I’m in the minority but

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

I didn’t hate the call to go for it up 10 with the opponent backed up in their end zone on 4th and 2

in my mind, a touchdown basically ends this. Let’s put this away now. A field goal and you’re still up 2 scores as opposed to 3. Huge difference.

what I DID mind was the play calling the third and fourth downs. Stupid. Unimaginative. Hell, even a josh sweep or sneak gets that done and they essentially put the game out of reach.

[sahlensguy]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I didn’t hate the call to go for it up 10 with the opponent backed up in their end zone on 4th and 2

in my mind, a touchdown basically ends this. Let’s put this away now. A field goal and you’re still up 2 scores as opposed to 3. Huge difference.

what I DID mind was the play calling the third and fourth downs. Stupid. Unimaginative. Hell, even a josh sweep or sneak gets that done and they essentially put the game out of reach.

I hated it because we were not playing with momentum there.

Take the points in that case, imo.

[John Doe]

Re: I’m in the minority but

Yes, you are only up 2 scores if you go for the field goal. But, all you need is another field goal to go up 3 scores. It was one of the turning points of the game.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Re: I’m in the minority but

Yes, you are only up 2 scores if you go for the field goal. But, all you need is another field goal to go up 3 scores. It was one of the turning points of the game.

No
still 2 scores
another 3 you’re up 16
and unlikely as that is, it’s two touchdowns and 2 extra points. Still a 2 possession game

my point being is that 17 points makes ALL the difference as to outcome (or Should have anyway)

[Mace]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I minded that they pretty much had to do it, because there was no stopping Kirk Cousins and the 24th ranked rushing offense from imposing their will casually on our defense like we were an expansion team.

[Woodman]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I didn’t hate the call to go for it up 10 with the opponent backed up in their end zone on 4th and 2

in my mind, a touchdown basically ends this. Let’s put this away now. A field goal and you’re still up 2 scores as opposed to 3. Huge difference.

what I DID mind was the play calling the third and fourth downs. Stupid. Unimaginative. Hell, even a josh sweep or sneak gets that done and they essentially put the game out of reach.

Going for it should have worked out ..... Josh RPO was all it would have taken IMO as well.

When he gets a head of steam going ....... look out ..... he's so extremely hard to stop when he wants it.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: I’m in the minority but

No
still 2 scores
another 3 you’re up 16
and unlikely as that is, it’s two touchdowns and 2 extra points. Still a 2 possession game

my point being is that 17 points makes ALL the difference as to outcome (or Should have anyway)

And sometimes 13 points puts the game away as in this case.

[John Doe]

Re: I’m in the minority but

No
still 2 scores
another 3 you’re up 16
and unlikely as that is, it’s two touchdowns and 2 extra points. Still a 2 possession game

my point being is that 17 points makes ALL the difference as to outcome (or Should have anyway)

The probability of success on a short field goal is much greater than a 5 yard gain. There is a time to take the 3 points instead of risking a momentum changing stop. And, that is just what happened.

[YardRat]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I didn't mind it at the time either, kind of gotten used to them going for it on fourth down, but I would have taken the three if it was my call.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: I’m in the minority but

McDermott is too conservative, except when he takes too many chances.

We need to run the ball more when we're winning, except when we're supposed to step on our opponents throat and go for the jugular.

We need to stop listening to analytics so much and start paying attention to what the analytics are saying.

We were a batted pass on 4th and 18 away from winning this game, I'm over it. We don't need to get rid of our coach, or our coordinator, or rebuild. Who were we missing on defense? Our top 2 CBs, top 2 safeties, Edmunds in the 2nd half, and Rosseau? Sometimes Bills fans just have to relax. **** happens.

[TheConsigliere]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I minded that they pretty much had to do it, because there was no stopping Kirk Cousins and the 24th ranked rushing offense from imposing their will casually on our defense like we were an expansion team.

Who is the de facto decision-maker of our D?

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I had no issue with going for it. I did have a major issue with the 3 play calls after having it 2nd and 2.

Going for it was essentially going for the win. If they get a TD there, and go up 17, the game is basically over.

The play call absolutely sucked.

[OpIv37]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I didn't like the call at the time, but statistically, it's a coin flip. The problem is that Josh just cannot throw an INT in that situation.

3. The fourth-and-2 decision was essentially a coinflip
Up 27-17 in the fourth quarter, the Bills drove to the Vikings’ 7-yard-line with a chance to go up by three possessions. They squandered two straight passes with only two yards to go for another first down, forcing the fourth-down decision that has drawn the ire of many. Rather than take the points from a field goal and a 13-point lead, the Bills trusted their offense to get them the two yards, to at least give them four more chances to score a touchdown. As we now know, the Bills blew that chance. Allen threw an interception, and the Vikings returned it to their 34-yard line, setting up a touchdown drive and a 27-23 game down the stretch.

Despite the result, the 4th-and-2 in that situation, at the time of the game, was actually a toss-up according to the Ben Baldwin win probability model. Their win probability with a failed attempt only decreased from the 97 percent a made field goal would have provided, to 94 percent. Had the Bills scored a touchdown on that drive, their chances of winning would have become a near certainty. With the math on their side telling them that it’s basically a dealer’s choice situation, the Bills set out to effectively end the game on that drive. Although it’s an unpopular belief, and the execution on that fourth-down play was lacking, I like the Bills’ decision, in theory, to try and put the game out of reach at that moment.

https://theathletic.com/3879207/2022/11/14/bills-observations-vikings/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: I’m in the minority but

The probability of success on a short field goal is much greater than a 5 yard gain. There is a time to take the 3 points instead of risking a momentum changing stop. And, that is just what happened.

It wasn't 5 yards they needed. It was 2.

[sahlensguy]

Re: I’m in the minority but

I didn't like the call at the time, but statistically, it's a coin flip. The problem is that Josh just cannot throw an INT in that situation.



https://theathletic.com/3879207/2022...ampaign=601983

An int or a turnover on downs. Take your pick. What was the big difference?