Josh Allen injures throwing arm in loss to Jets [Archive] - BillsZone.com

Woodman

11-06-2022, 09:47 AM

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/11/6/23443775/josh-allen-injury-throwing-arm-jets-loss-bryce-hall

Will the Bills be forced to look to Case Keenum next week?

The Buffalo Bills (https://www.buffalorumblings.com/) suffered their second divisional loss as they fell to the New York Jets (https://www.ganggreennation.com/) 20-17 on Sunday, and almost as bad as the numbers on the scoreboard were the numbers on the Bills injury list.

While the Bills continued their season-long trend of piling up injuries on the defensive side of the ball, possibly the scariest injury was the one that came in the final seconds of the game.

Quarterback Josh Allen (https://www.nfl.com/players/josh-allen-4/) had his arm hit by the Jets’ Bryce Huff (https://www.nfl.com/players/bryce-huff) when he was attempting to throw the ball down field and lead the Bills on a comeback drive. With 1:17 left on the clock, Allen got ready to throw, but instead was sacked and fumbled the ball, which was ultimately recovered by Bills lineman Ryan Bates (https://www.nfl.com/players/ryan-bates).

YardRat

11-06-2022, 09:51 AM

The only experience I have with that SIC website is they tend to go right to the worst case scenario.

Novacane

11-06-2022, 09:56 AM

While the Bills don’t have any answers or information regarding the extent of the injury to their quarterback—who was an early favorite to win the league’s MVP honors this season—there is reason to be concerned that it could be an UCL strain or a posterior triceps injury.

:rolleyes: Based on what? Idiots looking for clicks. Please don't link that lame ass page.

swiper

11-06-2022, 10:03 AM

All I know is Quessenberry was the one that was responsible for Bryce Huff and he looked like a deer in the headlights as Huff ran right around him to Allen. PLEASE bring back Spencer Brown ASAP. I thought he practiced this week.

Woodman

11-06-2022, 10:04 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/06/josh-allen-slight-pain-in-right-elbow-after-late-sack/

Josh Allen says he has “slight pain” in right elbow

Bills quarterback Josh Allen was seen grabbing his right elbow after being sacked by Jets edge rusher Bryce Hall (https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60139/bryce-hall) on one of the final plays of Sunday’s 20-17 loss at MetLife Stadium and he was asked about his condition at his postgame press conference.

Allen said he was feeling “slight pain” in his elbow as the game came to an end and added that he will “work through it” as the Bills head toward a Week 10 game against the Vikings.

Allen was 18-of-34 for 205 yards and two interceptions in the loss and laid the blame for the loss at his own feet when he spoke to reporters.

“It’s tough to win in this league when you’re playing a good team and your quarterback plays like ****. Made some bad decisions tonight that really hurt our team,” Allen said.

jamze132

11-06-2022, 09:32 PM

I held my elbow like that after a horrible golf swing and I couldn’t swing a club for a couple months while the ligament healed…

TheConsigliere

11-06-2022, 09:43 PM

All I know is Quessenberry was the one that was responsible for Bryce Huff and he looked like a deer in the headlights as Huff ran right around him to Allen. PLEASE bring back Spencer Brown ASAP. I thought he practiced this week.

STOP it!!!

This OL is good enough.

Beane will just swing by Duff's around lunch time and pick up any fat slob eating there.

OL are all the same.

Prov401

11-06-2022, 09:52 PM

Definitely concerning. He grabbed his elbow right away after that 3rd down pass into the dirt. It was somewhat encouraging that he threw a bomb to Davis on the last play, but something for sure happened.

Skooby

11-06-2022, 10:05 PM

Lots of excuses, Gabe can’t catch right now is reality

TacklingDummy

11-07-2022, 12:19 AM

Hurt so bad he tossed the ball 70 yards in the air 2 plays later.

Woodman

11-07-2022, 01:39 AM

Lots of excuses, Gabe can’t catch right now is reality
I miss the Gabe we once had ..... hoping he can shake it off and get back to form.

Woodman

11-07-2022, 01:44 AM

Hurt so bad he tossed the ball 70 yards in the air 2 plays later.

He did hopefully he's alright.

I'm worried about our run defense.

The punt by Martin should have been taken advantage of ..... our defense was in great field position to put the hammer down and finish a poorly played game by us.

zone

11-07-2022, 01:52 AM

Lots of excuses, Gabe can’t catch right now is reality

Or McKenzie

Woodman

11-07-2022, 02:19 AM

Or McKenzie

Jet sweep that kid baby!

They had one really good one yesterday.

The last buffalo fan

11-07-2022, 02:34 AM

Jet sweep that kid baby!

They had one really good one yesterday.
Not good enough, I think that like ghz said, if it is not working try another play/player, it should be more time for the next guy on line. He is not the same player after the concusion and I really understand and respect that.

sahlensguy

11-07-2022, 02:44 AM

Not good enough, I think that like ghz said, if it is not working try another play/player, it should be more time for the next guy on line. He is not the same player after the concusion and I really understand and respect that.

I was all for getting OBJ last year when almost nobody else was and am ready to get him again now. Even though he can't suit up...

Sends the right message though.

Woodman

11-07-2022, 04:15 AM

Not good enough, I think that like ghz said, if it is not working try another play/player, it should be more time for the next guy on line. He is not the same player after the concusion and I really understand and respect that.

Maybe Hines? :cheers:

TacklingDummy

11-07-2022, 04:18 AM

I was all for getting OBJ last year when almost nobody else was and am ready to get him again now. Even though he can't suit up...

Sends the right message though.

I too wanted OBJ last year and this year.

I was looking for him to replace McKenzie but now it might be Davis that needs the replacing.

Woodman

11-07-2022, 05:28 AM

19593

I'm hoping not to have a knee jerk reaction about Gabe Davis, can you help doc?

Woodman

11-07-2022, 07:53 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/07/josh-allens-elbow-injury-is-something-to-monitor/

Late in Sunday’s loss to the Jets, Bills quarterback Josh Allen injured his elbow. It didn’t keep him from finishing the game, an effort that included uncorking a long pass to receiver Stefon Diggs (https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/9728/stefon-diggs). Still, it could keep Allen from fully participating in preparations for the next game.

It also could potentially keep him from playing.

Via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, Allen “likely” will be limited (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1589704644447477761?s=20&t=c3mIYVHyQE7F0Wnytsc3qg) in practice this week. It’s regarded, per Rapoport, as an injury to “monitor.” Allen is still undergoing tests.

The 6-2 Bills face the surprisingly 7-1 Vikings on Sunday. If Allen can’t play, Case Keenum (https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/2375/case-keenum) would take over.

CKeenum connected with Diggs on the last-ditch, postseason game-winning pass against the Saints in January 2018. It would be more than fitting for a Bizarro Minneapolis Miracle to play out in Buffalo, if Allen isn’t available.

