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Skooby
01-01-2023, 04:27 PM
Go Bills !!

Buffalogic
01-01-2023, 06:03 PM
34-20 bills

YardRat
01-01-2023, 11:42 PM
:gobills:

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 12:27 AM
GO BILLS!!!!!!

Novacane
01-02-2023, 12:31 AM
It's going to be a long day. Go Bills!

Woodman
01-02-2023, 01:05 AM
Go Bills!

Woodman
01-02-2023, 01:25 AM
Cincinnati weather for tonight.
60 with very light SSE @ 4 miles an hour wind and some showers.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:26 AM
Feeing confident about this one.

Bills 48
Bengals 17

Saratoga Slim
01-02-2023, 02:47 AM
Cincinnati weather for tonight.
60 with very light SSE @ 4 miles an hour wind and some showers.

That's going to feel like Hawaii to our guys

Saratoga Slim
01-02-2023, 02:50 AM
Really want to see our defense step up and punch Cincy in the face after all the trash talking the Bengals were doing this week. It's been a while since we've had so much bulletin board material. Maybe getting called out is what finally unleashes Edmunds' inner beastmode.

If the D can hold Cincy to less than 28 points we win this. I trust Josh and Co. to put up 30 in primetime, with 60 degrees and essentially no wind.

bleve
01-02-2023, 03:00 AM
Go Bills!

cookie G
01-02-2023, 04:11 AM
I don't see it as the "must win" that everyone is crying about.

Coming out of it injury free is more important.

Saratoga Slim
01-02-2023, 04:27 AM
I don't see it as the "must win" that everyone is crying about.

Coming out of it injury free is more important.

It's not 'must win,' but our road to the SB is MUCH easier if we do, in that:

- We'll have home field throughout the playoffs. Note that we have not won a road playoff game in the McDermott era.
- We won't play KC or the Bengals until the AFC championship. If we lose tonight, in a best case scenario we would have to play at Cincy in the Division round, and at KC in the AFC championship
- A 1st round bye gets guys like Josh, Poyer, Milano and Phillips a chance to get closer to full health - all those guys are nursing impactful injuries.

cookie G
01-02-2023, 05:09 AM
It's not 'must win,' but our road to the SB is MUCH easier if we do, in that:

- We'll have home field throughout the playoffs. Note that we have not won a road playoff game in the McDermott era.
- We won't play KC or the Bengals until the AFC championship. If we lose tonight, in a best case scenario we would have to play at Cincy in the Division round, and at KC in the AFC championship
- A 1st round bye gets guys like Josh, Poyer, Milano and Phillips a chance to get closer to full health - all those guys are nursing impactful injuries.

Yeah, I know about the playoff scenarios and am considering it. But I also know that when they are healthy and things are clicking, they can beat anyone, anywhere.

If their line is banged up, of if the secondary gets hurt again, I'm not so confident. And that's not even mentioning potential injuries to key players.

Joe Fo Sho
01-02-2023, 05:25 AM
- We'll have home field throughout the playoffs. Note that we have not won a road playoff game in the McDermott era.

We also have not lost a home playoff game in the McDermott era.

Mace
01-02-2023, 05:28 AM
Uh oh, Bengals 34, Bills 24.

Saratoga Slim
01-02-2023, 05:51 AM
Yeah, I know about the playoff scenarios and am considering it. But I also know that when they are healthy and things are clicking, they can beat anyone, anywhere.

If their line is banged up, of if the secondary gets hurt again, I'm not so confident. And that's not even mentioning potential injuries to key players.

True enough. Whatever happens tonight, we do still have a good shot. Let's just make that shot a layup instead of a three.

Typ0
01-02-2023, 06:19 AM
Getting to this point and winning this game is the goal. This is a must win on the path to achievement. Winning tonight's game is another step for McDermott and Beane--a step they have been working towards for several years. For the team that will hit the field it's just another game but for the franchise putting up a W tonight is monumental. The game is bigger than the game and that is where the must win comes in.

Then there is the symptom of the win that equals control. The team puts themselves in a really good spot with a W where an L brings a lot of adversity. **** that. These guys pave their way tonight.

Historian
01-02-2023, 06:27 AM
Bills 27
Bungholes 31

Relegated to third.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 06:41 AM
Bills 89

Bengals -5

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-02-2023, 06:46 AM
This is a great way to celebrate my 30th anniversary with me sweetheart. Of note is the 30th anniversary of the “comeback game” against the oilers. We were opening wedding presents listening on the radio. One last gift was a certificate to that large wine store on Delaware in Kenmore. We were in the parking lot listening to the unreal last few scores. Still the greatest comeback … in the playoffs.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 07:54 AM
Congratulations!

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 07:55 AM
The Bills winning tonight make next weeks…

KC/Raiders
Buffalo/New England
Cincy/Baltimore
Jets//Miami
Pitts/Cleveland

…games have more meaning. The Bills will win tonight.

imbondz
01-02-2023, 08:35 AM
Just had my first nervous want to puke feeling. LETS GO BUFFALO!!!!!! WE GOT THIS!!!!

