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Cali512

01-22-2023, 04:53 PM

Lately, hes coming across as a total *******. He seems like a lose cannon and can become a lot of trouble. Wouldn't surprise me if he says something dumb after the game

Novacane

01-22-2023, 04:55 PM

He's frustrated. I hope he runs his mouth and helps get Dorsey fired.

BillsFanCupp38

01-22-2023, 04:55 PM

No, he's our best weapon. He stays. Everyone on defense can go. More money needs to be invested in OLine and weapons.

TacklingDummy

01-22-2023, 05:17 PM

:spam:

DraftBoy

01-22-2023, 05:18 PM

He’s a #1 WR with a big ego, he stays.

Canadian'eh!

01-22-2023, 05:20 PM

STOP.

Diggs plays hard EVERY game. He SHOULD be angry. Other guys aren't giving the same effort as he does. He earns the right to be angry about losing.

kingJofNYC

01-22-2023, 05:21 PM

Get rid of anyone that shows emotions or derision towards QB 1

Pathetic. Folks get hot under the collar. These guys have killed themselves for months chasing a dream, they can do what they want.

The guy was blowing off steam after they got thrashed, no biggie.

Novacane

01-22-2023, 05:22 PM

He's started out the last few games strong and then we just stop throwing to him. He should be breaking a laptop over Dorseys head.

DraftBoy

01-22-2023, 05:26 PM

I love Diggs but he may demand to leave. See what occurred post game and hope it’s just his emotions getting the better of him.

He’s only interested in a Super Bowl title and if he doesn’t think he can get it here then he could look to force a move.

TacklingDummy

01-22-2023, 05:27 PM

Diggs going anywhere after just signing an extension:roflmao:

Mad Max

01-22-2023, 05:28 PM

Lately, hes coming across as a total *******. He seems like a lose cannon and can become a lot of trouble. Wouldn't surprise me if he says something dumb after the game

No. He’s a winner and want to win Lombardi. We need more of him not less

OpIv37

01-22-2023, 05:30 PM

He’s emotional. Oh well.

WR seemed like a strength going into the season, but that really wasn’t the case. Diggs was far and away better than anyone else we have at the position and is one of the best in the league. The Bills played 18 games this season. He had maybe 2 bad ones.

Think about it this way: Diggs wants plays being made. He doesn’t get upset if he makes plays. He doesn’t get upset when other people make plays. He only gets upset when no one else is making plays AND he doesn’t get the ball. The solution isn’t getting rid of Diggs. It’s getting more weapons so Diggs doesn’t feel like he has to do it all himself.

Forward_Lateral

01-22-2023, 05:32 PM

Dorsey needs to go. The entire o line needs to go. The Defense needs to go.

Novacane

01-22-2023, 05:33 PM

sahlensguy

01-22-2023, 05:33 PM

Best player on the Bills since he got here, not named Allen. He also hasn't caught a td pass in 5 straight playoff games. Don't know where the blame goes but I'd be pissed too.

kingJofNYC

01-22-2023, 05:34 PM

Dorsey needs to go. The entire o line needs to go. The Defense needs to go.
Team is in cap hell. They have Corner making top dollar that is nowhere near where he was. They will lose their starting Safety and MLB in free agency.

They have no DT depth besides off the street FAs, the drafting has sucked, it's going to be a long off season. This window is almost shut and they should retool asap.

DraftBoy

01-22-2023, 05:35 PM

He's more likely to join up with Josh and get Dorsey fired.

Dorsey was Josh’s pick, I’m not sure they’re going to agree on that.

Gibby 2.0

01-22-2023, 05:36 PM

Why? Keep him. Great guy, I'd be pissed too if I were him. We have a bad habit of getting rid of people for speaking out when they weren't the problem. Keep him.

Ginger Vitis

01-22-2023, 05:38 PM

Diggs is untradeable... His dead cap is enormous for 2023... wasnt a fan of his extension... and I believe draft boy and a few others werent either... I would have though long and hard last year if I was GM if another team had offered me a package for diggs that was close to what the chiefs got for hill

Lexwhat

01-22-2023, 08:46 PM

So outside of Josh - there's 1 player who actually has some emotion, and you want to trade him?