YardRat

11-07-2022, 08:31 AM

McDermott said the 'reports' that Allen would be limited didn't come from anybody in the organization and is simply media speculation. He also wouldn't comment at all about Josh's arm and quite frankly didn't look comfortable even saying (basically) no comment. Not liking the vibes I got watching him.

Mace

11-07-2022, 08:37 AM

McDermott said the 'reports' that Allen would be limited didn't come from anybody in the organization and is simply media speculation. He also wouldn't comment at all about Josh's arm and quite frankly didn't look comfortable even saying (basically) no comment. Not liking the vibes I got watching him.

Looking doom in the face is not comfortable, even when it's a whisper of theoretical.

Woodman

11-07-2022, 09:44 AM

19593

I'm hoping not to have a knee jerk reaction about Gabe Davis, can you help doc?

19594

Woodman

11-07-2022, 09:55 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/07/report-josh-allen-being-evaluated-for-ulnar-collateral-ligament-injury/

Bills coach Sean McDermott said earlier Monday that doctors still are evaluating (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/07/sean-mcdermott-were-still-evaluating-josh-allens-elbow/) quarterback Josh Allen’s injured throwing elbow.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Allen’s elbow injury is to his ulnar collateral ligament and related nerves.

Allen’s status for Sunday’s game is uncertain, but he likely won’t have full practices this week.

The injury did not affect Allen’s arm strength Sunday.

His final pass, an incompletion to wide receiver Gabe Davis (https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/60126/gabe-davis), was the farthest pass thrown (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/07/sean-mcdermott-were-still-evaluating-josh-allens-elbow/) in the NFL the past six seasons.

paladin warrior

11-07-2022, 09:57 AM

Pls not too seriously and I hope not he is out of game vs Vikings.

imbondz

11-07-2022, 11:05 AM

Someone be encouraging and positive here cuz this is such depressing news. And I had a sh**y :madmad: day. Anyone?

Novacane

11-07-2022, 11:15 AM

Someone be encouraging and positive here cuz this is such depressing news. And I had a sh**y :madmad: day. Anyone?

I've got nothing.

sahlensguy

11-07-2022, 11:26 AM

I've got nothing.

Ditto.

Turf

11-07-2022, 11:34 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen is being evaluated for an injury to his "ulnar collateral ligament and related nerves," per <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mortreport</a>. <a href="https://t.co/eJjS9wshoq">pic.twitter.com/eJjS9wshoq</a></p>— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1589742098047459328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Forward_Lateral

11-07-2022, 11:41 AM

Seems about right.

We can’t have nice things

Woodman

11-07-2022, 12:23 PM

TacklingDummy

11-07-2022, 12:42 PM

Seems about right.

We can’t have nice things

It's always something. Every loss, every season. WTF can't it be us just once?

sahlensguy

11-07-2022, 12:45 PM

It's always something. Every loss, every season. WTF can't it be us just once?

The stars were all aligned for this year but then we blinked at the bi and we havent woken up since.

paladin warrior

11-07-2022, 02:16 PM

I think that it . And it over .Bill's will not make in a playoff without Josh Allen for long while . Back up QB is not good .

paladin warrior

11-07-2022, 02:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen is being evaluated for an injury to his "ulnar collateral ligament and related nerves," per <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mortreport</a>. <a href="https://t.co/eJjS9wshoq">pic.twitter.com/eJjS9wshoq</a></p>— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLonFOX/status/1589742098047459328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
😭😭

Woodman

11-07-2022, 02:50 PM

Someone be encouraging and positive here cuz this is such depressing news. And I had a sh**y :madmad: day. Anyone?

We got our best WR from the Vikings and you just know Diggs is going to play large.

There should be no problem getting up for the 7-1 Vikings!

TheConsigliere

11-07-2022, 05:51 PM

Someone be encouraging and positive here cuz this is such depressing news. And I had a sh**y :madmad: day. Anyone?

Well....Election Day should be entertaining while we await real news on Allen's alleged injury.

YardRat

11-07-2022, 10:11 PM

Hope for the best and a few weeks of rest of rehab. Hope it's not a tear and TJ surgery is the future he's facing, that would simply suck big time.

YardRat

11-07-2022, 10:35 PM

Here's another lesson they can learn from, and be better moving forward. This is why you don't take anybody lightly, why you maintain focus, why you make sure you beat the teams you are supposed to beat.

Sure would be nice to have wins against Miami and the Jets in the bag so we could feel better about resting him for a few weeks to get 100% healthy for the playoffs.

Forward_Lateral

11-07-2022, 10:47 PM

Hope for the best and a few weeks of rest of rehab. Hope it's not a tear and TJ surgery is the future he's facing, that would simply suck big time.

Remember he had this a few years ago. If it's torn, does he actually need TJ? I thought they said back then, that the football throwing motion doesn't really require a UCL, but maybe I was dreaming

YardRat

11-07-2022, 11:02 PM

I'm certainly not a doctor, but I think a UCL is directly related to any throwing motion.

YardRat

11-07-2022, 11:05 PM

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...t-ucl-injuries (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22760-ulnar-collateral-ligament-ucl-injuries)

Nonsurgical UCL injury treatments include:

Rest.
Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), such as ibuprofen (Advil®, Motrin®) and naproxen (Aleve®). Ask your provider about a prescription-strength NSAID if you need it.
Ice. Apply ice to your elbow daily to reduce pain and swelling.
Physical therapy. Begin physical therapy to strengthen the muscles around your elbow.
Injections of platelet-rich plasma (PRP). A small amount of your own blood is withdrawn and your platelets are separated from other blood components. The platelets are injected into the area of your injury. Injections of PRP may be helpful in those with a partial UCL tear.

Surgical treatments include:

UCL direct repair. If a single traumatic event caused your UCL ligament to pull off the bone, it may be possible to reattach it.
UCL reconstruction (Tommy John Surgery). If you have an unstable or torn UCL and nonsurgical treatments don’t provide pain relief or if you’re an athlete and want to continue throwing or engage in other strenuous overhead arm movements, your provider will recommend UCL reconstruction.

With this surgery, your surgeon takes a tendon from another area of your body or a donor. The tendon is attached to the ulna and humerus to act as the new UCL. The remaining parts of the original UCL may be attached to the new graft to strengthen it.

The goal of surgery is to restore elbow stability and range of motion, improve elbow strength and relieve pain.

How long does recovery take after an ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) injury?

Without surgery:

Recovery can take several weeks to several months if you have a UCL tear. Your recovery length depends on how much range of motion you wish to regain.

With UCL reconstruction:

Recovery can take nine months to a year or longer. You’ll wear a hinged brace to slowly increase your range of motion. If you plan to return to rigorous throwing activities, you’ll need a personalized physical therapy and pain management program to strengthen your elbow and improve your range of motion and function.

