Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

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  • Cali512
    Registered User
    • Jan 2012
    • 6393

    Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

    Mahomes- 46 total tds 5,600 total yds, 12 ints

    Allen- 42 total tds, 5000 total yds, 14 ints


    Allen also didnt play a whole game


    Definitely mahomes award, but allens number 2 no question
    Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
  • TacklingDummy
    Unreachable Douche
    • Jul 2002
    • 71725

    #2
    Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

    Things of beauty. 25 of Mahomes 41 TD passes are 10 yards or under.

    In comparison, 13 of Allen's 35 TD passes are 10 yards or under.

    There is no player more valuable to their team than Allen is to the Bills. He's probably had at least 6 more TDs that were dropped. I know Davis has at least 2 dropped TDs and Knox has 1.

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    • Historian
      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
      • Dec 2002
      • 61725

      #3
      Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

      ....and let's not even talk about the level of competition each face.

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      • Cali512
        Registered User
        • Jan 2012
        • 6393

        #4
        Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

        Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
        Things of beauty. 25 of Mahomes 41 TD passes are 10 yards or under.

        In comparison, 13 of Allen's 35 TD passes are 10 yards or under.

        There is no player more valuable to their team than Allen is to the Bills. He's probably had at least 6 more TDs that were dropped. I know Davis has at least 2 dropped TDs and Knox has 1.

        KC every year is top 3 in separation and RAC. Last year 25% of his yds started from behind the los, and 1/4th of his tds were screens or dump offs.

        I think people really under appreciate how much Reid does to make mahomes life as easy as possible
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        • YardRat
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          • Dec 2004
          • 86171

          #5
          Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

          Josh Allen is the best player in the league, and the most valuable to his team. That being said I don't care about league MVP, I want a Lombardi.
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          • DraftBoy
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            • Jul 2002
            • 107452

            #6
            Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            Josh Allen is the best player in the league, and the most valuable to his team. That being said I don't care about league MVP, I want a Lombardi.
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            • Mad Max
              Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
              • Mar 2003
              • 6698

              #7
              Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
              Josh Allen is the best player in the league, and the most valuable to his team. That being said I don't care about league MVP, I want a Lombardi.
              Exactly. The only hardware that matters is Vince. Josh would say the same.

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              • Mad Max
                Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
                • Mar 2003
                • 6698

                #8
                Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                Originally posted by Cali512 View Post
                KC every year is top 3 in separation and RAC. Last year 25% of his yds started from behind the los, and 1/4th of his tds were screens or dump offs.

                I think people really under appreciate how much Reid does to make mahomes life as easy as possible
                Mahomes is obviously an outsized talent but you’re right he has an unfair advantage in Reid AND Kelce. Those three form a near flawless offensive triumvirate.

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                • sukie
                  Seriously?
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 21511

                  #9
                  Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                  Not only did Josh not play a game, he also sat out 2 4th Qtrs

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                  • sahlensguy
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 13467

                    #10
                    Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                    Out of the competition, Josh in the red zone, threw more ints, took more sacks, had more fumbles and only had a 50% completion rate. It will lose him the mvp award.

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                    • sukie
                      Seriously?
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 21511

                      #11
                      Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                      I do don’t care about MVP winners. We know. We all know.

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                      • TacklingDummy
                        Unreachable Douche
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71725

                        #12
                        Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                        Originally posted by sahlensguy View Post
                        Out of the competition, Josh in the red zone, threw more ints, took more sacks, had more fumbles and only had a 50% completion rate. It will lose him the mvp award.
                        Yes, Gabe dropping a TD in the 1st Miami game and Knox dropping a TD in overtime against Minnesota will cost Allen the MVP.

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                        • Cali512
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 6393

                          #13
                          Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                          Chiefs offense is about 75% mahomes and 25% reid. The bills offense is almost 100% on allen to make plays out of nothing because we run absolutely no concepts to get receivers easy passes with space

                          I was talking to a chiefs fan and he said andy reid holds mahomes back. I was like, you realize that its not normal for receivers to consistently get the ball (including Kelce) with 5-10 yds of space to run after catch

                          Even in mahomes highlights, i always see one or two WRs running open underneath, he just makes the tougher longer throw. We give allen absolutely nothing to work with aside from some runs to the rb. We allow the defense to control the LOS and force allen to either run around for 5 seconds, or make tight window timing routes all game. Nothing is easy, no receivers have space, its all on allen

                          This is why his mistakes dont bother me as much. If every time you drop back, no ones open and their isnt a lot of time, you will start forcing plays. It sucks but if you put it into his perspective, you can see his dilema
                          Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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                          • kingJofNYC
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5960

                            #14
                            Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                            I do feel like Allen has to do too much, there's no easy yards in this scheme at times. I do also feel like Allen tries to do too much when he has easier options underneath, yesterday he took some of those easier options. Allen really didn't have redzone issues until this season, we all know what changed.

                            Bottom line, Mahomes is the better QB, there's no point in arguing with me, you're not changing my mind, he's a better pure QB. But ask me who I want to strap in at QB1 and I may go with Josh, because the dude can run over a linebacker and drag his ass across the goal line and on the next drive he's throwing 65 in the air on a bomb. He's a rare cat and I like the kid, flat out gives you his life on every play.

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                            • Saratoga Slim
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 4154

                              #15
                              Re: Its Mahomes mvp, but allen should be second based on total tds/yds

                              Originally posted by Cali512 View Post
                              Chiefs offense is about 75% mahomes and 25% reid. The bills offense is almost 100% on allen to make plays out of nothing because we run absolutely no concepts to get receivers easy passes with space

                              I was talking to a chiefs fan and he said andy reid holds mahomes back. I was like, you realize that its not normal for receivers to consistently get the ball (including Kelce) with 5-10 yds of space to run after catch

                              Even in mahomes highlights, i always see one or two WRs running open underneath, he just makes the tougher longer throw. We give allen absolutely nothing to work with aside from some runs to the rb. We allow the defense to control the LOS and force allen to either run around for 5 seconds, or make tight window timing routes all game. Nothing is easy, no receivers have space, its all on allen

                              This is why his mistakes dont bother me as much. If every time you drop back, no ones open and their isnt a lot of time, you will start forcing plays. It sucks but if you put it into his perspective, you can see his dilema
                              Yeah this is increasingly my perception of the Dorsey passing offense. But I'll give him the playoffs to see what happens when all cards are on the table. Honestly, Daboll's offense looked kinda unconvincing until the end of last season. And now we're all watching with the expectations created by those two Pats games and the KC divisional game where we scored touchdowns seemingly at will.
                              Wake up, brush your teeth, and get ready for a day of hating the Dolphins. Or the Pats? How to choose?

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