Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

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  • notacon
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 33086

    Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

    Yes, certainly winning MVP is a huge personal honor.

    But, the likelihood of winning a Super Bowl the same year as winning the MVP is surprisingly bad.

    I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers winning the MVP two years in a row, despite the fact that the Packers did not even get to the SB during those years, with last year a one-and-out debacle.

    So....I did a little research. The results are pretty eye opening....


    List of MVP’s that played in Super Bowl....

    2017 – Tom Brady – Lost SB
    2016 – Matt Ryan – Lost SB
    2015 – Cam Newton – Lost SB
    2013 – Peyton Manning – Lost SB
    2009 – Peyton Manning – Lost SB
    2007 – Tom Brady – Lost SB
    2005 – Shaun Alexander – Lost SB
    2002 – Rich Gannon – Lost SB
    2001 – Kurt Warner – Lost SB

    1999 – Kurt Warner – WON SB
    1998 – Terrell Davis – WON SB
    1997 – Brett Farve (co-MVP w/ Barry Sanders) – Lost SB
    1996 – Brett Farve – WON SB
    1994 – Steve Young – WON SB
    1993 – Emmitt Smith – WON SB
    1991 – Thurmon Thomas – Lost SB
    1989 – Joe Montana – WON SB
    1988 – Boomer Esiason – Lost SB
    1987 – John Elway – Lost SB
    1986 – Lawrence Taylor – WON SB
    1984 – Dan Marino – Lost SB
    1983 – Joe Theismann – Lost SB
    1982 – Mark Moseley – WON SB
    1981 – Ken Anderson – Lost SB
    1978 – Terry Bradshaw – WON SB
    1972 – Larry Brown – Lost SB
    1968 – Earl Morrall – Lost SB
    1966 – Bart Starr – WON SB


    28 times MVP played in SB
    10 times MVP WON SB
    18 times MVP Lost SB

    55 SB’s – 18% won MVP and SB
    55 SB’s – 33% win MVP and Lost SB
    55 SB’s – 51% (28) of MVP's played in game
    55 SB’s – 49% (27) of MVP's did NOT even get to SB.


    The last time a player won the MVP and WON the SB was 23 years ago.....literally LAST CENTURY.

    I’d rather (and I suspect every Bills player including Josh Allen) would rather have the Lombardi Trophy over the MVP.
  • sukie
    Seriously?
    • Sep 2012
    • 21532

    #2
    Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

    Cute stat but meaningless.

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    • notacon
      Registered User
      • Aug 2012
      • 33086

      #3
      Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

      Originally posted by sukie View Post
      Cute stat but meaningless.
      Actually, it’s far, far from “meaningless”.

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      • TacklingDummy
        Unreachable Douche
        • Jul 2002
        • 71725

        #4
        Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

        He's not winning it unless he plays out of this world for the rest of the season.

        Gabe Davis dropping that 70 yard bomb vs the Jets, the PI on Knox that wasn't called in endzone, choke against Minnesota, the Fumble, Heat, and bounce to McKenzie vs Miami will be why.
        Last edited by TacklingDummy; 12-07-2022, 07:32 AM.

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        • Woodman
          Legendary Zoner
          • Apr 2014
          • 65988

          #5
          Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

          No worries on the MVP front.

          “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

          "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


          Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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          • Woodman
            Legendary Zoner
            • Apr 2014
            • 65988

            #6
            Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

            Originally posted by sukie View Post
            Cute stat but meaningless.
            Super Bowl MVP ..... now that's worth a bunch.

            “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

            "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


            Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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            • Bill Cody
              Registered User
              • Sep 2004
              • 11915

              #7
              Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

              I don't do superstitions. You could do the same kind of thing with being on the Madden cover. Doesn't mean they're actually connected. I hope he does win because it would mean he ups his game a LOT from where it's been the past month. Barring that he isn't winning anyway so it's moot.

              Win or lose the MVP we should all be rooting for Josh to play at an MVP level. If he doesn't, no Lombardi.

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              • Cali512
                Registered User
                • Jan 2012
                • 6393

                #8
                Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                This doesnt mean **** lol. The only correlation that this could possibly have is if the reason this is happening is because their teams are dependent on their "mvp", that the actual team gets exposed during the playoffs

                And i know your not trying to have that discussion
                Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                • sukie
                  Seriously?
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 21532

                  #9
                  Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                  Originally posted by notacon View Post
                  Actually, it’s far, far from “meaningless”.
                  How can what earl morrall did in the 70s have ANY bearing on what Josh Allen will accomplish? I’ll wait.

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                  • Forward_Lateral
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 29897

                    #10
                    Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                    He won't. They've already handed it to Hurts

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                    • Cali512
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 6393

                      #11
                      Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                      Originally posted by sukie View Post
                      How can what earl morrall did in the 70s have ANY bearing on what Josh Allen will accomplish? I’ll wait.


                      Its like when a team goes 7-2 vs an oppenent "at home" and half of those games were from the 80s


                      Or when cincinatti looks amazing and people say "just the bengals" because of the last 30 yrs when the only constant is the owner


                      Only one team wins the superbowl and one player makes the mvp. The odds that they are the same "player" is highly unlikely based on statistics, and the only coorelation is the fact that possibly the mvp is the mvp because their team is so dependent on that player that when in the playoffs, the league goes all out to stop them and the rest of the team is exposed

                      Weve already seen allen struggle vs the ravens and still find a way to win. Allen has struggled this season and the defense has helped out. Allen is the soul reason this offense is great (diggs too), but i can see this being the only reason for that stat to mean anything
                      Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                      • Kenny
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2728

                        #12
                        Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                        Meaningless. I suppose you could also say that if those QBs werent playing at an MVP level, they never would have made the superbowl at all.

                        MVP isnt like the probowl, where fans decide who's most popular. MVPs are generally deserving of that title. And if we're going to make the superbowl, let alone have any chance of winning it, Allen better get back to playing like an MVP - and if he wins it, then he deserves it.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86291

                          #13
                          Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                          I used to feel the same way, but Allen's been breaking the molds since he got drafted so **** it, let him win league MVP and Super Bowl MVP the same year...this year.
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                          • Bill Cody
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 11915

                            #14
                            Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                            Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                            He won't. They've already handed it to Hurts
                            who's they?

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                            • Bill Cody
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 11915

                              #15
                              Re: Here’s Hoping Josh Allen Does NOT Win MVP for 2022

                              Originally posted by sukie View Post
                              How can what earl morrall did in the 70s have ANY bearing on what Josh Allen will accomplish? I’ll wait.
                              Well Josh found out the odds of a QB winning a SB with a buzz cut were super low based on history so he decided to let his hair grow. Better safe than sorry.

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