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 08:38 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elevated WR Cole Beasley and OL Alec Anderson for tonight’s game at Cincinnati.</p>&mdash; Buffalo Bills PR (@BuffaloBillsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1610025653579190278?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 08:44 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is absolutely gorgeous here at Paycor Stadium. Currently 61°! No wind whatsoever. <br><br>It will rain during the game. Questions are exactly when and how much. <a href="https://t.co/U57kqLpPwJ">pic.twitter.com/U57kqLpPwJ</a></p>&mdash; Sal Capaccio �� (@SalSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/1610027088806924293?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mace
01-02-2023, 08:51 AM
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I guess I don't really get why they're ping ponging Beasley and he's playing in the games. Am I missing something ?<iframe scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.644279d1635fd969e87af94a98bd232b.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billszone.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 08:57 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elevated WR Cole Beasley and OL Alec Anderson for tonight’s game at Cincinnati.</p>— Buffalo Bills PR (@BuffaloBillsPR) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBillsPR/status/1610025653579190278?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This will be Beasley's 3rd call up- so unless there's different rules for the playoffs... he'd have to be signed to the "53-man roster" after today...

Novacane
01-02-2023, 10:02 AM
Just had my first nervous want to puke feeling. LETS GO BUFFALO!!!!!! WE GOT THIS!!!!

I kept so busy today that I didn't think about it much. Now that I'm done working. :puke:

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 10:19 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, <a href="https://twitter.com/richeisen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@richeisen</a> asked <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshAllenQB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoshAllenQB</a> to change any rule in the NFL and create his own and, boy, did he go out of the box. What do you think of his idea? <a href="https://t.co/K9KQzTSanV">pic.twitter.com/K9KQzTSanV</a></p>&mdash; Rich Eisen Show (@RichEisenShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1610031906493698049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Pink
01-02-2023, 10:20 AM
Tonight should be a fun game to watch.

2 of the top 5 teams in the NFL squaring off on a Monday Night this late in the season?

Absolutely brilliant on the schedulemakers part

swiper
01-02-2023, 10:23 AM
I don't see it as the "must win" that everyone is crying about.

Coming out of it injury free is more important.

How can you not?

Lose and they likely place 3. Win and they will (likely) be #1 with home field advantage and a bye. Play everyone all game.

What's at stake in Monday’s Bills-Bengals matchup (https://www.audacy.com/wgr550/sports/bills/whats-at-stake-in-mondays-bills-bengals-matchup)

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 10:24 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tre’Davious White one of the first <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> players out on the field pregame. <a href="https://t.co/c85FtyZnpJ">pic.twitter.com/c85FtyZnpJ</a></p>&mdash; Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1610041216510427148?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

swiper
01-02-2023, 10:26 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, <a href="https://twitter.com/richeisen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@richeisen</a> asked <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshAllenQB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoshAllenQB</a> to change any rule in the NFL and create his own and, boy, did he go out of the box. What do you think of his idea? <a href="https://t.co/K9KQzTSanV">pic.twitter.com/K9KQzTSanV</a></p>— Rich Eisen Show (@RichEisenShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1610031906493698049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is great on Josh's part.

swiper
01-02-2023, 10:30 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jordan Poyer WILL play tonight according to reports.<br><br>the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> are undefeated this season when he is in the lineup. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/billsmafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#billsmafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/gWotx9W7Rt">pic.twitter.com/gWotx9W7Rt</a></p>&mdash; Jenna Cottrell (@JennaCottrell) <a href="https://twitter.com/JennaCottrell/status/1609992320958488578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 10:32 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nyheim Hines also has family on his mind when taking the field.<br><br>&quot;Just watching my mom, who raced me before, struggle to walk.&quot;<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> RB opens up about her fight with muscular dystrophy.<a href="https://t.co/Zk9xOa0Czw">https://t.co/Zk9xOa0Czw</a></p>&mdash; Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1609977536142008320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 10:34 AM
Nice article

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Before kick-off tonight, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> special teams coordinator Matthew Smiley won&#39;t be thinking about football.<br><br>He&#39;ll remember his time in the Air Force while singing the national anthem<br><br>&quot;That&#39;s a big deal what they choose to do so that perspective is real.&quot;<a href="https://t.co/5u2w0Aczl8">https://t.co/5u2w0Aczl8</a></p>&mdash; Jon Scott (@JonScottTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonScottTV/status/1609977538302078978?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

sukie
01-02-2023, 10:38 AM
Many a talking head picking Bengals…

Cali512
01-02-2023, 10:51 AM
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One of the most reckless QBs in the nfl wants 2 of the most reckless rule changes that can happen lol<iframe scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.644279d1635fd969e87af94a98bd232b.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billszone.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" title="Twitter analytics iframe" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none;"></iframe>

swiper
01-02-2023, 10:55 AM
Many a talking head picking Bengals…

Bills have not lost any game that Poyer played in. He's playing tonight.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 10:57 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Locked in. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BUFvsCIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BUFvsCIN</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/q0DeZgAyex">pic.twitter.com/q0DeZgAyex</a></p>&mdash; Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1610060070502424576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Monday night drip. ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BUFvsCIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BUFvsCIN</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BillsMafia?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BillsMafia</a> <a href="https://t.co/nKknSJ93t5">pic.twitter.com/nKknSJ93t5</a></p>&mdash; Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1610057573838766080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 11:10 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bengals DE Sam Hubbard is out for tonight vs Bills, per source.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1610055085647601664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 11:15 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight’s inactives. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BUFvsCIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BUFvsCIN</a> <a href="https://t.co/KU6Qvaei6u">pic.twitter.com/KU6Qvaei6u</a></p>&mdash; Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1610063393234509825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 11:18 AM
Week 17 Cincinnati Bengals Inactives

6 QB Jake Browning

25 HB Chris Evans

35 CB Jalen Davis

79 G Jackson Carman

94 DE Sam Hubbard

97 DT Jay Tufele

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Mace
01-02-2023, 11:24 AM
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Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 11:27 AM
Why would they elevate Anderson from the practice squad to scratch him ?<iframe scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.644279d1635fd969e87af94a98bd232b.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billszone.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe>

One of the Bills reporters was speculating (on twitter) that it might be a "reward" for all of his hard work. Since he was elevated, he'd get a bigger check. :idunno:

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 11:29 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills safety Jordan Poyer seems to be moving well pregame. He’s dealing with a knee injury. <a href="https://t.co/fA2BnpUMuY">pic.twitter.com/fA2BnpUMuY</a></p>&mdash; Josh Reed (@4JoshReed) <a href="https://twitter.com/4JoshReed/status/1610060312278929409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kscdogbillsfan1221
01-02-2023, 12:48 PM
Why call that timeout Sean??

