Sully's at it again....

[Historian]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked about the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> offense struggling at times and “not looking like an offense that can win the Super Bowl,” Josh Allen had a simple response:<br><br>“Okay 😐.” <a href="https://t.co/drsbMaxc3m">pic.twitter.com/drsbMaxc3m</a></p>&mdash; Kimberley A. Martin (@ByKimberleyA) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByKimberleyA/status/1602051721882206208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

[TacklingDummy]

Seen that, laughed.

Josh shoulder shrug, like WTF. :lmao:


Not worried about the Super Bowl until they actually get to the Super Bowl.

Right now it's Miami next.

[Woodman]

He reminds me of somebody can't quite put my finger on it though. :snicker:

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Nowadays, the "reporters" have their narratives pre-determined and they go to these news conferences to seek materials to support their narratives. You see that in CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS, everywhere.

Sullivan is just a small time reporter that fits into that mold. He had the column written yesterday evening (https://www.wivb.com/jerry-sullivan/buffalo-bills-win-but-offense-falling-short-of-a-super-bowl-standard-josh-allen/?utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=referral) and his statement (not even a question) was attempt to get some sort of confirmation from Josh to be quoted into his column.

[Bill Cody]

We've been over this before. It's a long season. Nobody knows how well anyone will be playing in a month, what the injury situations for each team will be etc. But right now there is no team the Bills could not compete with. Sully is just being Sully

[Night Train]

We all have our own eyes and know the Bills as well as the media, if not more.

Glass half full vs. glass half empty. Narratives. Op/eds.

They may be able to tell us how they look in practice. Yet we can all see how they play in the games.

Nothing they say carries any real weight.

[Gibby 2.0]

Wait, have OPiV and Sully ever been in the same room before? What about Sully and Marinora? Weird, I think they are the same person.

[Forward_Lateral]

Guy is a trashcan.

[Woodman]

Guy is a trashcan.
Difference trash can is useful. :snicker:

[YardRat]

Sullivan has always been a dick, and always will be.

[Novacane]

Josh handled him perfectly.

[Mace]

I have no problems with Sullivan, and not sure what the beef is because we've all noticed the wobble. If you actually read the piece he wrote, it was fine, it was pretty much what some of us have been noticing. I agree with it.

And I agree with what he said to Allen. Probably my only gripe, is that he failed to mold it into a question Allen could thoughtfully answer.

It's really not the same offense and it's hard (atm) to see them piling up points to go mano a mano with full throttle contenders. I'm honestly not sure what happens against Miami.

I still think Allen is not himself physically, Dorsey calls some odd plays, the receivers can't catch and the line struggles. But it's the same offense that rolled up to the bye with Allen on a pace to pass Peyton Mannings' passing yards record for a season. I mean something is wrong and it starts somewhere and you want to have hope or a feeling it's correctable and won't stay this way.

I can't pretend not to notice though.

[Typ0]

He just asks the most difficult question he can ask when he gets the chance. At least he's still trying to be a journalist. Seemed like a fair question too!

[Canadian'eh!]

Guy is a trashcan.

Hey. That’s my quarterback

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Jay Skursky of BN asked basically the same question (i.e. not particular play, mkre overall level). But he's more detailed and led to Dorsey to give some meaningful answer. And Dorsey mentioned some QB decisions as part of the issue.

I just think a statement like "hey it is not superbowl level offense" is more like two fans talk during the game, after the game, in a bar, at home whatnot. It is not the right question to ask a player in press conference after game. To me, I want to get some insight of decisions, feel of the game stuff. Players are not going to do fan talks in those settings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz99CKs8nnU

[Mace]

Jay Skursky of BN asked basically the same question (i.e. not particular play, mkre overall level). But he's more detailed and led to Dorsey to give some meaningful answer. And Dorsey mentioned some QB decisions as part of the issue.

I just think a statement like "hey it is not superbowl level offense" is more like two fans talk during the game, after the game, in a bar, at home whatnot. It is not the right question to ask a player in press conference after game. To me, I want to get some insight of decisions, feel of the game stuff. Players are not going to do fan talks in those settings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz99CKs8nnU

Can absolutely agree with that.