Outside of maybe San Fran - which team is going to trade for him, pay him, AND be a better Super Bowl contender than Buffalo?

Mace

01-22-2023, 08:55 PM

Catching 4 out of 10 targets doesn't help his argument.

Buffalogic

01-22-2023, 09:04 PM

You can be frustrated and emotional without being a complete baby.

He disappears in the playoffs every year. Is that on him or on Josh? I don't know, but he's non existent in our playoff losses.

BuffaloBlitz83

01-22-2023, 09:19 PM

You can be frustrated and emotional without being a complete baby.

He disappears in the playoffs every year. Is that on him or on Josh? I don't know, but he's non existent in our playoff losses.

Don't know why we don't move him around to slot than back outside. Mix it up.

kingJofNYC

01-22-2023, 09:36 PM

Catching 4 out of 10 targets doesn't help his argument.

He almost killed himself on one of those targets.

Mr. Pink

01-22-2023, 10:53 PM

Diggs pouting and complaining is what got him out of Minnesota.

I don't think the Vikings miss him, in fact I think they're better without him.

Woodman

01-22-2023, 10:54 PM

Don't know why we don't move him around to slot than back outside. Mix it up.

Agreed 100%

YardRat

01-23-2023, 06:02 AM

He shouldn't go anywhere, and Josh earned getting his ass chewed by somebody.

Unfortunately Vikingland is all about "We told you so" this morning.

The two biggest issues on this team right now is the DC and the QB. One is beyond hope, and the other just needs to get his head out of the clouds.

Buffalogic

01-23-2023, 06:21 AM

Forward_Lateral

01-23-2023, 06:28 AM

How can you watch yesterday's game and come away with QB is the issue?
Because he's an idiot

Kenny

01-23-2023, 10:22 AM

Josh didnt do anything to lose us the game, but he honestly didnt do anything to help us win either.

Bill Cody

01-23-2023, 10:31 AM

Diggs pouting and complaining is what got him out of Minnesota.

I don't think the Vikings miss him, in fact I think they're better without him.

Pfft. Sure because they then drafted a future HOF player in Justin Jefferson. Diggs has not been a pouter or a complainer here. He's been great, and he's a huge reason the team developed into a contender. That's very obvious.

Mr. Pink

01-23-2023, 10:40 AM

Pfft. Sure because they then drafted a future HOF player in Justin Jefferson. Diggs has not been a pouter or a complainer here. He's been great, and he's a huge reason the team developed into a contender. That's very obvious.

They were a contender before he got here.

Josh Allen makes them a contender.

notacon

01-23-2023, 11:01 AM

Diggs is not going anywhere, nor should he.

ParanoidAndroid

01-23-2023, 12:35 PM

Can we not start threads for every thought?

He's our best offensive weapon and yesterday was tough.

This whole season has been tough.

Diggs has a big heart and is still a young man learning how to control his emotions.

This is an overreaction.

notacon

01-23-2023, 01:38 PM

BuffaloBlitz83

01-23-2023, 01:47 PM

How would optics look if Allen did what Diggs did. Leaving immediately and not answering questions. And just said he’s emotional.

Diggs handled this wrong. He should be with his brothers

Ingtar33

01-23-2023, 02:06 PM

Lately, hes coming across as a total *******. He seems like a lose cannon and can become a lot of trouble. Wouldn't surprise me if he says something dumb after the game

ok, first of all, the one thing he did was show up his QB, not a fan.

Setting that aside, I can't hate on a guy who wants to win like him. we need more guys who want to win. This isn't about "not getting his numbers" this is about not winning. if he's not able to touch the ball, and we lose i don't blame him for being upset. this isn't the first playoff game we lost with Diggs not contributing.

Saratoga Slim

01-23-2023, 02:09 PM

Kenny

01-23-2023, 04:28 PM

Diggs handled this wrong. He should be with his brothers

Yup instead of being upset and showing emotion, he should have taken the McD approach:
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(sorry, just too easy!)

Mace

01-23-2023, 04:48 PM

He almost killed himself on one of those targets.