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 12:48 PM
White is not the same player he wa pre-injury.

Blown coverage, a penalty and a wasted timeout in the first 5 min…

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At least Diggs is involved.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 12:49 PM
White is not the same player he wa pre-injury.

Blown coverage, a penalty and a wasted timeout in the first 5 min…

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At least Diggs is involved.

He's a shell of himself.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 12:49 PM
Bengals starting on the front foot, taking the ball and scoring straight away. Bills moving well though to counter.

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Why call that timeout Sean??

Josh seemed pissed off with the call too.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:50 PM
Zone back?

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I like this Cook guy

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:51 PM
Zone wasnt working 1st series.

What a lame penalty on Tre and a missed hold on the TD.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 12:51 PM
Don’t give upon the run. It’s actually been working the last few games.

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Zone wasnt working 1st series.

What a lame penalty on Tre and a missed hold on the TD.

Tre definitely grabbed but I agree on the missed hold on the TD.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:52 PM
Come on Beas.

kscdogbillsfan1221
01-02-2023, 12:52 PM
Damn cole

Novacane
01-02-2023, 12:53 PM
2nd down call was idiotic. Why not just give the ball to Cook again.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 12:53 PM
White is not the same player he wa pre-injury.

Blown coverage, a penalty and a wasted timeout in the first 5 min…

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At least Diggs is involved.
Add a drop to the list of mistakes in just over half a quarter.

They aren’t going to beat a team as good as the Bengals in their house with this many mistakes this early.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 12:53 PM
Throw was high to Cole, but he has to catch that.

imbondz
01-02-2023, 12:53 PM
Not a great start but good first drive just didn’t punch it in.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:55 PM
Cheap roll into Josh by that Bengal.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 12:56 PM
You all can rage on Cole all you want, the was on Josh!

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 12:57 PM
****ing injuries

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:57 PM
Going to need a pass rush to beat Bengals

kscdogbillsfan1221
01-02-2023, 12:58 PM
These ****ing injuries

imbondz
01-02-2023, 12:58 PM
*******

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 12:58 PM
Injuries at the worst time.

Mace
01-02-2023, 12:58 PM
Oh, this defense.....

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 12:59 PM
Hamlin got up right after tackle. Not sure why hes down.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 12:59 PM
I bet it was a crack back block that wasn’t called.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:00 PM
Concussion?

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:01 PM
That was scary looking the way he fell down.

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Concussion?



Looked like it.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:01 PM
I bet it was a crack back block that wasn’t called.

Missed it.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:02 PM
Stay positive….stay positive….stay positive….

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:02 PM
Going to need a pass rush to beat Bengals

Frazier will need to adjust…that might be a problem for us.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:02 PM
Down 2 in secondary already. Looks like Bills are going to have to scire touchdowns the rest of the way.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 01:02 PM
I bet it was a crack back block that wasn’t called.

Wow I guess not, that’s scary especially with McD praying.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
Stay positive….stay positive….stay positive….

I'd prefer you be yourself. It's been working.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
Stay positive….stay positive….stay positive….

He got up first which you would think is a great sign. Hopefully “just” a concussion.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
Think this is bad.

Cali512
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
It doesnt look good that josh wasnt out there to see hamlin. I hope both are okay, hamlins was very scary

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
Cheap roll into Josh by that Bengal.

And the drive to the turf block on TJ was cheap af, too.

imbondz
01-02-2023, 01:03 PM
We can’t have nice things

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:04 PM
Team is completely shaken. Going to take A LOT to come back from that. Minds may not be in it.

Cali512
01-02-2023, 01:04 PM
Okay, damn they look shook

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:04 PM
Guys are crying. This feels really bad.

YardRat
01-02-2023, 01:06 PM
I don't think I've ever seen reactions like that from players. Yeesh.

Ingtar33
01-02-2023, 01:06 PM
might be a neck/spine injury... they wouldn't take this long on a concussion. even if he was out cold.


i hope not, everyone in football has heard that one nightmare story about the guy who got into a light hit, didn't know he broke his neck, turned his head, and dropped dead on the spot. I'm praying right now, that we didn't just see that.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:06 PM
This is not good.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:06 PM
While we wait, just for discussion if tonight doesn’t go well, do you think the Bills might consider just taking the three seed and resting players?

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:07 PM
Okay, damn they look shook

Players always do though. They obviously don’t want their teammate to be injured and they know that it could just as easily be them in that same position.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 01:07 PM
Holy hell

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
Goddamnit, just let him be alright. Please let him be alright.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
This is heartbreaking. God please touch him. I don't care about this game anymore.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
Players always do though. They obviously don’t want their teammate to be injured and they know that it could just as easily be them in that same position.

Not sure I’ve seen this type of emotions before.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
CPR? Oh no. That’s not good at all. Prayers.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
Holy hell

CPR?! Fack!

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 01:08 PM
might be a neck/spine injury... they wouldn't take this long on a concussion. even if he was out cold.