[Jeff1220]

"Trent Crimm. The Independent"

[Historian]

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[sukie]

It’s not a Super Bowl offense

that is not a question. Really a blunder on Sully’s part. Frame it as a question. Josh responded perfectly to an amateur journalist fail at a question.

it’s like jeopardy.

[Cntrygal]

He's an ass.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“The worst fans really are the women. They don’t get critical journalism. They’re all wannabe cheerleaders” <br><br>-Jerry Sullivan <br><br>YIKES. <a href="https://t.co/FrHfB3quay">pic.twitter.com/FrHfB3quay</a></p>&mdash; NoShaveDave (@NoShaveDaveee) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoShaveDaveee/status/1602513111961174017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[cookie G]

I have no problems with Sullivan, and not sure what the beef is because we've all noticed the wobble. If you actually read the piece he wrote, it was fine, it was pretty much what some of us have been noticing. I agree with it.

And I agree with what he said to Allen. Probably my only gripe, is that he failed to mold it into a question Allen could thoughtfully answer.

It's really not the same offense and it's hard (atm) to see them piling up points to go mano a mano with full throttle contenders. I'm honestly not sure what happens against Miami.

I still think Allen is not himself physically, Dorsey calls some odd plays, the receivers can't catch and the line struggles. But it's the same offense that rolled up to the bye with Allen on a pace to pass Peyton Mannings' passing yards record for a season. I mean something is wrong and it starts somewhere and you want to have hope or a feeling it's correctable and won't stay this way.

I can't pretend not to notice though.

He's down to a once- per-year grab at attention. Last year, it was the Poyer/Hyde thing. This year, he tried with Allen. Josh's one word dismissal was beautiful.

Until he makes his dumb comments, people forget he's still around.

As far as being "right"...its the blind squirrel/broken clock/pick your cliche thing.

Say the same thing every week...be wrong 90% of the time...and the week in which things don't look so good, exclaim ""see, I was right!!"

It must be hell for him that the team is winning these days.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

He's down to a once- per-year grab at attention. Last year, it was the Poyer/Hyde thing. This year, he tried with Allen. Josh's one word dismissal was beautiful.

Until he makes his dumb comments, people forget he's still around.

As far as being "right"...its the blind squirrel/broken clock/pick your cliche thing.

Say the same thing every week...be wrong 90% of the time...and the week in which things don't look so good, exclaim ""see, I was right!!"

It must be hell for him that the team is winning these days.


sounds familiar.

i feel i've seen this exact same thing on this site before.......

[notacon]

"Trent Crimm. The Independent"

Except Trent Crimm actually framed questions. Like sukie said (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/261955-Sully-s-at-it-again?p=4985586&viewfull=1#post4985586), "that is not a question. Really a blunder on Sully’s part. Frame it as a question. Josh responded perfectly to an <strike>amateur</strike> journalist fail at a question. “


Although Sully is far, far from an “amateur”. He stepped on his dick with that one.

I also don’t believe that one can say that “It’s not a Super Bowl offense”. WAY too early for that kind of cynicism.

The point is that the Bills are extremely capable of performing with a dynamic offense that is very dangerous. All that matters in the stretch run and in the playoffs is to perform at that level WHEN THEY HAVE TO.

If anyone doubts that Josh Allen can and will do so, they are not paying attention and are ignoring reality.

[cookie G]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of comments made by contributing columnist Jerry Sullivan on a podcast Monday, the Niagara Gazette and Lockport Union Sun &amp; Journal have made the decision to part ways with Sullivan. <a href="https://t.co/L3JW603qlB">https://t.co/L3JW603qlB</a></p>&mdash; Niagara Gazette (@NiagaraGazette) <a href="https://twitter.com/NiagaraGazette/status/1602743681207140352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The dude just got fired from the Niagara Gazette, due to some comments regarding female fans.

Pennysaver or the Cheektawaga Bee up next, I suppose.