You're right. Reconsidering it, I'm glad he was upset. At least someone on the team was emotionally invested in the game.

swiper

01-23-2023, 05:19 PM

Lately, hes coming across as a total *******. He seems like a lose cannon and can become a lot of trouble. Wouldn't surprise me if he says something dumb after the game

Dude. Stop posting. You sound like you're drunk. This is one of your more stupid posts.

YardRat

01-23-2023, 05:32 PM

How can you watch yesterday's game and come away with QB is the issue?

It's not 'the' issue, it is 'an' issue.

Josh regressed this season, especially after the Pittsburgh game, enamored with the long ball instead of taking what is there. He should have been the QB methodically carving up the opposition yesterday, not playing hero ball.

That's how you win in the playoffs. Just ask Joe Burrow.

YardRat

01-23-2023, 05:33 PM

Because he's an idiot

Your opinion is only worth about 50% of others with the exchange rate.

YardRat

01-23-2023, 05:41 PM

"The" issue is the defense, and has been for five years.

Kenny

01-23-2023, 06:25 PM

"The" issue is the defense, and has been for five years.

Agreed that the defense is the #1 issue. But can you really upgrade the talent on defense vs. scheme though? With so much money on Josh and potentially the rest of the offense, I dont think you can really afford any big time players on defense.

When you look at the Chiefs, you have Chris Jones and maybe Frank Clark?

I know everyone's saying the same thing, but hoping if we keep saying it, it'll come true!

FIRE FRAZIER!!!!

Mace

01-23-2023, 06:35 PM

"The" issue is the defense, and has been for five years.
I kind of think they entered the world of "both now" this season, which is usually the mark of of a team that passed its' peak.

YardRat

01-23-2023, 06:57 PM

Agreed that the defense is the #1 issue. But can you really upgrade the talent on defense vs. scheme though? With so much money on Josh and potentially the rest of the offense, I dont think you can really afford any big time players on defense.

When you look at the Chiefs, you have Chris Jones and maybe Frank Clark?

I know everyone's saying the same thing, but hoping if we keep saying it, it'll come true!

FIRE FRAZIER!!!!

I don't think we need much. We have two corners now that can play press/man. The talent on the dline is flexible. IMO this crew could be as good as Mario-Meatball-Dareus-Hughes were for Schwartz. We need a MLB, a third linebacker, and if Poyer/Hyde both come back we've got safeties that can play more C1 and less C2 and C3.

Cali512

01-23-2023, 07:02 PM

Dude. Stop posting. You sound like you're drunk. This is one of your more stupid posts.

Question. Did you really think he handled the hamlin situation well? He seemed more than willing to continue the game and made a very out of touch speech that seemed to annoy our players. Then he had the audacity to go to the hospital like he was the only player who cared, when everything we have seen and heard, shows he had no relationship with damar

He does things to make himself seem bigger and more caring than he is

I cant be the only one who cringed when he tried doing a speech to the players minutes after hamlin nearly died. I cant be the only one who saw right through him going to the hospital. He had no relationship with hamlin. Hyde/poyer/ dane jackson didnt do that. Diggs did that to put himself in front of everything and act like he cared more than anything

If you dont see through him, than idk what to tell you. Even his relationship with allen seems inauthentic. It seems more like he knows allen is the most important thing to his career right now, and he knows that he has to butter him up to get his catches

Diggs is super inauthentic. Everything he does looks very intentional

ParanoidAndroid

01-23-2023, 07:33 PM

Just stop.

You have no idea who Stephon Diggs is.

notacon

01-23-2023, 07:34 PM

Question. Did you really think he handled the hamlin situation well? He seemed more than willing to continue the game and made a very out of touch speech that seemed to annoy our players. Then he had the audacity to go to the hospital like he was the only player who cared, when everything we have seen and heard, shows he had no relationship with damar

He does things to make himself seem bigger and more caring than he is

I cant be the only one who cringed when he tried doing a speech to the players minutes after hamlin nearly died. I cant be the only one who saw right through him going to the hospital. He had no relationship with hamlin. Hyde/poyer/ dane jackson didnt do that. Diggs did that to put himself in front of everything and act like he cared more than anything

If you dont see through him, than idk what to tell you. Even his relationship with allen seems inauthentic. It seems more like he knows allen is the most important thing to his career right now, and he knows that he has to butter him up to get his catches

Diggs is super inauthentic. Everything he does looks very intentional

Oh boy, this is as dumb as your opinion dissing HC Tomlin for the same made up malady.

