So who does Mcdermott throw under the bus?

[Novacane]

Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb for this bull ****. It should be Fraizer. I don't have any faith that it will. Maybe the OL coach?

[GreedoII]

that would be racist!! McDermont is a white devil if he did

[Historian]

Dorsey has to go.

[Novacane]

What a bunch of quitters.

[sahlensguy]

McD is done. Can't lead a group of men to sacrifice their good health in a violent sport ever again.

He never had the eye of the tiger and certainly wont now.

[Cali512]

Honestly. With allen, i dont care who our coach is. Im for it. We may desperately need an offensive coach

[Chet]

I’ve been calling this since he kicked the fg at the end of the half of the Bills-Chiefs AFCCG. He’s a *****, and you can’t win with stupid, emasculated coaches

[BillsFanCupp38]

McDermott never throws anyone under the bus, you should know that. That being said it's time for a change in philosophy. Defenses have been neutered by NFL rules. We can't live in a defensive world anymore. Also the best player on the team is Josh Allen. Hes the future and he's what we need to build around. 7 defensive picks in the first two rounds for the past 5 years and we've never won a SB with an elite defense. No one wins SBs with elite defense. It's always an elite offense with a competent defense. Change the philosophy and you will change the trajectory of this team. Now whether or not McDermott will do that is unknown. If he's unwilling to go this route then he must go. If he's willing to change with the times then he can stay. Offense offense offense.

[Mace]

He's not going to throw anyone under the bus. He'll wait for Beane to give him more talent to fuel the stale, figured out schemes, then expect he can clap them to a new level.

[GreedoII]

he should throw everybody's mom under the bus

[Canadian'eh!]

If McD isn't willing to make changes to the way the D is run, maybe it's time we consider changes to him.

Every analyst on TV was BEGGING them to stop playing nickel zone. Nope.

[sukie]

FA or draft a WR stud. Obviously needed.

McKenzie… camp cut
LB playing in a 4-2-5 aren’t able to stop run. (only one plays that. The other is an off ball LB and will command 15/year

Davis good bye.

Beez… thanks for playing

anyone on a rookie deal.., breath a sigh of relief now.

every position is open minis QB1 WR1 K D Jones T white.

Milano and pay Poyer.

[Forward_Lateral]

He should lay down and let the bus run him over

[Discotrish]

He should lay down and let the bus run him over

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[swiper]

Beane needs to find the balls that Howie Roseman had in Philadelphia when he got rid of Doug Pederson. He needs to replace McDermott. The others you're complaining about will fall with him. Let Oliver and Edmunds walk as free agents. Start by redoing the interior of each line. Mitch Morse has, at least, 6 concussions. The guards are not good. Neither are either of the tackles. Dawson was exposed badly today. Allen, Diggs, Knox and Cook can stay. Maybe Davis. The rookies can stay. Defensively, Settle didn't do what he was brought here to do. Oliver and Edmunds suck. Actually bringing back Phillips and Lawson turned out to be ok. Daquon Jones stays. They have to assess the health of their secondary. Bass stays, of course. A lot to do. But, I think it's time to change defensive philosophies and Josh has enough NFL experience that he can handle them bringing in an outside OC.

[Historian]

Beane needs to find the balls that Howie Roseman had in Philadelphia when he got rid of Doug Pederson. He needs to replace McDermott. .
You're forgetting one thing:

This isn't Philadelphia, it's Buffalo.

NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE,, EXCEPT FIRST TIMERS AND PROVEN LOSER RETREADS.

Allen is a draw, but even he hasn't looked very good down the stretch.

I dunno.

[Ginger Vitis]

You're forgetting one thing:

This isn't Philadelphia, it's Buffalo.

NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE,, EXCEPT FIRST TIMERS AND PROVEN LOSER RETREADS.

Allen is a draw, but even he hasn't looked very good down the stretch.

I dunno.
Allen is a draw... absolutely.... id rather take the bills job if it was open than Denver or Carolina or Arizona or Houston

[YardRat]

Frasier needs to go, this should be the last year of "look how good our regular season stats are and watch us **** the bed in the playoffs again".