I've been reading on twitter, that they're doing CPR. And they just announced that on the broadcast

swiper
01-02-2023, 01:09 PM
This doesn't look good. CPR for 9+ minutes out on the field. Pray to God Hamlin is ok.

Ingtar33
01-02-2023, 01:10 PM
I've been reading on twitter, that they're doing CPR. And they just announced that on the broadcast

****... everyone in football has heard that one nightmare story about the guy who got into a light hit, didn't know he broke his neck, turned his head, and dropped dead on the spot. I'm praying right now, that we didn't just see that.

YardRat
01-02-2023, 01:10 PM
I've never heard of cpr on the field.

imbondz
01-02-2023, 01:11 PM
Awful

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:11 PM
Would they call the game off for something like this? Any precedent?

imbondz
01-02-2023, 01:12 PM
Have to call the game.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:13 PM
I've never heard of cpr on the field.

When they first ran to him I thought it looked like they were giving him cpr.

swiper
01-02-2023, 01:13 PM
Thought the same about calling the game.

Never heard of CPR on the field. 9+ minutes is quite a bit of time. Usually they call a code off after 20 minutes of CPR of so.

You have to be scared for the guy.

I remember Darryl Stingley. I don't recall anything quite like this.

Ingtar33
01-02-2023, 01:13 PM
I'm gonna go hug my kids. i didn't think this would hit me this hard. I coach kids younger then this, and this is my every nightmare. sorry. i'm gonna dip for a while.

Woodman
01-02-2023, 01:14 PM
just terrible.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:15 PM
Would they call the game off for something like this? Any precedent?

I hope so. No one from either team is going to have their heads in the game now.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 01:15 PM
I've never heard of cpr on the field.

Never

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 01:15 PM
Have to call the game.

They never will. This game is too important to the AFC bye, and the NFL has shown time and time again that they don’t give a flying **** about player Safety when money is on the line.

kgun12
01-02-2023, 01:16 PM
Would they call the game off for something like this? Any precedent?

I agree, if I’m the Bills I forfeit this game and go home.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:17 PM
Man. How do they turn it back on?

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:17 PM
Looks like they are going to play on.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:18 PM
They never will. This game is too important to the AFC bye, and the NFL has shown time and time again that they don’t give a flying **** about player Safety when money is on the line.



You're right and this is bull****. I'd be ok with the Bills forfeiting. I just a game.

kscdogbillsfan1221
01-02-2023, 01:18 PM
**** the one seed
**** the game
I’m good with forfeiting

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:19 PM
Game suspended

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:20 PM
The NFL needs to do the right thing. For once do the right thing Goodell.

swiper
01-02-2023, 01:20 PM
Never expected anything like this. Temporary suspension of the game. So terrible. Players look stunned.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:21 PM
Has a started game ever been postponed and restarted on another day?

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:22 PM
Are there any rules for a game being called off for something like this? Don’t want either team to feel like they have to come back out for this.

Gibby 2.0
01-02-2023, 01:22 PM
You know what, **** it. Only thing I care about is Damar. Forfeit the game and come home

Woodman
01-02-2023, 01:23 PM
suspended for right now.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:23 PM
Booger made me cry.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 01:23 PM
**** the one seed
**** the game
I’m good with forfeiting

Is there a rule that allows a forfeit? I honestly have no idea.

Canadian'eh!
01-02-2023, 01:24 PM
Watching it unfold. He got up. Collapsed.

im hoping to hell that this isn’t from head or neck. That would be very very bad for survival odds. Traumatic arrest is hard to survive.

cardiac is more survivable. AFib responds to AED most times. That’s a better scenario that traumatic arrest. Still awful but hoping for that versus spinal cord.

I’ve seen it in hockey a few times. Soccer.

Mace
01-02-2023, 01:25 PM
ambulance still in the parking lot, they're getting his mom from the stands.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:26 PM
ambulance still in the parking lot, they're getting his mom from the stands.

Waiting for life flight?

Mace
01-02-2023, 01:27 PM
has a pulse, not breathing on his own, aed and cpr on the field, being transported to trauma center

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:27 PM
Watching it unfold. He got up. Collapsed.

im hoping to hell that this isn’t from head or neck. That would be very very bad for survival odds. Traumatic arrest is hard to survive.

cardiac is more survivable. AFib responds to AED most times. That’s a better scenario that traumatic arrest. Still awful but hoping for that versus spinal cord.

I’ve seen it in hockey a few times. Soccer.
Thought about Christian Erikson when this started to become serious. Hopeful Damar is just as fortunate.

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-02-2023, 01:27 PM
ambulance still in the parking lot, they're getting his mom from the stands.

Ugh. Such sadness

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 01:29 PM
SHUT THE F UP SUZY YOU STUPID BEACH

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:30 PM
Per Cincy Sports Reporter Hamlin has a pulse, needed CPR and AED but he is not breathing on his own.

https://twitter.com/fox19joe/status/1610098849636388870?s=46&t=AlG0QWIgFiLfGUBnzTw-vQ

Lecter found this.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:31 PM
SHUT THE F UP SUZY YOU STUPID BEACH

Free pass, I doubt any of them are coached on how to handle breaks like this. She’s trying to be respectful, all she can do.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 01:31 PM
ambulance still in the parking lot, they're getting his mom from the stands.

Wtf? Give his mom a police escort or something. Don’t delay getting him to the hospital for this

YardRat
01-02-2023, 01:31 PM
Police escort, ambulance on way to UC.

Canadian'eh!
01-02-2023, 01:32 PM
Thought about Christian Erikson when this started to become serious. Hopeful Damar is just as fortunate.
Suzy Kolber needs to shut up. She is trying to make it more dramatic.