So....in addition to being a know-it-all football expert, you're also an expert in psychoanalysis....without knowing or (I strongly suspect) EVER meeting the people you are smearing.

Maybe it was the psyc degree you got from....what college do you go to again????....was it the same one you coached the football team???? :rolleyes:

Kenny

01-23-2023, 10:15 PM

I don't think we need much. We have two corners now that can play press/man. The talent on the dline is flexible. IMO this crew could be as good as Mario-Meatball-Dareus-Hughes were for Schwartz. We need a MLB, a third linebacker, and if Poyer/Hyde both come back we've got safeties that can play more C1 and less C2 and C3.
I dont know...

Are you referring to Elam and White? Elam's unproven, but yes... he did look okay in press coverage vs. the Fins. White? I know he was coming off injury, but he whiffed on Tyreek multiple times. Im not sure White can play man.

And no way our line is anywhere as good as Mario, Dareus, Williams and Hughes. Any one of those 4 could wreck havoc and make things happen on a consistent basis.
Outside of Miller (who I'm really hoping still has gas in the take and can stay healthy at 34.5years old in September), and maybe Oliver, we have Jones who's good at stopping the run, and Rousseau and Lawson who are both good at setting the edge.

Cali512

01-23-2023, 10:20 PM

Oh boy, this is as dumb as your opinion dissing HC Tomlin for the same made up malady.

So....in addition to being a know-it-all football expert, you're also an expert in psychoanalysis....without knowing or (I strongly suspect) EVER meeting the people you are smearing.

Maybe it was the psyc degree you got from....what college do you go to again????....was it the same one you coached the football team???? :rolleyes:

I actually did go to acc for a year for it and my uncle is a professional psychiatrist. I dropped out because me and my wife had a house and i couldnt pay for it

I also just know football. I study it and have since 8

So you really think diggs was 100% authentic?

justasportsfan

01-24-2023, 10:53 AM

Diggs pouting and complaining is what got him out of Minnesota.

I don't think the Vikings miss him, in fact I think they're better without him.

question is , are the bills better with him? yes!

justasportsfan

01-24-2023, 10:55 AM

As a bills fan , you want players that want to win a SB for the City and bills fans andnot ones that only want a paycheck. He's been a great teammate .

I agree!

<img src="https://i.ibb.co/5FRyzJf/Diggs.png" alt="Diggs" border="0">

Woodman

01-24-2023, 10:58 AM

At least Diggs doesn't go around calling himself "Primetime".

imbondz

01-24-2023, 11:12 AM

Spam thread

sahlensguy

01-24-2023, 11:13 AM

Passion turns me off! Yuck.

Typ0

01-24-2023, 11:31 AM

Diggs was at the center of this squads emotional turmoil this season. You can't just ignore that. We were melting down on the field and he's running up and down the sidelines *****ing at McDermott and Allen. You have to see those things. You can't just un-see them because the media and fans have built this big impression of who Diggs is.

And he is aging. *****ing at everyone is always throwing more vomit on the pile for people to process. Not leadership. Can be leadership if used strategically and supported by great relationships but very quickly turns into narcissism and self-serving whining.

Typ0

01-24-2023, 11:32 AM

Let's just keep Josh Allen and throw away the whole rest of the team and start over. Do it now before it's too late.

Historian

01-24-2023, 11:37 AM

Josh regressed this season, especially after the Pittsburgh game, enamored with the long ball instead of taking what is there. He should have been the QB methodically carving up the opposition yesterday, not playing hero ball.

Can you expand on this a little bit, Rat?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we differ as to how.

Typ0

01-24-2023, 11:49 AM

Can you expand on this a little bit, Rat?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we differ as to how.

It was clear as day he'd been coached to just unleash. I know we see what Josh is doing on the field and think it's all him but I don't buy into it. Allen was coached to start that behavior. Maybe it's got to do with elbow and he was ok on the long throws but really struggling on the short stuff?