[Historian]

This year, he tried with Allen. Josh's one word dismissal was beautiful.

.
That's why I started the thread.

Seeing a 26 year old completely disarm a 64 year old man with an axe to grid was priceless.

Has the Bills offense been in a bit of a funk? Sure.

Is Josh Allen who you grill about it?

Mmm not so much. Kid leaves a pint of blood on the field every week.

[helmetguy]

Jerry Sullivan-Once a hack, forever a hack.

[Forward_Lateral]

He’s about to get cancelled, lol

Im not normally ok with cancel culture, but screw Sully, he deserves whatever is coming to him

[YardRat]

Sullivan is proof that trolls existed before the internet.

[Night Train]

Sullivan was under fire on social media immediately from Twitter followers and other journalists after he said: “The worst fans really are the women. They don’t get critical journalism. They’re all wannabe cheerleaders.”

Fired by everyone yesterday . He had credentials for 2 small newspapers and our local CBS station. He now is unemployed.

[Forward_Lateral]

Sullivan was under fire on social media immediately from Twitter followers and other journalists after he said: “The worst fans really are the women. They don’t get critical journalism. They’re all wannabe cheerleaders.”

Fired by everyone yesterday . He had credentials for 2 small newspapers and our local CBS station. He now is unemployed.
It was only a matter of time. His years of douchebaggery finally caught up to him.

I hope he lives the rest of his working days writing for some rag in Bumblestump

[imbondz]

Kid leaves a pint of blood on the field every week.

yep. and we all see it.

[Novacane]

He's an ass.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“The worst fans really are the women. They don’t get critical journalism. They’re all wannabe cheerleaders” <br><br>-Jerry Sullivan <br><br>YIKES. <a href="https://t.co/FrHfB3quay">pic.twitter.com/FrHfB3quay</a></p>— NoShaveDave (@NoShaveDaveee) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoShaveDaveee/status/1602513111961174017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok cheerleader ; )

[imbondz]

Yikes is right. True. But yikes. lmao

[Cntrygal]

Ok cheerleader ; )

That's "top wannabe cheerleader" to you. :chair:

[Cntrygal]

:roflmao:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/JohnFina?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JohnFina</a> Can you believe this guy? Look what he changed his bio to? <a href="https://t.co/jFiDOzm4xW">pic.twitter.com/jFiDOzm4xW</a></p>&mdash; Investigatormc (@investigatormc) <a href="https://twitter.com/investigatormc/status/1603043396523892736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Mace]

He's down to a once- per-year grab at attention. Last year, it was the Poyer/Hyde thing. This year, he tried with Allen. Josh's one word dismissal was beautiful.

Until he makes his dumb comments, people forget he's still around.

As far as being "right"...its the blind squirrel/broken clock/pick your cliche thing.

Say the same thing every week...be wrong 90% of the time...and the week in which things don't look so good, exclaim ""see, I was right!!"

It must be hell for him that the team is winning these days.

It just tells me you don't really follow what he's been doing. He was actually excited and enjoying the Bills and Allen, and optimistic until they started wobbling, and like I said, his points were good, and I value the "correct" part more than who says it. If it's right, it's right.

I won't however, defend him for his "cheerleader" comments. That was stunning, and he got what he deserved for them.

[Novacane]

67 points in 2 games since Jerry bestowed his wisdom on Josh. Still not where they need to be but 33 points a game in terrible weather. I'll take it. Thanks Jer!

[Woodman]

67 points in 2 games since Jerry bestowed his wisdom on Josh. Still not where they need to be but 33 points a game in terrible weather. I'll take it. Thanks Jer!
Jerry the terrible is our good luck charm. :couch:

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I'm a fairly big free speech guy. You probably want some nasty voices out there regardless. In fact some of the superbowl Bills guys later admitted that what Jerry wrote inspired them to get better. There is a plateau for "self-motivation" for probably 99.9% of the players.

The current Bills has not reached the levels of those early 90s players. If they somehow get over the hump this year, I feel like we need some more criticism down the road.