Forward_Lateral

11-07-2022, 11:09 PM

I guess we wait and find out more today.

BuffaloBlitz83

11-07-2022, 11:10 PM

Praying it's a mild sprain and they can use pain relief. This is an important game. It will be hard to beat Minnesota with a backup. Plus I was headed to Buffalo for the game!

Novacane

11-07-2022, 11:37 PM

We got our best WR from the Vikings and you just know Diggs is going to play large.

There should be no problem getting up for the 7-1 Vikings!

Is Diggs going to throw to himself? Case sucks.

Novacane

11-07-2022, 11:39 PM

It will be interesting to see what Josh has to say on Kyle Brandts basement today.

sukie

11-08-2022, 12:12 AM

Is Diggs going to throw to himself? Case sucks.
Like your chances better with Barkles?

Forward_Lateral

11-08-2022, 12:29 AM

Is Diggs going to throw to himself? Case sucks.
Case is serviceable. He protects the ball, and completes 60-65% of his passes. They could do a lot worse. Obviously it's not ideal, but he is one of the better backups in the NFL.

Woodman

11-08-2022, 12:56 AM

Is Diggs going to throw to himself? Case sucks.

Frank Reich suddenly became available. :idunno:

BuffaloBlitz83

11-08-2022, 03:43 AM

Wonder if he still goes on this week

Novacane

11-08-2022, 03:44 AM

Like your chances better with Barkles?

Definitely not!

Turf

11-08-2022, 04:15 AM

Bring Fitzy back if Josh is out.

POTLAND PSILBYLO

11-08-2022, 05:15 AM

Move Allen to Fullback.

ghz in pittsburgh

11-08-2022, 05:53 AM

What? No news about Allen have his arm amputated yet?

Forward_Lateral

11-08-2022, 06:03 AM

What? No news about Allen have his arm amputated yet?

Patiently waiting

I've checked about 400 times today

Novacane

11-08-2022, 06:05 AM

What? No news about Allen have his arm amputated yet?

He's annoucing his retirement at 5.

BuffaloBlitz83

11-08-2022, 06:29 AM

He's annoucing his retirement at 5.

Mike Garafolo on NFL Network: There's hope in Buffalo Josh Allen will be able to practice and play his way through this injury.

Also said we can relax on the Tommy John surgery

BuffaloBlitz83

11-08-2022, 06:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxg1wXu6zOqtsMO7w9JbITAEssrjI6RjOj

sukie

11-08-2022, 07:23 AM

Mike Garafolo on NFL Network: There's hope in Buffalo Josh Allen will be able to practice and play his way through this injury.

Also said we can relax on the Tommy John surgery

Arm strength improves after Tommy John surgery… can you imagine?

Saratoga Slim

11-08-2022, 08:41 AM

Arm strength improves after Tommy John surgery… can you imagine?

yikes! We'd have to carry 12 receivers to allow for all the broken hands

Woodman

11-08-2022, 09:25 AM

Patiently waiting

I've checked about 400 times today

If we'd all admit it ..... we all have checked in a ton.

Woodman

11-08-2022, 09:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkxg1wXu6zOqtsMO7w9JbITAEssrjI6RjOj

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Cali512

11-08-2022, 10:30 AM

YardRat

11-08-2022, 12:09 PM

Forward_Lateral

11-08-2022, 01:13 PM

Woodman

11-08-2022, 03:09 PM

What worries me is if he passed all his test, it would be posted. It seems like they are looking for a second opinion
Vikings are preparing for Josh 100% that I can tell you.

Does he play that I can't tell you.

If he doesn't Case gets a crack at his old team.

:gobills:

imbondz

11-08-2022, 10:54 PM

If we'd all admit it ..... we all have checked in a ton.

Not me. I’m in denial.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 12:52 AM

What worries me is if he passed all his test, it would be posted. It seems like they are looking for a second opinion
They should get as many opinions as necessary. Not always a bad thing to get a second opinion, especially when dealing with your $200 million QB

ghz in pittsburgh

11-09-2022, 01:03 AM

Would sitting him this week a really bad idea? #1, Allen is the franchise; you do everything to make him healthy, not just now but long term as well. #2, Allen is in a funk lately; it may do good for him to reflect, like in his rookie year, came back from injury a different player. #3, it may force Dorsey to devise plans more diverse, using everyone instead of just Allen to Diggs, a kind of forcing everyone to step up.

The downside, of course, is the Bills may lose the home field advantage with KC breathing down their neck.

You have to say, Allen's health trumps everything.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 02:02 AM

Would sitting him this week a really bad idea? #1, Allen is the franchise; you do everything to make him healthy, not just now but long term as well. #2, Allen is in a funk lately; it may do good for him to reflect, like in his rookie year, came back from injury a different player. #3, it may force Dorsey to devise plans more diverse, using everyone instead of just Allen to Diggs, a kind of forcing everyone to step up.

The downside, of course, is the Bills may lose the home field advantage with KC breathing down their neck.

You have to say, Allen's health trumps everything.

And this is where the loss to the Jets really hurts. If we had won, we'd be 7-1, Miami would be 6-3 and the Jets would be 5-4. If that were the situation, I'd say definitely sit him for a non-conf game. Instead, we're 6-2, and both Miami and the Jets are just a half game behind us at 6-3 AND have head to head tiebreakers. We really can't afford another loss.

The Jets are idle this week but there's a good chance Miami wins against the browns. If we lose and they win, they'll be 7-3 and we'll be 6-3, plus they have the head to head. It's a really bad situation.

TacklingDummy

11-09-2022, 02:36 AM

Would be 8-0 if Davis could catch.

Woodman

11-09-2022, 02:43 AM

Would be 8-0 if Davis could catch.

Agreed :cheers:

90 offensive plays against the Dolphins and we managed to lose.

Did you hear it was hot as hell on our sideline.

Woodman

11-09-2022, 02:50 AM

And this is where the loss to the Jets really hurts. If we had won, we'd be 7-1, Miami would be 6-3 and the Jets would be 5-4. If that were the situation, I'd say definitely sit him for a non-conf game. Instead, we're 6-2, and both Miami and the Jets are just a half game behind us at 6-3 AND have head to head tiebreakers. We really can't afford another loss.

The Jets are idle this week but there's a good chance Miami wins against the browns. If we lose and they win, they'll be 7-3 and we'll be 6-3, plus they have the head to head. It's a really bad situation.
Favorite means nothing that's proven every week.

Just a bad game to lose but we must go to and win the next one.

We play them again and that will be our opportunity.

The Jets will lose more games this season ...... that's why you look at it when it's all said and done.

