Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

[Woodman]

[Novacane]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

He's right. But certain fans want perfect wins every week. That's not reality. Never has been. Even for Super Bowl winners.

[kgun12]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

He's right. But certain fans want perfect wins every week. That's not reality. Never has been. Even for Super Bowl winners.

I agree, a field goal that just makes it over the crossbar is still worth 3 points, a home run that bounces on the wall and goes over is still a HR. They don’t put it anywhere on the stat sheet but made field goal and home run.

Pretty doesn’t matter!

[Woodman]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

He's right. But certain fans want perfect wins every week. That's not reality. Never has been. Even for Super Bowl winners.

He's a realist.

Go Bills!

[OpIv37]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

He's right. But certain fans want perfect wins every week. That's not reality. Never has been. Even for Super Bowl winners.

Certain fans understand that playing poorly week after week against subpar competition doesn’t bode well once we start having to play playoff teams.

This team does not put teams away. Look at the Bears game. McD made that challenge on the 4th down play. I thought it was stupid but he was right and we got the ball back. If we go down and score, the game is out of reach. What happened? Josh threw an INT and let them right back in the team.

This team lacks that killer instinct. And I’m not the only one saying this. Go back and look at the gameday threads and you’ll see plenty of people complaining about how this team can’t put opponents away.

Something similar has happened in almost every game since the bye. Let Chicago stick around? Sure, we still win. Let better teams stick around? We get 13 seconds. We get that debacle against Minny. That’s where this team is headed.

[notacon]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Certain fans understand that playing poorly week after week against subpar competition doesn’t bode well once we start having to play playoff teams.

This team does not put teams away. Look at the Bears game. McD made that challenge on the 4th down play. I thought it was stupid but he was right and we got the ball back. If we go down and score, the game is out of reach. What happened? Josh threw an INT and let them right back in the team.

This team lacks that killer instinct. And I’m not the only one saying this. Go back and look at the gameday threads and you’ll see plenty of people complaining about how this team can’t put opponents away.

Something similar has happened in almost every game since the bye. Let Chicago stick around? Sure, we still win. Let better teams stick around? We get 13 seconds. We get that debacle against Minny. That’s where this team is headed.

Except the Bills have NOT been "playing poorly week after week against subpar competition”. How tiresome. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong almost all the time???

Josh Allen knows what he is talking about....you don’t.

[OpIv37]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Except the Bills have NOT been "playing poorly week after week against subpar competition”. How tiresome. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong almost all the time???

Josh Allen knows what he is talking about....you don’t.

Yes, they have. You’re one of the few who doesn’t see it.

[Oaf]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Certain fans understand that playing poorly week after week against subpar competition doesn’t bode well once we start having to play playoff teams.
This team lacks that killer instinct. And I’m not the only one saying this. Go back and look at the gameday threads and you’ll see plenty of people complaining about how this team can’t put opponents away.

Have you looked at the Chiefs' wins? Guessing you'd power rank them over us, wouldn't you?

[notacon]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

I agree, a field goal that just makes it over the crossbar is still worth 3 points, a home run that bounces on the wall and goes over is still a HR. They don’t put it anywhere on the stat sheet but made field goal and home run.

Pretty doesn’t matter!

There are no style points in NFL football.

Opi, being such a big college football fan (of the perennially middling Notre Dame “Lay-down” Irish”) is too deep into the way college football is heavily tilted toward style points, with their rankings and bullcrap “playoffs” that are not really playoffs at all.

With the vast differences in talent between college teams and especially within each team, where a handful of elite players dominate the (mostly, relatively) crappy players that get free ride for college (85 scholarships allowed is JOKE and invites and causes a majority of the players not being even close to high quality much less elite) when they deserve nothing of the sort.....if you are ranked highly, and you play a team that is not ranked highly and you DON’T blow them out of the stadium, it counts AGAINST you.

I don’t like college football, and never have. It’s about a few players running rings around the mostly (comparatively) slugs....since the competiton level is so disparate.

NFL football is a whole different thing. The worst NFL players are the best of the best of the tens of thousands of college players....the 259 that are drafted (and the relative few that are signed without getting drafted) are by definition the ELITE of the ELITE in all of college football.


ANY team can, and DO beat any other team. That’s exactly the way the NFL wants it, and why NFL football is, by far, the best sport for fans.

[notacon]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Yes, they have. You’re one of the few who doesn’t see it.

No, they haven’t. You're one of the few that does “see it”....and you do not have any idea what you are talking about.

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Maybe we can make yet another thread about this.

[notacon]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

Maybe we can make yet another thread about this.

It really comes down to this....

The Buffalo Bills, through a much needed change in ownership that (eventually) put into place a professional football operation for probably the first time in the Bills franchise history.....facilitated by the hiring of Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane and the drafting and development (thank you Brian Daboll) of Josh Allen......


.....have produced a “culture of winning” that has been the major point of emphasis from McDermott and the whole organization, that has been largely realized (despite not winning a SB...yet).....Opi is the antithesis of that culture and is stuck in the “culture of losing” as a hangover from the “drought” that he refuses to shake and to grow out of and get over.

It’s sad....for him. And an attitude that stars like Josh Allen absolutely rejects, and would scoff at and totally ignore. We should take Josh’s lead.

[Margarita]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

There are no style points in NFL football.

NFL football is a whole different thing. The worst NFL players are the best of the best of the tens of thousands of college players....the 259 that are drafted (and the relative few that are signed without getting drafted) are by definition the ELITE of the ELITE in all of college football.


ANY team can, and DO beat any other team. That’s exactly the way the NFL wants it, and why NFL football is, by far, the best sport for fans.

In my marriage hubby is 1000% fighting irish fan. I decided years ago it was way too much work to follow both the Bills AND Notre Dame football. But I can refer anyone who wants it Fighting Irish sports podcasts/media etc He is the biggest Domer EVER

I bolded the portion regarding the NFL because I agree with all that he wrote YEP.

[OpIv37]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

It really comes down to this....

The Buffalo Bills, through a much needed change in ownership that (eventually) put into place a professional football operation for probably the first time in the Bills franchise history.....facilitated by the hiring of Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane and the drafting and development (thank you Brian Daboll) of Josh Allen......


.....have produced a “culture of winning” that has been the major point of emphasis from McDermott and the whole organization, that has been largely realized (despite not winning a SB...yet).....Opi is the antithesis of that culture and is stuck in the “culture of losing” as a hangover from the “drought” that he refuses to shake and to grow out of and get over.

It’s sad....for him. And an attitude that stars like Josh Allen absolutely rejects, and would scoff at and totally ignore. We should take Josh’s lead.

No you shouldn’t. The mentality for fans does not have to be the same as the mentality of players. And if you can’t see the difference between how the team played before the bye and how they’ve played since, you aren’t paying attention.

[Chet]

Re: Josh Allen: “It’s Not About How You Win, It’s If You Win”

If he keeps winning and we get the #1 seed—no matter how ugly—then I’ll agree. If we lose, then it’ll be comeuppance for our mistake-riddled, inconsistent and uninspired play since the bye.