This just isn't a championship caliber defense, it's always been over-rated, as well as some of the personnel. Edmunds was directly responsible for three big plays in the first quarter when the Bengals were building their 14 point lead, by getting sucked up into middle and abandoning the receiver crossing deeper. One TD and two third down conversions. Milano made a horrible read (again) against a TE on the second TD (again). For as good as he can look against the run, he still is not good in coverage in the playoffs.

Good teams with good quarterbacks simply don't break like Frasier and McD wish they would, they just methodically carve us up. In all honesty it's kind of too bad we didn't lose last week because we could have brought back Jim Schwartz to the run the defense again (which actually was dominant, not a mirage) but he's spoken for now.

As far as the offense I don't think Dorsey is one and done, nor should he be. The biggest fail on offense has been Josh Allen. As much as I hate to say it he regressed this year...a lot. He never made that step up to be the confident, surgical killer that he should have and actually looked more like JP Losman at times, chucking it up and praying on third downs. That's on him, he needs to get back to work and take this more seriously.

There are two elite teams in the AFC, and Buffalo isn't one of them. There are two championship-caliber quarterbacks in the AFC, and Josh isn't one of them either.

[Historian]

Disagree.

It isn't Allen calling for the bomb on 3rd and 8.

[Novacane]

Frasier needs to go, this should be the last year of "look how good our regular season stats are and watch us **** the bed in the playoffs again".

This just isn't a championship caliber defense, it's always been over-rated, as well as some of the personnel. Edmunds was directly responsible for three big plays in the first quarter when the Bengals were building their 14 point lead, by getting sucked up into middle and abandoning the receiver crossing deeper. One TD and two third down conversions. Milano made a horrible read (again) against a TE on the second TD (again). For as good as he can look against the run, he still is not good in coverage in the playoffs.

Good teams with good quarterbacks simply don't break like Frasier and McD wish they would, they just methodically carve us up. In all honesty it's kind of too bad we didn't lose last week because we could have brought back Jim Schwartz to the run the defense again (which actually was dominant, not a mirage) but he's spoken for now.

As far as the offense I don't think Dorsey is one and done, nor should he be. The biggest fail on offense has been Josh Allen. As much as I hate to say it he regressed this year...a lot. He never made that step up to be the confident, surgical killer that he should have and actually looked more like JP Losman at times, chucking it up and praying on third downs. That's on him, he needs to get back to work and take this more seriously.

There are two elite teams in AFC and Buffalo isn't one of them. There are two championship-caliber quarterbacks in the AFC, and Josh isn't one of them either.


I agree with the first part of that sentence. The part about Josh is ridiculous.

[Discotrish]

Disagree.

It isn't Allen calling for the bomb on 3rd and 8.

Third and two.

[swiper]

You're forgetting one thing:

This isn't Philadelphia, it's Buffalo.

NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE,, EXCEPT FIRST TIMERS AND PROVEN LOSER RETREADS.

Allen is a draw, but even he hasn't looked very good down the stretch.

I dunno.

Who is the Eagles coach again? Where'd he come from?

[justasportsfan]

FA or draft a WR stud. Obviously needed.

McKenzie… camp cut
LB playing in a 4-2-5 aren’t able to stop run. (only one plays that. The other is an off ball LB and will command 15/year

Davis good bye.

Beez… thanks for playing

anyone on a rookie deal.., breath a sigh of relief now.

every position is open minis QB1 WR1 K D Jones T white.

Milano and pay Poyer.

Miss Daboll too?

[Mace]

Frasier needs to go, this should be the last year of "look how good our regular season stats are and watch us **** the bed in the playoffs again".

This just isn't a championship caliber defense, it's always been over-rated, as well as some of the personnel. Edmunds was directly responsible for three big plays in the first quarter when the Bengals were building their 14 point lead, by getting sucked up into middle and abandoning the receiver crossing deeper. One TD and two third down conversions. Milano made a horrible read (again) against a TE on the second TD (again). For as good as he can look against the run, he still is not good in coverage in the playoffs.

Good teams with good quarterbacks simply don't break like Frasier and McD wish they would, they just methodically carve us up. In all honesty it's kind of too bad we didn't lose last week because we could have brought back Jim Schwartz to the run the defense again (which actually was dominant, not a mirage) but he's spoken for now.