Rough week but football is not for pussies or crybabies.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 03:04 AM

And this is where the loss to the Jets really hurts. If we had won, we'd be 7-1, Miami would be 6-3 and the Jets would be 5-4. If that were the situation, I'd say definitely sit him for a non-conf game. Instead, we're 6-2, and both Miami and the Jets are just a half game behind us at 6-3 AND have head to head tiebreakers. We really can't afford another loss.

The Jets are idle this week but there's a good chance Miami wins against the browns. If we lose and they win, they'll be 7-3 and we'll be 6-3, plus they have the head to head. It's a really bad situation.
I wouldn't call it a bad situation yet.

If Josh's injury is serious, and causes him to miss more than a few games, then it might be. Right now, they are still in 1st in both the AFCE and the AFC. Let's just take this a week at a time, and hope Josh is OK

Saratoga Slim

11-09-2022, 04:01 AM

I'll be shocked if it's a major, season-ending or lots of games out injury. He just wasn't acting like that in the press conference, and did throw the ball air 69.3 yards after the hit. Pure speculation, but just feels that way.

Most likely it'll be a day-to-day/week-to-week thing where no one will really know how much it's actually bothering him, and whether he'll be playing.

ghz in pittsburgh

11-09-2022, 04:35 AM

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills HC Sean McDermott said QB Josh Allen will not practice Wednesday.</p>— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1590390065980903425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ghz in pittsburgh

11-09-2022, 04:36 AM

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills HC Sean McDermott is refusing to shed any additional light on Josh Allen's injury, status or the medical evaluation of his elbow.<br><br>At one point, McDermott said he's "not going to answer any more questions about Josh."</p>— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1590390766928527360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills HC Sean McDermott "We believe in Case Keenum. He's here for a reason."</p>— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1590390921052708865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Turf

11-09-2022, 04:39 AM

Make the rest of the team and coaches actually win a game. It would be good for them to step up.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 04:42 AM

I wouldn't call it a bad situation yet.

If Josh's injury is serious, and causes him to miss more than a few games, then it might be. Right now, they are still in 1st in both the AFCE and the AFC. Let's just take this a week at a time, and hope Josh is OK

If we lose and Miami wins, we are a half game and a head to head tiebreaker behind them, and we'll have the same record as the Jets, but they have the head to head tiebreaker too.

We will be 3rd in the AFCE and just one game ahead of the Patriots, who are idle.

And in order to avoid that, we need to beat a 7-1 team without our starting QB and with our entire defensive backfield injured.

If that's not "bad", I don't know what is.

ghz in pittsburgh

11-09-2022, 04:48 AM

One more day. If Josh is not practicing tomorrow, then it is a sure thing Keenum will start.

It is back to the days prior to 2019: we expect the D to play great and the QB to not lose the game, especially against a 7-1 opponent. Keep it close to the end and make a play to win the game.

sahlensguy

11-09-2022, 04:57 AM

He'll play. Make Minny think about it though.

notacon

11-09-2022, 04:59 AM

I wouldn't call it a bad situation yet.

If Josh's injury is serious, and causes him to miss more than a few games, then it might be. Right now, they are still in 1st in both the AFCE and the AFC. Let's just take this a week at a time, and hope Josh is OK

I’m with you. This is not a “bad situation”....yet. The really “bad situation” is a season ending injury to Josh. This one is not that.

Even if Josh misses a few games, the Bills will probably still win the AFC East and will still be in the driver’s seat to get the big regular season prize....#1 seed and home field thought the playoffs.

If Josh does not play this week, the Bills STILL win. Teams have a knack of circling the wagons when the going gets tough. Case Keenum does not have to play like Allen.

In fact, I believe that it would help the Bills offense with a game or two with Keenum. It would force the Bills to have a running game....highlight the short passing game and being patient on offense.....one of the negative issues of Josh is that he just is not patient enough.

And the Bills defense, especially with Von Miller are going to have a LOT say in the outcome of the games.

A raucous home crowd in a big game....it would be a surprise if they lose no matter who is at QB.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 05:12 AM

I’m with you. This is not a “bad situation”....yet. The really “bad situation” is a season ending injury to Josh. This one is not that.

Even if Josh misses a few games, the Bills will probably still win the AFC East and will still be in the driver’s seat to get the big regular season prize....#1 seed and home field thought the playoffs.

If Josh does not play this week, the Bills STILL win. Teams have a knack of circling the wagons when the going gets tough. Case Keenum does not have to play like Allen.

In fact, I believe that it would help the Bills offense with a game or two with Keenum. It would force the Bills to have a running game....highlight the short passing game and being patient on offense.....one of the negative issues of Josh is that he just is not patient enough.

And the Bills defense, especially with Von Miller are going to have a LOT say in the outcome of the games.

A raucous home crowd in a big game....it would be a surprise if they lose no matter who is at QB.

Lmao, no starting QB, EDGE rusher hurt, entire defensive backfield hurt and we're gonna beat a 7-1 team? Not gonna happen. We're going to be 3rd in the AFCE by 4:30 on Sunday.

notacon

11-09-2022, 05:14 AM

BTW....the AFC East race from 10,000’.

Miami can easily lose vs Cleveland. They just beat up on Cincy and they have the running game to flatten the Fins’.

And Miami’s defense is not as good as last year. They hover around mediocre to below average.

After their bye and the Houston game, they have a brutal three game stretch....@San Fran, @ LA Chargers, @Bufflao. They could easily go 0-3 or 1-2 in those games. The Bills WILL beat Miami at home.

After their bye weeks, the Jets at NE will be a huge game. No matter what, it helps the Bills. NE then has to go into Minny and vs Buffalo on Thursday night. The Bills WILL beat NE.

I really think that NE has the Jets' number, and Belichick devours young, stupid QB’s. Zack Wilson is a young stupid QB (right now). It will be a tough game vs Chicago, although they probably win that at home.

Next up are two very difficult road games @Minny and @Buffalo.

Revenge will be on the minds of every Bills player and when the Jets will be on their back after the Bills beat them and put a big hurt on their playoff hopes. Wilson is just not ready for prime time....yet.

Despite the hand wringing of some cynics, the AFC East Crown is going to end up in Buffalo for the third year in a row.

notacon

11-09-2022, 05:26 AM

Lmao, no starting QB, EDGE rusher hurt, entire defensive backfield hurt and we're gonna beat a 7-1 team? Not gonna happen. We're going to be 3rd in the AFCE by 4:30 on Sunday.

The only way you get there (“not gonna happen”) is by ignoring your own criteria that you have been using to bludgeon us over the head for several years. The 7-1 record of Minny is cream puff soft. They are posers.

They have only beat one team with a (present) winning record. Miami vs their backup QB.

Even against the weak teams, they have been very close games needed to come back from slow starts. And five of those wins vs not so good teams (Green Bay, Detroit, New Orleans, Chicago and Arizona) were at home.

They got their ass beat by the only really good team they have played....on the road vs Philly.

