that if McGahee doesn't sign, he can "recycle" himself in next year's draft.

    I know I've asked before, and if someone answered, I apologize for not finding the response, but is that what will happen if he doesn't sign?

    I always thought that if terms couldn't be reached, that a player is the under the rights of the team that signed him.

    No?
    Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

    Then let's go to Disneyworld!

    GO BILLS!!!

  • EricStratton
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 20893

    #2
    A player can enter the next years draft, up until then his rights are owned by the team who drafted him.

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    • TedMock
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 3221

      #3
      beat me to it.

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      • Pride
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 10191

        #4
        Of course, McGahee needs to consider... who wants a RB who:

        1. Hasn't played in 2 years
        2. Never played a down in the NFL
        3. Has an agent like Drew R.

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        • HenryRules
          • Jul 2002
          • 2757

          #5
          I'm not faulting wys on this ... just a general statement about the board. I think that we're getting way ahead of ourselves on this. With an injured player like McGahee, there isn't the usual necessity/emphasis on both parts to have the player signed by camp - McGahee can't participate anyway (regardless of what Drew says).

          I wouldn't be suprised (nor concerned) if McGahee doesn't sign until after camp. At this time, Donahoe will have more time on his hands to devote to the negotiations and I think things will get done.

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          • TypicalBill
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 9061

            #6
            We have to sign him before a specific date in November .. if we dont, he can enter the 2004 draft and we wont be allowed to draft him.
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            • Pride
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 10191

              #7
              I am just afraid that if it takes too long, we may find ourselves in trouble. If Henry has fumbilitus (sp?) early on in the season, McGahee will have more bargining power.

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              • HenryRules
                • Jul 2002
                • 2757

                #8
                I believe the date in November is only so that he is eligible to play this season. We can still sign him after that, but won't be able to play him.

                I don't think it will go that long at all ... I think he'll sign (at the latest) 2 or 3 weeks after the season starts.

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                • TypicalBill
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 9061

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HenryRules
                  I believe the date in November is only so that he is eligible to play this season. We can still sign him after that, but won't be able to play him.
                  Not really, from what ive read... if we dont sign him by that date in November, he can enter the draft period..its not about playing him this year or not.

                  ill have to find a link to that article though
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                  • The Spaz
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 19066

                    #10
                    No he has to sign in November or else he can go back in the draft next year. If you remember the Chargers almost lost Quentin Jammer last year because of this.

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                    • TedMock
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3221

                      #11
                      He'll be signed before year end and I'm not that concerned. The longer he goes unsigned the longer he re-habs and stays away from pounding on it. That's fine with me.

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                      • HenryRules
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2757

                        #12
                        I don't know how accurate this calendar is ... but it only states that the rookie will not be eligible to play for the season ... no comment about losing the rights.

                        http://www.footballinjuries.com/calendar.htm (November 11)

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                        • TypicalBill
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 9061

                          #13
                          Yup, i guess we're both right..

                          Teams normally have until mid-November to sign draft picks or those players become ineligible to play for the remainder of the season.

                          An unsigned player can re-apply for next April’s draft.

                          A healthy McGahee, a Heisman finalist as a sophomore, could certainly boost his draft standing.



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                          • Bulldog
                            Top Dog
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2654

                            #14
                            I really don't think that TD will let a first round pick go unsigned allowing him to re-enter the draft. Espically after he worked so hard to get that pick from Atlanta for Price. As much as TD values draft picks, I would be really suprised if this happens.
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                            • Wys Guy
                              Drew and Sam stole all my hair
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 9450

                              #15
                              Thanks! BTW, I'm not overly concerned. I figure we'll sign him. But, you never know, if Henry plays well up front, McGahee and DR may start eyeing reality and seeing the dubious "starting RB situation" that's bound to exist next season and he may take his chances on getting drafted quite a bit higher next year therefore commanding bigger bucks. I don't think any of us would argue that if he "reenters" the draft next season, that he'd easiliy be i the top 10, and quite possibly among the top 5 as many predicted for this year had he not gotten injured. Teams like Cincy, Houston, N.E., Detroit, T.B., Jax, Skins, etal. may jump at the opp to get him.

                              So, while I wasn't thinking about all this when I asked the question as it was more a question of what McG's options were, I still see that perhaps it would in fact pay McGahee to wait, not sign unless he gets "top 5" bucks, and then reenter so that he does. If you think about it, I'm not really sure who has the leverage here. I'm leaning towards McGahee and if I were him, I'd think good and long about signing here if I could triple my contract and get twice or three times the bonus by waiting.

                              Originally posted by Pride
                              Of course, McGahee needs to consider... who wants a RB who:

                              1. Hasn't played in 2 years
                              2. Never played a down in the NFL
                              3. Has an agent like Drew R.
                              And one who's been significantly hurt in each of the last three season's he's played in!!!
                              Replace Donahoe with Modrak and fire the entire coaching staff!

                              Then let's go to Disneyworld!

                              GO BILLS!!!

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