Salary Cap estimated to be $220 Million

[kgun12]

https://www.hogshaven.com/platform/amp/2022/12/5/23494883/nfl-salary-cap-could-exceed-220-million-for-2023-washington-commanders

About an 11.8 million dollar increase, not as much as I thought it was up!

[sahlensguy]

The window is open for now.

The AFCE is good.

[mightysimi]

I'm not convinced that number includes gambling revenue.

[sahlensguy]

I'm not convinced that number includes gambling revenue.

The gambling advertising, especially on Amazon Prime during games is disgusting. It's hardly entertainment for the family.

[mightysimi]

The gambling advertising, especially on Amazon Prime during games is disgusting. It's hardly entertainment for the family.
While I don't agree with all the commercials, I don't think there is an issue there. I think it is fairly easy for parents to have a conversation around the subject of gambling with kids.

Would you consider scantily clad cheerleaders good family entertainment?

[sahlensguy]

While I don't agree with all the commercials, I don't think there is an issue there. I think it is fairly easy for parents to have a conversation around the subject of gambling with kids.

Would you consider scantily clad cheerleaders good family entertainment?

Clarify scantily clad.

NFL cheerleaders are not dressed inappropriately. It's the sexist oglers that make it a problem.

[Forward_Lateral]

I wonder what the player's union has to say about this.

The NFL just signed billion dollar deals with Amazon, among others.

You are only going to increase the cap by 5%?

If I'm a player, I'm outraged.

[Night Train]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2023/

[sukie]

The gambling advertising, especially on Amazon Prime during games is disgusting. It's hardly entertainment for the family.
During the commercials little Timmy should be getting you a beer and sweet Katie, the snacks. Sheesh.

[OpIv37]

The gambling advertising, especially on Amazon Prime during games is disgusting. It's hardly entertainment for the family.

Football never has been family friendly. The game itself is about the biggest, strongest, most athletic people we have demolishing each other over a misshapen leather ball. There are violent hits and brutal injuries. There are half-naked cheerleaders on the sidelines, and half the commercials are half-naked women peddling booze. If you actually go to a game, the entire crowd is hammered.

But you're upset that the gambling ads aren't family friendly?

Personally, I'm glad that the league finally embraced the gambling. They made billions off of gambling for decades, all while publicly being against gambling. Like it or hate it, at least they are finally honest about it.

[sahlensguy]

During the commercials little Timmy should be getting you a beer and sweet Katie, the snacks. Sheesh.

More than $50 billion has been bet on sports with American sportsbooks already in 2022.

Gambling can affect not only bank accounts,
but self-esteem, relationships, physical and mental health, work performance and social life.

I guess that is what the beer is for?

[kgun12]

Football never has been family friendly. The game itself is about the biggest, strongest, most athletic people we have demolishing each other over a misshapen leather ball. There are violent hits and brutal injuries. There are half-naked cheerleaders on the sidelines, and half the commercials are half-naked women peddling booze. If you actually go to a game, the entire crowd is hammered.

But you're upset that the gambling ads aren't family friendly?

Personally, I'm glad that the league finally embraced the gambling. They made billions off of gambling for decades, all while publicly being against gambling. Like it or hate it, at least they are finally honest about it.

Good post, 100% spot on!!!

[sahlensguy]

Football never has been family friendly.

That's only partially right.

Without marketing the game to kids, it would be dead in two generations. Autographs, merchandise, youth football...the game needs families.

[kgun12]

More than $50 billion has been bet on sports with American sportsbooks already in 2022.

Gambling can affect not only bank accounts,
but self-esteem, relationships, physical and mental health, work performance and social life.

I guess that is what the beer is for?

So can alcohol.

[sahlensguy]

So can alcohol.

Of course and if you want to make that your crusade, I won't try to stop you.

[OpIv37]

That's only partially right.

Without marketing the game to kids, it would be dead in two generations. Autographs, merchandise, youth football...the game needs families.

Fair point, but the game itself is based on violence and has always objectified women and embraced alcohol. Hell, the first time I went to a Bills game in the early 90's, there was a giant Marlboro ad right next to the Jumbotron. The gambling is nothing.


The league drives me nuts with this, though. They want parents paying for tickets for kids who are barely old enough to understand the game, but will want overpriced merch and $5 hot dogs once they're in the stadium, but they also make a ton of money selling and advertising booze, so they want to embrace the party atmosphere at the same time. They're constantly playing both sides. It's really irritating.

[Forward_Lateral]

NFL teams could give all of their tickets away for free, for the entire season, and still make millions and millions of dollars.

[mightysimi]

Clarify scantily clad.

NFL cheerleaders are not dressed inappropriately. It's the sexist oglers that make it a problem.

The same argument can be made about gambling. It's only a problem if you can't control yourself.

[kgun12]

Of course and if you want to make that your crusade, I won't try to stop you.

Not sure what the hell that means. All I said that alcohol has the same effect meaning both are vices that can have bad outcomes. Not sure where you’re going?

[kgun12]

Fair point, but the game itself is based on violence and has always objectified women and embraced alcohol. Hell, the first time I went to a Bills game in the early 90's, there was a giant Marlboro ad right next to the Jumbotron. The gambling is nothing.


The league drives me nuts with this, though. They want parents paying for tickets for kids who are barely old enough to understand the game, but will want overpriced merch and $5 hot dogs once they're in the stadium, but they also make a ton of money selling and advertising booze, so they want to embrace the party atmosphere at the same time. They're constantly playing both sides. It's really irritating.

Agree again.

[Woodman]

I'm betting there's a considerable increase.

[Woodman]

NFL teams could give all of their tickets away for free, for the entire season, and still make millions and millions of dollars.
Could do that but won't dammit.