This past week they barely won with a furious 4th Q comeback against a well below average Washington team.

The Bills BEAT Minny. And the Bills retain the lead on the AFC East AND the #1 seed in the AFC by 4:30 on Sunday.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 05:30 AM

If we lose and Miami wins, we are a half game and a head to head tiebreaker behind them, and we'll have the same record as the Jets, but they have the head to head tiebreaker too.

We will be 3rd in the AFCE and just one game ahead of the Patriots, who are idle.

And in order to avoid that, we need to beat a 7-1 team without our starting QB and with our entire defensive backfield injured.

If that's not "bad", I don't know what is.
Bad would be sitting at 3-6.

Give it a rest already. God, it's like you are happy that bad things happen to this team.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 05:31 AM

Lmao, no starting QB, EDGE rusher hurt, entire defensive backfield hurt and we're gonna beat a 7-1 team? Not gonna happen. We're going to be 3rd in the AFCE by 4:30 on Sunday.
Go

Away.

Your act is tired. You are the worst kind of bandwagon fan in existence.

If they won the superbowl, I'm pretty sure you'd find a way to complain about it.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 05:35 AM

Go

Away.

Your act is tired. You are the worst kind of bandwagon fan in existence.

If they won the superbowl, I'm pretty sure you'd find a way to complain about it.

What "act"? We are playing a good team and we have a ton of injuries. The Jets and Fish are right on our heels. A loss puts us behind the Jets and may or may not put us behind the Fish depending on the outcome of their game.

Those are undeniable facts. You can pretend that's not the case, but it is. You can pretend it's not bad, but it is. Our hold on the div lead is extremely tenuous.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 05:38 AM

The only way you get there (“not gonna happen”) is by ignoring your own criteria that you have been using to bludgeon us over the head for several years. The 7-1 record of Minny is cream puff soft. They are posers.

They have only beat one team with a (present) winning record. Miami vs their backup QB.

Even against the weak teams, they have been very close games needed to come back from slow starts. And five of those wins vs not so good teams (Green Bay, Detroit, New Orleans, Chicago and Arizona) were at home.

They got their ass beat by the only really good team they have played....on the road vs Philly.

This past week they barely won with a furious 4th Q comeback against a well below average Washington team.

The Bills BEAT Minny. And the Bills retain the lead on the AFC East AND the #1 seed in the AFC by 4:30 on Sunday.

That's funny. When the Bills have had a good record by only beating bad teams and I pointed that out, you accused me of "disparaging" them and "not being a real fan." But when the Bills play an opponent who you claim has only beaten bad teams, suddenly, it's perfectly ok to use the "they're not good because they only beat bad teams" logic.

The Bills have played like **** the last 6 quarters and they are beat up with injuries. You're being delusional.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 05:40 AM

What "act"? We are playing a good team and we have a ton of injuries. The Jets and Fish are right on our heels. A loss puts us behind the Jets and may or may not put us behind the Fish depending on the outcome of their game.

Those are undeniable facts. You can pretend that's not the case, but it is. You can pretend it's not bad, but it is. Our hold on the div lead is extremely tenuous.
They are 6-2. There's 9 games left.

You act as though them losing and falling out of first would be the end of the God Damn world.

Joe Fo Sho

11-09-2022, 05:42 AM

Lmao, no starting QB, EDGE rusher hurt, entire defensive backfield hurt and we're gonna beat a 7-1 team? Not gonna happen. We're going to be 3rd in the AFCE by 4:30 on Sunday.

This statement alone makes me more confident in this weeks game.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 05:44 AM

They are 6-2. There's 9 games left.

You act as though them losing and falling out of first would be the end of the God Damn world.

It would mean that we're in a dogfight for the division with all 3 other teams, halfway through the season, with a ton of injuries. Yeah, that's bad. How do you not see that?

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 05:49 AM

It would mean that we're in a dogfight for the division with all 3 other teams, halfway through the season, with a ton of injuries. Yeah, that's bad. How do you not see that?

God you must be a ****ing treat in real life.

notacon

11-09-2022, 06:13 AM

That's funny. When the Bills have had a good record by only beating bad teams and I pointed that out, you accused me of "disparaging" them and "not being a real fan." But when the Bills play an opponent who you claim has only beaten bad teams, suddenly, it's perfectly ok to use the "they're not good because they only beat bad teams" logic.

The Bills have played like **** the last 6 quarters and they are beat up with injuries. You're being delusional.

Except your criteria of “bad teams”, especially in 2020, was WAY off base. When the Bills DID beat IN REALITY “good team” you poo-poo’d it and all of a sudden they were no longer consider "good” by you....and only you.

You predicted a 8-8 season in 2020. I hit it spot on at 13-3.

You’re predicted a 2-5 start to this year.....I predicted 5-2. The Bills went 6-1.

The one that is “delusional” is YOU. You just can't get over your deep, deep PSTD and just can’t stand that the Bills have had very good TEAMS the past three years.

Yes, you abspultey ARE a “bad fan” and you keep on proving it time and time and time and time and time again.

notacon

11-09-2022, 06:15 AM

What "act"? We are playing a good team and we have a ton of injuries. The Jets and Fish are right on our heels. A loss puts us behind the Jets and may or may not put us behind the Fish depending on the outcome of their game.

Those are undeniable facts. You can pretend that's not the case, but it is. You can pretend it's not bad, but it is. Our hold on the div lead is extremely tenuous.

The backtracking continues. Just a day or so ago, you said the Vikings are an “elite” team (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy…?p=4974125&viewfull=1#post4974125). Now you downgraded them as simply “good”. :rolleyes:

Kaziganth

11-09-2022, 06:20 AM

Latest from McDermott today (Wed):

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/qb-josh-allen-elbow-listed-day-to-day-as-bills-begin-practice-sean-mcdermott-say

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 06:29 AM

Except your criteria of “bad teams”, especially in 2020, was WAY off base. When the Bills DID beat IN REALITY “good team” you poo-poo’d it and all of a sudden they were no longer consider "good” by you....and only you.

You predicted a 8-8 season in 2020. I hit it spot on at 13-3.

You’re predicted a 2-5 start to this year.....I predicted 5-2. The Bills went 6-1.

The one that is “delusional” is YOU. You just can't get over your deep, deep PSTD and just can’t stand that the Bills have had very good TEAMS the past three years.

Yes, you abspultey ARE a “bad fan” and you keep on proving it time and time and time and time and time again.

you're the one who always tells me the past doesn't matter. Once again, these are the FACTS:

We are playing a good team and we have a ton of injuries. The Jets and Fish are right on our heels. A loss puts us behind the Jets and may or may not put us behind the Fish depending on the outcome of their game.

That's reality, plain and simple.