As far as the offense I don't think Dorsey is one and done, nor should he be. The biggest fail on offense has been Josh Allen. As much as I hate to say it he regressed this year...a lot. He never made that step up to be the confident, surgical killer that he should have and actually looked more like JP Losman at times, chucking it up and praying on third downs. That's on him, he needs to get back to work and take this more seriously.

There are two elite teams in the AFC, and Buffalo isn't one of them. There are two championship-caliber quarterbacks in the AFC, and Josh isn't one of them either.

It's not a championship capable anything in the 6th year of a program while the Bengals are in their 4th and just humiliated us in our house. You can't clap this team to victory, you need nuts and bolts coaching we don't have. You need coaches that can adapt, and have some bag of tricks, and we don't. They can't effectively use who they have, even when they have issues, because they don't have a clue how to evolve from their simple basics they figure they can motivate properly, like vets need more motivating.

They've been dumbed down and numbed, because don't worry about it, yay, next week. The message is old and stale, there's no nuts and bolts because there's no capability.

And next year, they'll do it again, because all they need is another offseason, with diminishing returns.

We already peaked, and now it's just lip service and desperation, imho.

[swiper]

McDermott supports Frazier's cover zero BS. Both have to go. Dorsey too.

And with Beane, how hard is he going to hold onto his draftees that aren't that great. It will be interesting to see what is done with Oliver and Edmunds. I don't expect anything drastic will change.

[YardRat]

Disagree.

It isn't Allen calling for the bomb on 3rd and 8.

If the read is single deep man on the outside, there is always going to be a 'go' check for Davis or Diggs. If there are four routes in the pattern, and three guys are open but Josh still throws deep to a covered Davis that's not on Dorsey, that's on Josh.

[YardRat]

Who is the Eagles coach again? Where'd he come from?

Jamestown, NY.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Im done with McDermott

we have peaked under him

time to turn the page

[ParanoidAndroid]

I think maybe not having the 3 D-linemen we signed in the offseason to get us over the hump might have hurt.

And not doing enough to solidify the O-line. Brown turned out to be a dud after a fairly promising rookie year. Instead of building on what he did well last year, he ditched that and amplified his weaknesses. Kromer has to take some blame.

Dorsey wasn't ready to lead a Super Bowl caliber offense. He won't be next year, either, but I think we're stuck with him.

[notacon]

Nonsense thread.

[Novacane]

The unlucky bastard is Jim Salgado! Thank God that losers out of here. Now we can win a Super Bowl!

[sahlensguy]

The unlucky bastard is Jim Salgado! Thank God that losers out of here. Now we can win a Super Bowl!

Rofl

[sahlensguy]

Who's next? The quality control coordinator? Probably deserves it!

[Forward_Lateral]

Who's next? The quality control coordinator? Probably deserves it!

Do they still have the midget trainer? He always came up short of expectations.

[sahlensguy]

Do they still have the midget trainer? He always came up short of expectations.

Daboll is gone.

[Typ0]

You're forgetting one thing:

This isn't Philadelphia, it's Buffalo.

NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE,, EXCEPT FIRST TIMERS AND PROVEN LOSER RETREADS.

Allen is a draw, but even he hasn't looked very good down the stretch.

I dunno.

Not sure that is true any more. You know Ralph Wilson's ownership was a turnoff for many years -- it was his mentality that denied strong leadership where it was needed in favor of 'yes men' robots he could lead around like puppets. And he didn't want to pay anyone ... he rode Wade Phillips out of town without a final paycheck after dictating to him who he was and wasn't going to play.

People aren't going to sign-up for that **** I would consider it a significant contributor to the drought.

Pegula stepped up and got Ryan but was duped because he was a new owner.

This situation we have know is unprecedented. If for no other reason moving McDermott is good for the teams mental health. Move away from this season as quick as possible. McDermott is doing a lot of lip-speak about utopian ideals and things but then doesn't do **** and doesn't deliver. If McDermott seriously understood a lot of stuff he talks about he would understand this organization needs change and step aside gracefully so they can have it because he is not orchestrating any change he's trying to maintain the mediocre status quo.

But I agree with you about one thing -- the ability to move away from McDermott is dependent on who we can get to replace him.