[notacon]

Clarify scantily clad.

NFL cheerleaders are not dressed inappropriately. It's the sexist oglers that make it a problem.

Uhhhhhh.....NFL cheerleaders (for the most part) are dressed to encourage “oglers” and that is the only reason they are there....and ogling has nothing to do with being "sexist”.


https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/df871b7881673e7844036ee80db54cbc/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/08/11/16602541617814.jpg

https://imengine.prod.srp.navigacloud.com/?uuid=A9E35ACA-AA9C-458D-88B5-5CE119C92279&type=primary&q=72&width=1024

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTY4MTI3OTg2MjI5NzgxODg4/arizona-cardinals-cheerleaders-wyp_6801jpg.webp

If any women in the stands were dressed this way at any NFL game (or on any street), it absolutely would be considered “inappropriate”.

[kgun12]

Uhhhhhh.....NFL cheerleaders (for the most part) are dressed to encourage “oglers” and that is the only reason they are there....and ogling has nothing to do with being "sexist”.


https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/df871b7881673e7844036ee80db54cbc/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/08/11/16602541617814.jpg

https://imengine.prod.srp.navigacloud.com/?uuid=A9E35ACA-AA9C-458D-88B5-5CE119C92279&type=primary&q=72&width=1024

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTY4MTI3OTg2MjI5NzgxODg4/arizona-cardinals-cheerleaders-wyp_6801jpg.webp

If any women in the stands were dressed this way at any NFL game (or on any street), it absolutely would be considered “inappropriate”.

I guess those would be good examples of scantily clad!

If anyone thinks the NFL gives a damn their fan objectifying women or players you’re kidding yourself. Look at ticket prices or the blackout rule. Like was said, the NFL doesn’t need tickets sales at all. As far as the players all you have to do is rewatch the Bills/Dolphins and and Tia stumbling all over the field with a “back injury”.

The NFL ONLY CARES about one thing and one thing only…Profits and be damned who gets in their way!

[notacon]

I guess those would be good examples of scantily clad!


Ya think?!?!?!? :D:


Put it this way. I have two daughters. Enough said.

[sahlensguy]

Not sure what the hell that means. All I said that alcohol has the same effect meaning both are vices that can have bad outcomes. Not sure where you’re going?

I believed that you brought up the alcohol equivalency to criticize me for not condemning both gambling and alcohol. My point was brought up to criticize you for not condemning either.

[kgun12]

I was commenting that alcohol is as bad as gambling, nothing more, really. Got to tell you I read this stuff on my phone so I magnify the text, most of the time I don’t even know who wrote the post. Had nothing to do with you.

[sahlensguy]

Uhhhhhh.....NFL cheerleaders (for the most part) are dressed to encourage “oglers” and that is the only reason they are there....and ogling has nothing to do with being "sexist”.


https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/df871b7881673e7844036ee80db54cbc/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2022/08/11/16602541617814.jpg

https://imengine.prod.srp.navigacloud.com/?uuid=A9E35ACA-AA9C-458D-88B5-5CE119C92279&type=primary&q=72&width=1024

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTY4MTI3OTg2MjI5NzgxODg4/arizona-cardinals-cheerleaders-wyp_6801jpg.webp

If any women in the stands were dressed this way at any NFL game (or on any street), it absolutely would be considered “inappropriate”.

I f you have a problem with the cheerleaders, go ahead make it an issue. I'm okay with it. There is much more exposed skin at any of my kid's youth swim meets and that's okay too. They are comfortable in their own skin and that's a good thing.

[sahlensguy]

I was commenting that alcohol is as bad as gambling, nothing more, really. Got to tell you I read this stuff on my phone so I magnify the text, most of the time I don’t even know who wrote the post. Had nothing to do with you.

I didn't take it personally. No worries. I took it that you attacked the gambling issue unfairly.

[sahlensguy]

Fair point, but the game itself is based on violence and has always objectified women and embraced alcohol. Hell, the first time I went to a Bills game in the early 90's, there was a giant Marlboro ad right next to the Jumbotron. The gambling is nothing.


The league drives me nuts with this, though. They want parents paying for tickets for kids who are barely old enough to understand the game, but will want overpriced merch and $5 hot dogs once they're in the stadium, but they also make a ton of money selling and advertising booze, so they want to embrace the party atmosphere at the same time. They're constantly playing both sides. It's really irritating.

And if the CTE issue comes to full light, youth football will be severely hindered. They want to stand for Cancer awareness, the military etc while reaping the exposure but cant even stand up to the DeShawn Watsons of league. Its a joke which sucks, because it's the ultimate team sport.

[kgun12]

I didn't take it personally. No worries. I took it that you attacked the gambling issue unfairly.

Nope, no issue the NFL doesn’t care about anything but the bottom line! $$$

[notacon]

I f you have a problem with the cheerleaders, go ahead make it an issue. I'm okay with it. There is much more exposed skin at any of my kid's youth swim meets and that's okay too. They are comfortable in their own skin and that's a good thing.

I have no problem with cheerleaders or scantily clad females.

I DO have a problem with your post that said....especialy the part that I bolded....


Clarify scantily clad.

NFL cheerleaders are not dressed inappropriately. It's the sexist oglers that make it a problem.

[imbondz]

Fellas come on, their outfits help them move around better. Purely functional.

[notacon]

Fellas come on, their outfits help them move around better. Purely functional.

Well....this offers ability to “move around better”....

https://www.si.com/.image/c_limit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_700/MTY4MTY5NTc5MjMwMDEyNjg5/san-francisco-49ers-gold-rush-cheerleaders-ap_660028146798jpg.webp