- - - Updated - - -

The backtracking continues. Just a day or so ago, you said the Vikings are an “elite” team (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy…?p=4974125&viewfull=1#post4974125). Now you downgraded them as simply “good”. :rolleyes:

sorry if I'm inconsistent with how I describe a 7-1 team :rolleyes:. You're really nitpicking now.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 06:30 AM

Latest from McDermott today (Wed):

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/qb-josh-allen-elbow-listed-day-to-day-as-bills-begin-practice-sean-mcdermott-say

pretty obvious what's going on here. McD knows Josh is out but he's creating enough ambiguity that the Vikings will still need to prepare for him.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 06:36 AM

pretty obvious what's going on here. McD knows Josh is out but he's creating enough ambiguity that the Vikings will still need to prepare for him.

How on earth did you get that from that?

He literally said, he's day to day.

I didn't know you could read minds now, as well as predict future outcomes of seasons.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 06:40 AM

How on earth did you get that from that?

He literally said, he's day to day.

I didn't know you could read minds now, as well as predict future outcomes of seasons.
Read minds? No. Josh didn't practice on Wed, which is the day when the O for the upcoming opponent is usually installed. Officially he's day to day, because he wants Minny to have to prepare for him, but McD also talked up Keenum in his press conference. It's really not difficult to deduce what he's doing.

Some of you seem to suffer from this delusion that coaches and GM's say everything that they know to the media. They do not.

notacon

11-09-2022, 06:40 AM

They are 6-2. There's 9 games left.

You act as though them losing and falling out of first would be the end of the God Damn world.

Unfortunately, the old posts are gone, but my memory is very clear on what Opi (and others) said last year after the Bills rough patch after losing the hurricane game vs NE and then Tampa Bay.

I reminded Opi of that reality in another thread (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy…?p=4974207&viewfull=1#post4974207)...it bears repeating here....

The "division is up for grabs "now” but not for long. The EXACT same thing was said last year when the Pats beat the Bills in Buffalo for their seventh win in a row improving to 9-4, with the Bills losing the next game to TB (while NE was on bye) dropping to 7-6 record.

I told you then that the Bills would win out...which they did...and that they would revenge their loss to NE on the road....which they did by beating NE solidly with ZERO punts.. With an even more bitter, historic ass beating of the Pats in the playoffs coming later. Which you doubted both would happen.

Yeah....too many people were saying ’what's wrong with Buffalo’ and that the ‘Pats might just make it to the SB’. and ’the AFC East division is up for grabs’ with ’the Pats are in the driver’s seat’. http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy%E2%80%A6/images/smilies/rofl.gif Wrong!!!!

It took several games to come out of their mid-season funk last year, losing 4 out of 6 starting with JAX.

It is not going to take that long to snap out of it THIS year. It would not surprise me (or anyone else) if the Bills obliterate the (present) 7.5 spread and beat Minny by much more.

Yeah....too many so-called “fans” buried the Bills after the TB loss. After they fell behind in the AFC race by TWO+ (Pats held the tie breaker) GAMES.

“Fans” like Opi scoffed at the idea that the Bills would win out. They scoffed at the idea that the Bills would go into NE and beat Belichick and the Pats.

We are seeing the same kind of negativity and unrealistic cynicism now. Despite the fact that the TEAM is better than last year. And they have shown that they CAN and HAVE overcome mayn, many injuries.

This team is deep and able to show exactly who they are....an elite team that has all the ability to meet challenges and adversity.

notacon

11-09-2022, 06:43 AM

How on earth did you get that from that?

He literally said, he's day to day.

I didn't know you could read minds now, as well as predict future outcomes of seasons.

Just remember....if Opi predicts something, the chances of it NOT happening are over 90%.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 06:45 AM

Unfortunately, the old posts are gone, but my memory is very clear on what Opi (and others) said last year after the Bills rough patch after losing the hurricane game vs NE and then Tampa Bay.

I reminded Opi of that reality in another thread (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy…?p=4974207&viewfull=1#post4974207)...it bears repeating here....

The "division is up for grabs "now” but not for long. The EXACT same thing was said last year when the Pats beat the Bills in Buffalo for their seventh win in a row improving to 9-4, with the Bills losing the next game to TB (while NE was on bye) dropping to 7-6 record.

I told you then that the Bills would win out...which they did...and that they would revenge their loss to NE on the road....which they did by beating NE solidly with ZERO punts.. With an even more bitter, historic ass beating of the Pats in the playoffs coming later. Which you doubted both would happen.

Yeah....too many people were saying ’what's wrong with Buffalo’ and that the ‘Pats might just make it to the SB’. and ’the AFC East division is up for grabs’ with ’the Pats are in the driver’s seat’. http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261536-Bills-remaining-schedule-is-easy%E2%80%A6/images/smilies/rofl.gif Wrong!!!!

It took several games to come out of their mid-season funk last year, losing 4 out of 6 starting with JAX.

It is not going to take that long to snap out of it THIS year. It would not surprise me (or anyone else) if the Bills obliterate the (present) 7.5 spread and beat Minny by much more.

Yeah....too many so-called “fans” buried the Bills after the TB loss. After they fell behind in the AFC race by TWO+ (Pats held the tie breaker) GAMES.

“Fans” like Opi scoffed at the idea that the Bills would win out. They scoffed at the idea that the Bills would go into NE and beat Belichick and the Pats.

We are seeing the same kind of negativity and unrealistic cynicism now. Despite the fact that the TEAM is better than last year. And they have shown that they CAN and HAVE overcome mayn, many injuries.

This team is deep and able to show exactly who they are....an elite team that has all the ability to meet challenges and adversity.

But but but....the past doesn't matter!

And the team STARTED looking better than they were last year. They haven't looked it at all over the last 6 quarters. And, even if they are better than last year, it doesn't matter when all the players that make us better are injured.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 07:12 AM

Read minds? No. Josh didn't practice on Wed, which is the day when the O for the upcoming opponent is usually installed. Officially he's day to day, because he wants Minny to have to prepare for him, but McD also talked up Keenum in his press conference. It's really not difficult to deduce what he's doing.

Some of you seem to suffer from this delusion that coaches and GM's say everything that they know to the media. They do not.

Are you stupid?

What McDermott said today neither confirmed or denied that Josh would be able to play. You think that because he didn't practice on Wed he automatically won't play?

Of course he's going to talk up Keenum, what did you expect him to say "God we hope Josh can play because Case really stinks".

Will Josh play? Nobody knows at this point, and you certainly can't deduce anything other than that from what McD said.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 07:26 AM

Are you stupid?

What McDermott said today neither confirmed or denied that Josh would be able to play. You think that because he didn't practice on Wed he automatically won't play?

Of course he's going to talk up Keenum, what did you expect him to say "God we hope Josh can play because Case really stinks".

Will Josh play? Nobody knows at this point, and you certainly can't deduce anything other than that from what McD said.

Am I stupid? No.