Jiri Fischer was terrifying.

Mace
01-02-2023, 01:32 PM
Per Cincy Sports Reporter Hamlin has a pulse, needed CPR and AED but he is not breathing on his own.

https://twitter.com/fox19joe/status/1610098849636388870?s=46&t=AlG0QWIgFiLfGUBnzTw-vQ

Lecter found this.

Already said that but thanks for the link.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:32 PM
You know what, **** it. Only thing I care about is Damar. Forfeit the game and come home

There's no way the Bills come back out.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:34 PM
Already said that but thanks for the link.
Didn’t see it, but thanks for posting.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 01:35 PM
There’s no way they play this game

kgun12
01-02-2023, 01:36 PM
My son just posted fox sport put out he has a pulse but is not breathing on his own.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:37 PM
Goodell needs to get on TV now and announced the game is cancelled, forgotten, forfeited, I don’t give a ****. Show some ****ing leadership you coward.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:38 PM
Goodell is going to have to call this game whether he wants to or not or else look like the evil emporer.

im ok with that

tomz
01-02-2023, 01:39 PM
Booger made me cry.

Me too man. He could barely talk.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 01:39 PM
Goodell needs to get on TV now and announced the game is cancelled, forgotten, forfeited, I don’t give a ****. Show some ****ing leadership you coward.

Amen. Cancel the game for now at least.

Mace
01-02-2023, 01:39 PM
I don't even know what to say. Thoughts and prayers for Damar Hamlin.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:40 PM
Players can't play like this. For their safety, Goodell must call it.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 01:40 PM
Goodell needs to get on TV now and announced the game is cancelled, forgotten, forfeited, I don’t give a ****. Show some ****ing leadership you coward.

I’ll be shocked if he actually does the right thing. He’s gonna make them finish.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:40 PM
Me too man. He could barely talk.

The look on McD’s face immediately after did me in. Coach gotta stay positive at all times, so when THEY break down, that’s when you know.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:40 PM
In this moment, I want to commend Zac Taylor for being the one to take the initiative and get with McDermott and say they wouldn’t continue.

Whoever suggested a five minute delay should be ****ing fired already.

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:41 PM
I’ll be shocked if he actually does the right thing. He’s gonna make them finish.
I’m afraid you might be right.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 01:41 PM
If I’m McDermott, I load the players on the bus and go to the hospital. Who cares if you forfeit.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:42 PM
In this moment, I want to commend Zac Taylor for being the one to take the initiative and get with McDermott and say they wouldn’t continue.

Whoever suggested a five minute delay should be ****ing fired already.

They said that came from corporate. Goodell?

Billscusey
01-02-2023, 01:43 PM
In this moment, I want to commend Zac Taylor for being the one to take the initiative and get with McDermott and say they wouldn’t continue.

Whoever suggested a five minute delay should be ****ing fired already.

Yup, good dude Taylor.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 01:43 PM
Goodell needs to get on TV now and announced the game is cancelled, forgotten, forfeited, I don’t give a ****. Show some ****ing leadership you coward.


McD would probably have to tell them to all go to hell, before Goodell did that.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 01:43 PM
Goodell needs to get on TV now and announced the game is cancelled, forgotten, forfeited, I don’t give a ****. Show some ****ing leadership you coward.


In this moment, I want to commend Zac Taylor for being the one to take the initiative and get with McDermott and say they wouldn’t continue.

Whoever suggested a five minute delay should be ****ing fired already.

I’m sure the players also said f this we aren’t going out there. Nobody on either team looked like they cared about playing

YardRat
01-02-2023, 01:44 PM
In this moment, I want to commend Zac Taylor for being the one to take the initiative and get with McDermott and say they wouldn’t continue.

Whoever suggested a five minute delay should be ****ing fired already.

Hadn't heard that.


If I’m McDermott, I load the players on the bus and go to the hospital. Who cares if you forfeit.

That could be the call, it's what a family might do.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 01:44 PM
They said that came from corporate. Goodell?

That was my understanding

Goobylal
01-02-2023, 01:44 PM
Cancelling it is the right thing to do and at this point, does anyone really care about the game anyway?

Novacane
01-02-2023, 01:44 PM
I don't think either team would take the field if Goodell told them to. Just cancel the damn game.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:49 PM
Every second that this game continues to be delayed without being canceled is a terrible look on Goodell. Just disgusting.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 01:54 PM
Sean,

If Goddell won’t do the right thing here then I need you to just forfeit the game. This game is not worth this.

Thanks

kgun12
01-02-2023, 01:55 PM
I’ve told you guys I watch these games without any emotional ties, but I gotta tell you I am a wreak! After years of watching football and watching my son play for so many years this is hitting me hard. Please pray for this young man and his family.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:56 PM
Game is over.

Mace
01-02-2023, 01:56 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hughes

He died on the field, they finished the game in 1971.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 01:56 PM
Lb for lb, Hamlin is the biggest hitter on the team.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 01:57 PM
Looks like the unofficial decision has been made

YardRat
01-02-2023, 01:58 PM
Equipment being removed from sideline. Just a matter of if it's postponed or forfeited.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 01:58 PM
**** Goodell and the league.



Not sure why you are blaming anyone.

This is about Hamlin. :pray:

The game is over.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 02:01 PM
Not sure why you are blaming anyone.

The game is over.

The league waited as long as they could hoping to get good news about Hamlin so they didn’t have to disrupt their playoff plans. That was all they cared about. But the good news hasn’t come yet. Hopefully it will but that was never the league’s real concern.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 02:02 PM
Cancelling it is the right thing to do and at this point, does anyone really care about the game anyway?