TacklingDummy

01-24-2023, 12:00 PM

How was this not a penalty? Bengals got away with alot of **** during game.
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Kenny

01-24-2023, 12:37 PM

How was this not a penalty? Bengals got away with alot of **** during game.
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Because it's within 5 yards of the LOS... and basically how you should be playing when you're in a man scheme (basically how the Chargers shut down Hill). Also Diggs being off the LOS and getting somewhat of a free release... you would have hoped he could avoid the jam (unless that was a run play designed for Diggs to take out the DB)

Edit: that kind of looked like illegal hands to the face though!
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TacklingDummy

01-24-2023, 12:42 PM

Edit: that kind of looked like illegal hands to the face

That's the part I'm talking about. Looks like he basically punches him in the face.

YardRat

01-24-2023, 06:02 PM

Can you expand on this a little bit, Rat?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I think we differ as to how.

He threw a a lot more long balls after the bye, we all saw that. His completion percentage went down (because he was taking deeper shots) and his yards per completion went up (he was roughly 9-11 yards prior to the bye, mostly over 12 after). I don't have stats on the air yards per incompletion but I would bet that went up too.

Typ0

01-24-2023, 08:07 PM

I have no issues with Diggs not getting the ball Sunday. In fact, that is what I would expect because that is how CIN always does it. It is where your best weapon becomes your best decoy. Problem is there isn't enough of anyone else there to actually catch the damn football. So Diggs being silent is not what our problem was Sunday. Diggs shooting his mouth off was a big problem though. No understanding for his tirades. He's a selfish ass pissed off because HE is losing when HE wants to win. Diggs is a ME player. A lot of stuff has happened this season. We didn't know it before. Now we do.

imbondz

01-24-2023, 08:40 PM

Diggs was the only one who showed any emotion Sunday and we’re dogging him. He’s our #1 WR who rarely drops passes. Makes no sense.

Typ0

01-24-2023, 08:54 PM

Diggs was the only one who showed any emotion Sunday and we’re dogging him. He’s our #1 WR who rarely drops passes. Makes no sense.

It does not fit in with McDermott's mantra ergo the mantra gets destroyed. McDermott would have been much better off just saying Diggs is a competitor and was upset so he was being a dork.

Hey all these guys are reeling with PTSD from this season OK. I'm not trying to minimize that in any way being critical of Diggs. In a way they are all sick and are going to need some time. So what happened on the field could and should have a tipped view in light of what the team went through this season. But how do you handle that?

Borosai

01-25-2023, 01:00 AM

I have no problem with Diggs showing real emotion (probably because I feel the same way) instead of repeating the same cookie-cutter, PC comments you hear every week from this team. That's why they are where they are. "We gotta learn from it and get better." "I can't put my team in that position." "It's a long season." There's always an obvious solution to the problem, but the solution never showed up. The team got worse. Maybe if someone had spoken up earlier in the season, drawing some urgent attention to the poor play we all saw out there, things could've actually been fixed. Instead, they falsely believed the hype, thought everything would be alright by simply continuing "The Process", and boom, Super Bowl champs!

I have no idea what McD does as a head coach. You know you have to run the ball to balance your offense (and I don't mean Allen as your leading rusher). Your offense continues to lack a legit running game. Nothing? Just let it be I guess. I know Allen wants to air it out, and apparently Dorsey does too, regardless of the weather or defense. Someone (McD) needs to straighten that out. The poor coaching isn't new.

So yeah, Diggs should be upset. Allen hasn't played well since the bye. The OC didn't help. McD didn't help. The OL didn't help. And nothing was done about it.

jamze132

01-25-2023, 02:56 AM

Anyone who thinks we should get rid of Diggs isn’t very football savvy.

IMO, Leslie Frazier is the weak link who refuses to adjust his scheme from game to game. The Bengals punched us in the mouth before Hamlin got hurt and they did the exact same thing again and we did nothing in defense to stop it. They’re down 3 starters on the O-line so the only way they’re going to be successful is with quick passes…so one would think playing press coverage would slow down Burrow’s decision making…which obviously never happened. Every single person catching the ball pretty much had freedom to do so under 10 yards the entire game. There were even a couple of miscommunications in the backfield which screwed us.