What's stupid is not realizing that McD is not going to tell everything he knows to the media. If McD knows 100% that Josh is out, he is NOT going to say that on Wed. But everything else he's doing and saying is what he would do and say if Josh were out. Why mention Keenum at all if there was still a chance that he isn't going to play? Doesn't make sense.

Forward_Lateral

11-09-2022, 07:28 AM

Am I stupid? No.

What's stupid is not realizing that McD is not going to tell everything he knows to the media. If McD knows 100% that Josh is out, he is NOT going to say that on Wed. But everything else he's doing and saying is what he would do and say if Josh were out. Why mention Keenum at all if there was still a chance that he isn't going to play? Doesn't make sense.
BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED HIM ABOUT KEENUM

Jesus Christ almighty, at least watch the entire video before commenting based off of what douchebag Joe B just clipped from it.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 07:36 AM

BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED HIM ABOUT KEENUM

Jesus Christ almighty, at least watch the entire video before commenting based off of what douchebag Joe B just clipped from it.

Fair enough.

Still, Josh not practicing is a bad sign.

sukie

11-09-2022, 09:03 AM

Fair enough.

Still, Josh not practicing is a bad sign.

On Wednesday? It’s just a sign neither good nor bad at this point. Even if elbo felt fine I’d shelve him today on the side of more healing

Saratoga Slim

11-09-2022, 09:24 AM

If there was something seriously wrong (like a more than a 1-2 week absence), it would be a clear diagnosis and we'd know about it.

I'm not freaking out about one game, this stuff happens. Dak missed like 6 games and the Cowboys did fine with some random dude under center.

There are 9 to play, and you know the Dolphins and Jets will crap more than a couple beds. Plus we play them both at home. Can't wait to see Tua throw into the December wind off Lake Erie.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 09:42 AM

If there was something seriously wrong (like a more than a 1-2 week absence), it would be a clear diagnosis and we'd know about it.

I'm not freaking out about one game, this stuff happens. Dak missed like 6 games and the Cowboys did fine with some random dude under center.

There are 9 to play, and you know the Dolphins and Jets will crap more than a couple beds. Plus we play them both at home. Can't wait to see Tua throw into the December wind off Lake Erie.

Yeah, I keep hearing about how the Fish and Jets aren’t really that good, but they keep winning and keep beating us.

Woodman

11-09-2022, 11:47 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/09/josh-allen-officially-listed-as-dnp-on-wednesday/

Josh Allen officially listed as DNP on Wednesday
The Bills have released their practice report for Wednesday, and quarterback Josh Allen officially was a non-participant.
Bills coach Sean McDermott announced before practice that Allen would spend the day rehabbing. McDermott calls Allen “day to day.”

YardRat

11-09-2022, 11:56 AM

If we lose and Miami wins, we are a half game and a head to head tiebreaker behind them, and we'll have the same record as the Jets, but they have the head to head tiebreaker too.

We will be 3rd in the AFCE and just one game ahead of the Patriots, who are idle.

And in order to avoid that, we need to beat a 7-1 team without our starting QB and with our entire defensive backfield injured.

If that's not "bad", I don't know what is.

Being 2-6, already 5 games behind the division leading Patriots, not having a franchise QB and dismissing even the most optimistic hope for the playoffs in favor of scouting more college ball wondering who our top 10 pick is going to be in next years draft.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 12:00 PM

Being 2-6, already 5 games behind the division leading Patriots, not having a franchise QB and dismissing even the most optimistic hope for the playoffs in favor of scouting more college ball wondering who our top 10 pick is going to be in next years draft.

Well according to everyone else, we are the best team in the league and the SB favorites. Meanwhile, the reality is that we are in a dogfight for the Div. When the expectations are high, the standard for “bad” changes.

Mace

11-09-2022, 12:10 PM

There's something real simple and basic here without editorial. They need to protect Josh Allen like he's as as important as we know he is.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 12:28 PM

There's something real simple and basic here without editorial. They need to protect Josh Allen like he's as as important as we know he is.

It’s not going to matter if we end up third in the Div.

Woodman

11-09-2022, 12:42 PM

It’s not going to matter if we end up third in the Div.

7 teams make the playoffs from each conference ..... 3rd place in the AFC East would qualify today.

East has Bills, Jets and Dolphins.

South has Titans that's it.

North has Ravens that's it.

West has Chiefs and Chargers.

All teams have 3 losses or less.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 12:56 PM

7 teams make the playoffs from each conference ..... 3rd place in the AFC East would qualify today.

East has Bills, Jets and Dolphins.

South has Titans that's it.

North has Ravens that's it.

West has Chiefs and Chargers.

All teams have 3 losses or less.
And if we don’t win the Div, we will most likely be on the road for the whole playoffs. That means the only path to the SB is beating 3 of those teams on the road, consecutively. Not going to happen. This is not a SB team. .

Woodman

11-09-2022, 01:01 PM

And if we don’t win the Div, we will most likely be on the road for the whole playoffs. That means the only path to the SB is beating 3 of those teams on the road, consecutively. Not going to happen. This is not a SB team. .

You're entitled to think that ..... where was it that we beat the Chiefs and please remind me where we beat the Ravens.

TacklingDummy

11-09-2022, 01:11 PM

Well they did beat the Rams, Ravens, and Chiefs on the road this year.

I think people by too much into this home field advantage crap.

OpIv37

11-09-2022, 02:04 PM

Well they did beat the Rams, Ravens, and Chiefs on the road this year.

I think people by too much into this home field advantage crap.
Except that we are supposedly better than the Jets and Fish but they both beat us in their house.

TacklingDummy

11-09-2022, 02:08 PM

Except that we are supposedly better than the Jets and Fish but they both beat us in their house.

So what. Only 2 teams have had undefeated regular seasons.

We are better than both of those teams. Only reason they won is because Buffalo beat themselves.

sahlensguy

11-09-2022, 02:16 PM

So what. Only 2 teams have had undefeated regular seasons.

We are better than both of those teams. Only reason they won is because Buffalo beat themselves.

Our Achilles heel...

YardRat

11-09-2022, 11:20 PM

So what. Only 2 teams have had undefeated regular seasons.

We are better than both of those teams. Only reason they won is because Buffalo beat themselves.

That's a pretty big lesson that they continue to not learn from, and get better about it moving forward.

DraftBoy

11-10-2022, 12:44 AM

I think McDermott could use some more PR training. It just looks dumb to act like reports of him being injured one day are made up to then officially list him as day to day the next.

I mean come on man, we all saw the injury happen.

OpIv37

11-10-2022, 12:54 AM

So what. Only 2 teams have had undefeated regular seasons.

We are better than both of those teams. Only reason they won is because Buffalo beat themselves.

and why do you think that is going to magically stop happening?