Well, there's a small percentage that does - but THEY don't matter at this point either.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 02:02 PM
The league waited as long as they could hoping to get good news about Hamlin so they didn’t have to disrupt their playoff plans. That was all they cared about. But the good news hasn’t come yet. Hopefully it will but that was never the league’s real concern.

Yep, they waited, took the teams off the field, now are postponing the game. They didn’t tell the players to get back on the field and play. They did right thing.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 02:04 PM
At this rate, the lights are going to get turned off before Goodell calls it.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 02:04 PM
Yep, they waited, took the teams off the field, now are postponing the game. They didn’t tell the players to get back on the field and play. They did right thing.

I think it was the coaches that told the League it wasn't happening.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 02:04 PM
At this rate, the lights are going to get turned off before Goodell calls it.

Its called already.

Mace
01-02-2023, 02:06 PM
I think it was the coaches that told the League it wasn't happening.

Was probably mutual, imho.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 02:07 PM
Critical condition:pray:

BillsOwnAll
01-02-2023, 02:08 PM
Jesus. People hating godell for waiting 45 min to cancel the game?

Give the man a break. Let him gather facts. Talk to the coaches..

Is he supposed to make a descion 4 minutes after something traurmatic happens? Grow up. Keyboard warriors.

ParanoidAndroid
01-02-2023, 02:10 PM
Let's just chill out and pray for Damar.

Mace
01-02-2023, 02:12 PM
Critical condition:pray:
https://twitter.com/FOX19Tricia/status/1610106980005191689?cxt=HHwWkoCxmZDxn9gsAAAA

Jaydog57
01-02-2023, 02:15 PM
Man I hope he's alright, he went down fast; football can wait. :peace:

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 02:19 PM
Man. Every one involved is breaking up. Lisa Salters can barely keep it together

THE END OF ALL DAYS
01-02-2023, 02:21 PM
I seriously dont know how this can even be resolved. Hamlin is the only thing that matters, but there is no place to redo this game anywhere anytime.

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 02:22 PM
I seriously dont know how this can even be resolved. Hamlin is the only thing that matters, but there is no place to redo this game anywhere anytime.

Take the L.

Typ0
01-02-2023, 02:23 PM
This has been a season from hell for the Bills.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 02:24 PM
Take the L.


that’s a near impossibility

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 02:24 PM
This has been a season from hell for the Bills.

From the Topps shooting to this. Unreal season.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 02:25 PM
From the Topps shooting to this. Unreal season.

One thing after another.

WTF haven’t the Bills suffered enough

Hamlin #3 :pray:

sahlensguy
01-02-2023, 02:34 PM
One thing after another.

WTF haven’t the Bills suffered enough

Hamlin #3 :pray:

He has my utmost respect. Hardest hitting mofo didn't deserve this.

swiper
01-02-2023, 02:36 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hughes

He died on the field, they finished the game in 1971.

My brother sent this to me.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 02:44 PM
They said on ESPN that a medical update from the hospital was going to be provided shortly

Bill Cody
01-02-2023, 02:45 PM
Listening to Dr Vin Gupta talking about what he thinks is likely based on the tape

Dr. Lecter
01-02-2023, 02:48 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update on Damar:<br><br>His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests. <br><br>We will provide updates as we have them.</p>&mdash; Jordon Rooney (@jordonr) <a href="https://twitter.com/jordonr/status/1610116502845558784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bill Cody
01-02-2023, 02:50 PM
He thinks it was probably heart related
and the key is whether he got defibbed quickly.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 02:52 PM
He thinks it was probably heart related
and the key is whether he got defibbed quickly.

I heard/read that they used the AED as well as CPR on him.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 02:55 PM
Please Mods. He refuses to back down. A TO for the night is more than called for at this point.

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-02-2023, 02:57 PM
Yeah a TO

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 02:58 PM
......


Take it to THIS THREAD (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/262176-Op-s-rant-against-Goodell-amp-the-NFL)

Woodman
01-02-2023, 03:00 PM
I was at a game in 1965 Mack Lee Hill of the KC Chiefs was a running back for the Chiefs.

He took a vicious hit ..... he got hit high and low on the play.

Everybody knew it was bad but it was so incredibly shocking when the news broke of what followed two short days later.

That's what I remembered .... below I linked the wikipedia details of the play and results directly related I was 14 at the time.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill


Hill tore a ligament in his right knee in a regular season game against the Bills on December 12, forcing him to undergo season-ending surgery on that knee two days later at Menorah Medical Center (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menorah_Medical_Center) in Kansas City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City,_Missouri).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-lwjmlhl-2) He was still on the operating table when his temperature suddenly spiked to 108 °F (42 °C), triggering severe convulsions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convulsion), and he died 1+1⁄2 hours after surgery. Doctors said he suffered a "sudden and massive embolism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embolism)."[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-lwjmlhl-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-ap-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-4)
+1⁄2 hours after surgery. Doctors said he suffered a "sudden and massive embolism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embolism)."[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-lwjmlhl-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-ap-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Lee_Hill#cite_note-4)

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 03:07 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">❤️�� <a href="https://t.co/yTZzQs0QAp">pic.twitter.com/yTZzQs0QAp</a></p>&mdash; Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) <a href="https://twitter.com/BuffaloBills/status/1610117438347018240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

YardRat
01-02-2023, 03:08 PM
Team is allegedly flying home tonight.

Mike13
01-02-2023, 03:10 PM
Just heard the news, i hope you pull through Damar Hamlin

What happened exactly? He just collapsed? Was it a hit to the head?

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 03:11 PM
Team is allegedly flying home tonight.