So yeah it’s easy to see why the offense was never able to get in sync and it’s why Diggs is miserable, which I fully expect. I wish the rest of the team had his passion for winning.

DraftBoy

01-25-2023, 04:15 AM

TacklingDummy

01-25-2023, 04:59 AM

Because it’s just a jam at the line. It’s a good no call and letting them play football.
You can't jam someone with a punch to tbe face. Horrendous no call.

DraftBoy

01-25-2023, 07:05 AM

You can't jam someone with a punch to tbe face. Horrendous no call.

It’s the playoffs, either come to play or get beat. Your sudden need to whine about every call not going the Bills way is akin to Op’s constant negativity.

TacklingDummy

01-25-2023, 08:40 AM

It’s the playoffs, either come to play or get beat. Your sudden need to whine about every call not going the Bills way is akin to Op’s constant negativity.

Whatever.

kscdogbillsfan1221

01-25-2023, 08:43 AM

Great thread

lets Get rid of the one wide receiver on this team that runs the correct routes and doesn’t drop balls and hates losing

Historian

01-25-2023, 08:57 AM

He threw a a lot more long balls after the bye, we all saw that. His completion percentage went down (because he was taking deeper shots) and his yards per completion went up (he was roughly 9-11 yards prior to the bye, mostly over 12 after). I don't have stats on the air yards per incompletion but I would bet that went up too.

I guess it boils down to who's fault that is.

You believe it's Josh, okay.

I tend to think of it as Dorsey's fault. I mean, if you have a thoroughbred, you run him I guess, but you still have to play sound, situational football.

Then there's the line which is average at best, and lost it's starting center for a few weeks.

I don't put this on Josh, I think it comes from the booth, and sometimes, due to a breakdown.

Forward_Lateral

01-25-2023, 10:44 AM

I guess it boils down to who's fault that is.

You believe it's Josh, okay.

I tend to think of it as Dorsey's fault. I mean, if you have a thoroughbred, you run him I guess, but you still have to play sound, situational football.

Then there's the line which is average at best, and lost it's starting center for a few weeks.

I don't put this on Josh, I think it comes from the booth, and sometimes, due to a breakdown.
It's 100% coaching.

How many times did Josh throw deep balls in stupid situations last year? You can probably count them on one hand. How many times did they call deep balls in stupid situations this year?

Yes, Daboll had some flaws, but he knew how to call a game. He knew what plays worked and what got Josh and the offense in a rhythm. He didn't just call 20 yard pass plays every time.

Dorsey has no idea what a screen pass is, unless it's a useless WR screen. No TE screens, no RB screens, just stupid bubble screens and an occasional jet sweep. He has no idea how to call a game. Can he learn? Sure. Will he? I don't know. Not in Buffalo, IMO. Not with Josh Allen as his QB. Josh needs someone who will bring him down to earth. Someone who can reign him in with PLAYCALLING.

Typ0

01-25-2023, 01:42 PM

sukie

01-26-2023, 08:30 AM

It's 100% coaching.

How many times did Josh throw deep balls in stupid situations last year? You can probably count them on one hand. How many times did they call deep balls in stupid situations this year?

Yes, Daboll had some flaws, but he knew how to call a game. He knew what plays worked and what got Josh and the offense in a rhythm. He didn't just call 20 yard pass plays every time.

Dorsey has no idea what a screen pass is, unless it's a useless WR screen. No TE screens, no RB screens, just stupid bubble screens and an occasional jet sweep. He has no idea how to call a game. Can he learn? Sure. Will he? I don't know. Not in Buffalo, IMO. Not with Josh Allen as his QB. Josh needs someone who will bring him down to earth. Someone who can rein him in with PLAYCALLING.

not just an awesome post but nearly a piece of artwork.
The outlets were always in the flat. No RB break off block and turn 4 yards up field over the middle. The WR screen to Diggs worked so well early.

Dorsey loves the sidelines. Loves it . But there is so much between the numbers left there… unused.

odd since he’s a former QB. Lack of non flat RB outlets is maddening.