Forward_Lateral

11-10-2022, 01:19 AM

I think McDermott could use some more PR training. It just looks dumb to act like reports of him being injured one day are made up to then officially list him as day to day the next.

I mean come on man, we all saw the injury happen.
All of the reports were pure speculation.

He threw the ball 70 yards after the "injury". You would think that with a serious injury, there's no way he'd have been able to do that. Let's hope it's either actually a day to day thing, or at worse, a couple of weeks like when he had the injury back in 2019 (I think??)

OpIv37

11-10-2022, 01:25 AM

All of the reports were pure speculation.

He threw the ball 70 yards after the "injury". You would think that with a serious injury, there's no way he'd have been able to do that. Let's hope it's either actually a day to day thing, or at worse, a couple of weeks like when he had the injury back in 2019 (I think??)

That doesn't mean much. Conor McGregor once tore his ACL halfway through the first round of a UFC fight and still won the fight. These are some of the toughest guys in the world and adrenaline often masks pain. Making one long throw after the injury does not mean he can consistently do it 30-40 times in 3 hours.

Forward_Lateral

11-10-2022, 01:45 AM

That doesn't mean much. Conor McGregor once tore his ACL halfway through the first round of a UFC fight and still won the fight. These are some of the toughest guys in the world and adrenaline often masks pain. Making one long throw after the injury does not mean he can consistently do it 30-40 times in 3 hours.
He's not throwing the ball 70 yards 30 times in 3 hours.

Let's just wait and see, instead of speculating, because none of us know what's actually going on, and anyone who says they do is a liar.

OpIv37

11-10-2022, 01:50 AM

He's not throwing the ball 70 yards 30 times in 3 hours.

Let's just wait and see, instead of speculating, because none of us know what's actually going on, and anyone who says they do is a liar.

Well the point stands. Throwing the ball once after the injury doesn't mean he can consistently do it 30 times in 3 hours. Making 1 throw after the injury is completely meaningless but people keep bringing it up.

Woodman

11-10-2022, 01:52 AM

Run Josh run be Bobby Douglas for a few weeks.

ghz in pittsburgh

11-10-2022, 06:08 AM

Looks like Allen is out this Sunday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills QB Josh Allen was not practicing on Thursday during the media viewing portion of practice.</p>— Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia/status/1590769312574443524?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

notacon

11-10-2022, 06:44 AM

Looks like Allen is out this Sunday.

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Maybe, maybe not.

Either way the Bills will beat Minny on Sunday.
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Forward_Lateral

11-10-2022, 07:01 AM

Do they have a part of practice that's closed to the media usually?

ghz in pittsburgh

11-10-2022, 07:08 AM

Do they have a part of practice that's closed to the media usually?
Majority of the practice is closed to media.

ghz in pittsburgh

11-10-2022, 08:15 AM

Sigh of relief ... video proof that Josh's arm is still attached to his body

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's a look at Josh Allen's right elbow as he walks off practice field Thursday.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB didn't practice for 2nd straight day. <a href="https://t.co/g9PS6IUgbF">pic.twitter.com/g9PS6IUgbF</a></p>— Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1590799091810045952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ingtar33

11-10-2022, 11:06 AM

Looks like Allen is out this Sunday.

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nah, he's out if he's not doing the walkthrough on saturday. he's just "day to day"

The last buffalo fan

11-11-2022, 03:22 AM

My guess is .......

He is playing.
Lots of screen and short passes.
Lots of run game
So we can keep the Vikings offense out of the field.

:gobills:

EDS

11-11-2022, 04:29 AM

All of the reports were pure speculation.

He threw the ball 70 yards after the "injury". You would think that with a serious injury, there's no way he'd have been able to do that. Let's hope it's either actually a day to day thing, or at worse, a couple of weeks like when he had the injury back in 2019 (I think??)

We all saw him grab his arm both after the sack and after that throw. Sure it could be nothing, but never ever is it a good thing when your QB is holding his throwing arm in pain.

notacon

11-11-2022, 04:48 AM

Tre’ White is probably going to not only play this Sunday, but play a large number of snaps.

This QB situation is exactly why the Bills traded a draft pick to get a very experienced and capable Case Keenum. He not only knows what he is doing, he’s been in pressure packed situations before. Just ask Stefon Diggs.

He absolutely is capable to lead the Bills to a win....even more than one if necessary. Not for a whole season as starter, but that’s not what is expected from quality backups. They have to steady the ship while the #1 is down.

The Minny inside D-line is ripe for a Bills dedicated running game, and Keenum is still throwing to a talented WR and TE group. He is accurate in short and intermediate passes and will not panic and make the big mistake.

With the Bills coming into the season as Super Bowl favorites (very well deserved) the games they go into as “underdogs” (at least emotionally...as of now, despite Allen probably not playing, the Bills ares still 3.5 point favorites) this game sets up as the extremely deep and talented team to come through with a BIG WIN without their leader.

That view is bolstered by the usual Negative Nancy talk from our resident caynic, Opi. Whatever he predicts, the chances of him being WRONG is about 90%.

notacon

11-11-2022, 06:31 AM

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Woodman

11-11-2022, 07:06 AM

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/11/11/23453314/bills-vikings-injury-report-josh-allen-jordan-poyer-greg-rousseau-tremaine-edmunds

Jordan Poyer, Greg Rousseau ruled out for Bills-Vikings tilt!

The rest of the team’s injured players, including quarterback Josh Allen (https://www.nfl.com/players/josh-allen-4) and linebacker Tremaine Edmunds (https://www.nfl.com/players/tremaine-edmunds), don’t have game-day designations as of yet. We may know more after the team’s practice, and we will update as soon as those reports come in.

Woodman

11-11-2022, 07:46 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/11/bills-list-josh-allen-as-questionable-2/

Bills list Josh Allen as questionable

notacon

11-11-2022, 08:15 AM

Several tweets that are interesting....

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sukie

11-11-2022, 09:38 AM

Hey Joe… ever think that Allen will suit up but be Keenum’s backup?

Woodman

11-11-2022, 09:41 AM

Hey Joe… ever think that Allen will suit up but be Keenum’s backup?

I DID!! :D :D :D

TacklingDummy

11-12-2022, 12:42 AM

I'd be surprised if Josh doesn't play.

BuffaloBlitz83

11-12-2022, 02:10 AM

I'd be surprised if Josh doesn't play.

Hope so. I’m going!

notacon

11-12-2022, 08:17 AM

Well....looks like the chances of Josh starting went up quite a bit....

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notacon

11-12-2022, 08:26 AM

More reporting.....

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notacon

11-12-2022, 08:30 AM

Two players that were elevated from the practice squad (https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-announce-two-elevations-for-sunday-s-game-against-vikings)....

RB Duke Johnson
CB Xavier Rhodes

TacklingDummy

11-12-2022, 09:13 AM

Reports are Josh is starting.