I think the bus will be pulling up to the hospital first.

Bill Cody
01-02-2023, 03:12 PM
I heard/read that they used the AED as well as CPR on him.

Lot we don’t know yet but his vitals returning to normal is a good sign

Mace
01-02-2023, 03:12 PM
He thinks it was probably heart related
and the key is whether he got defibbed quickly.

Fencing response is head/neck related. When he fell down, he had a fencing response. Severe enough spinal injury affects heart and lungs.

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 03:14 PM
Diggs at the hospital

Novacane
01-02-2023, 03:15 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive?fbclid=IwAR1GoJ9OPw6VVxeDQpAbLuLwDpmbKRmhYOwf8z86Pwu8cN8_fWObbO8mxlw

TacklingDummy
01-02-2023, 03:16 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive?fbclid=IwAR1GoJ9OPw6VVxeDQpAbLuLwDpmbKRmhYOwf8z86Pwu8cN8_fWObbO8mxlw

The people on ebay profitting off Hamlin should donate all that money to it. Last i looked one of his rookie auots is going for $25k.

DraftBoy
01-02-2023, 03:17 PM
The larger issue can wait, right now it’s just about making sure Demar is ok. Giving it a night is not letting Goddell off in any way.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 03:18 PM
Just heard the news, i hope you pull through Damar Hamlin

What happened exactly? He just collapsed? Was it a hit to the head?

Hard to say. They won't show the replay. Dr's on the news channels are speculation commotio cordis caused by a blow to the chest.

Bill Cody
01-02-2023, 03:20 PM
This is really an unprecedented event. I don’t think an injury has ever required CPR before in an NFL game. And a game has never been canceled/postponed before once started. If Damar recovers the medical response will deserve huge credit. These are highly trained people that are prepared for anything and appear to have acted heroically. Hoping we get more information soon.

imbondz
01-02-2023, 03:22 PM
Hard to say. They won't show the replay. Dr's on the news channels are speculation commotio cordis caused by a blow to the chest.

It was a hard hit but didn’t seem that out of the ordinary. Commotio cordis makes sense

Mike13
01-02-2023, 03:30 PM
Hard to say. They won't show the replay. Dr's on the news channels are speculation commotio cordis caused by a blow to the chest.

Jesus, isn't that how Houdini died?

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 03:31 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you want to learn more about how great of a guy and teammate Damar Hamlin is, here&#39;s an interview Micah Hyde and I did with him about a month ago.<br><br>Damar talks about his opportunity this season and more <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> <a href="https://t.co/ie8Svurdk2">https://t.co/ie8Svurdk2</a> <a href="https://t.co/08USG1zuXT">pic.twitter.com/08USG1zuXT</a></p>&mdash; Maddy Glab (@MadGlab) <a href="https://twitter.com/MadGlab/status/1610130474491432960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 03:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is Damar Hamlin’s bio from the Bills media guide. Please read about how great of a young man he is while you also keep him and his family in your thoughts tonight. <a href="https://t.co/7dbODgq51m">pic.twitter.com/7dbODgq51m</a></p>&mdash; Sal Capaccio �� (@SalSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/1610130622508404736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 03:38 PM
It was a hard hit but didn’t seem that out of the ordinary. Commotio cordis makes sense

i read that as well from a couple of doctors/medical professionals on twitter. Are you a doctor bondz?

Bill Cody
01-02-2023, 03:40 PM
Fencing response is head/neck related. When he fell down, he had a fencing response. Severe enough spinal injury affects heart and lungs.

Dr. Gupta disagrees that is what likely happened. Assuming it is heart related and with the prompt medical response, this is a much better scenario for Demar than anything spinal. I’m very hopeful.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 03:46 PM
Dr. Gupta disagrees that is what likely happened. Assuming it is heart related and with the prompt medical response, this is a much better scenario for Demar than anything spinal. I’m very hopeful.



I'm hopeful too. I am worried about him not breathing for 9 minutes. If he was given oxygen would that preserve his brain function? Anyone know?

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 03:51 PM
Diggs at the hospital

I guess he had to talk his way past the security guard...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stefon Diggs heads to the hospital to be with Demar Hamlin ���������������� <a href="https://t.co/UrQm9Rbs4N">pic.twitter.com/UrQm9Rbs4N</a></p>&mdash; NFL Daily (@SportsContent23) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsContent23/status/1610127490336559105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Woodman
01-02-2023, 03:52 PM
His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests.

This was from my daughter through twitter.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 03:53 PM
I guess he had to talk his way past the security guard...

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Mike13
01-02-2023, 04:00 PM
I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-02-2023, 04:03 PM
https://gofund.me/2bcf043e

I clicked on this and it was at $1.1M no lie just a few minutes later it is 1.2M.

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I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.

Really? I don't understand that. I saw nothing unusual - just a tackle.

Edit - just another 5 minutes and it's 1.3M

Novacane
01-02-2023, 04:04 PM
I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.

That's pathetic.

It was just a normal tackle.

People suck.

Mad Max
01-02-2023, 04:06 PM
I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.

Social media, where decency and common sense so often go to die.

Mr. Pink
01-02-2023, 04:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hughes

He died on the field, they finished the game in 1971.

When it happened and the immediate aftermath, Chuck Hughes is exactly what I thought of.

Hopefully the outcome isn't the same.

Novacane
01-02-2023, 04:08 PM
The play in on you tube now. The contact was to his chest. I guess he could have possibly hit his head when he went down but it looked normal. Hamlin popped right up. Adjusted his helmet then just went limp and fell to the ground.

OpIv37
01-02-2023, 04:09 PM
I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.

Wtf? Higgins did nothing wrong. He just wrestled for extra yards like every ball carrier on every play. Honestly I feel bad for him. It was just a routine play with a bizarre bad outcome. He will carry this on his conscience forever despite doing nothing wrong.

Discotrish
01-02-2023, 04:16 PM
Wtf? Higgins did nothing wrong. He just wrestled for extra yards like every ball carrier on every play. Honestly I feel bad for him. It was just a routine play with a bizarre bad outcome. He will carry this on his conscience forever despite doing nothing wrong.

Some people take their emotions out on a player, some on a commissioner.

Higgins will certainly have the play on his mind, but it shouldn't be on his conscience as there was nothing extraordinary about the play except the outcome.

In Hughes' case he had blocked arteries and it turned out he was a heart attack waiting to happen. It didn't even happen on a play he was directly involved in, he was running his route as a decoy and collapsed as he was trotting back to the huddle after the play.

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 04:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Troy Vincent says they were notified the Bills are heading back to Buffalo tonight...adds a handful of teammates wanted to stay back <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a></p>&mdash; Maddy Glab (@MadGlab) <a href="https://twitter.com/MadGlab/status/1610145284490772484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cntrygal
01-02-2023, 05:01 PM
Very Classy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was told that after the teams were brought back in to wait inside, QB Joe Burrow gathered the Bengals captains and they walked over as a group to the Bills&#39; locker room to check on the Buffalo players.<br><br>In these sorts of situations, NFL players take care of each other.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1610131109454483458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-02-2023, 05:18 PM
$2.7M in the charity now. Crazy

ckg927
01-02-2023, 09:37 PM
$2.7M in the charity now. Crazy

7 News in Buffalo this morning noted that it's currently at $3.174 M.

Lexwhat
01-02-2023, 10:43 PM
I'm hopeful too. I am worried about him not breathing for 9 minutes. If he was given oxygen would that preserve his brain function? Anyone know?
To keep this as simple as possible, if the on-field medical staff was able to ventilate the patient with a bag-valve mask (Google “AMBU bag”) - then yes, it’s a good thing that would preserve his brain function in regards to oxygenation.

With that being said, it also depends on blood (which carries the oxygen) flow actually reaching the brain. That is the point of the chest compressions and the defibrillator - to maintain and restore blood flow.

I am a physician, but I won’t speculate too much as to the injury Hamlin might have suffered. There’s a lot of docs and other health professionals on Twitter that will say things (possibly to get clicks to their account), but in reality - any cardiovascular or Neuro trauma is possible.

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For all the posters here that felt the need to lash out at the NFL and Roger Goodell when they didn't really have any idea what was really going on last night:

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Skooby
01-02-2023, 10:58 PM
I cried for a while last night, then I cried a little more. Let’s hope Damar makes a full recovery.

Forward_Lateral
01-02-2023, 11:18 PM
I feel for Tee Higgins. He didn’t intend any harm beyond the nature of the game, and people on social media are being absolutely vile to him.
Are you serious???

What is wrong with people

Dr. Lecter
01-03-2023, 03:49 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Announcement directly from Damar’s family: <a href="https://t.co/MdzgxUmVfg">pic.twitter.com/MdzgxUmVfg</a></p>&mdash; Jordon Rooney (@jordonr) <a href="https://twitter.com/jordonr/status/1610316274755584001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

POTLAND PSILBYLO
01-03-2023, 04:10 AM
7 News in Buffalo this morning noted that it's currently at $3.174 M.

3.7 now

sahlensguy
01-03-2023, 06:02 AM
3.7 now

Let's hope some can go to Tee Higgins' way.

Cntrygal
01-03-2023, 11:02 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke with Damar Hamlin’s uncle. Damar was originally on 100% oxygen and is now down to 50%. Says the family is hanging in there. He thanked Bills fans, and Bengals fans and asked for continued prayers</p>&mdash; Josh Reed (@4JoshReed) <a href="https://twitter.com/4JoshReed/status/1610422377652838401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ed
01-03-2023, 11:28 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just spoke with Damar Hamlin’s uncle. Damar was originally on 100% oxygen and is now down to 50%. Says the family is hanging in there. He thanked Bills fans, and Bengals fans and asked for continued prayers</p>— Josh Reed (@4JoshReed) <a href="https://twitter.com/4JoshReed/status/1610422377652838401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I just saw that Matt Parrino tweeted the same thing. He included that he's still on a ventilator and has a little lung damage, but the reduction in oxygen use is a good sign.

imbondz
01-03-2023, 11:53 AM
Anyone else glued to their phone and news? It was so hard to work today.

Cntrygal
01-03-2023, 12:53 PM
Anyone else glued to their phone and news? It was so hard to work today.

Everywhere I went today, including the dentist, brought it up to me....

Cntrygal
01-04-2023, 02:11 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NFL exec Troy Vincent says &quot;everything is being considered&quot; when it comes to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a>-<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> game. &quot;The guiding principles that took us into the 2020 season with COVID&quot; are there. <br><br>&quot;It may not be perfect, but will allow those participating to be able to play.&quot;</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1610716418818949136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Novacane
01-04-2023, 02:18 PM
I was wearing my Bill shirt today. I was talking to a lady about buying her home and she says out of the blue how's your safety. Confused the heck out of me until she pointed to my shirt.

sahlensguy
01-04-2023, 02:53 PM
I was wearing my Bill shirt today. I was talking to a lady about buying her home and she says out of the blue how's your safety. Confused the heck out of me until she pointed to my shirt.

Your safety?

Dude, as in "protection". She was most likely hitting on you to get the sale.