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  • DraftBoy
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    • Jul 2002
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    Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

    Per ESPN Alert
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  • BLUTO
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    Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

    Wonderful News!!

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    • jamze132
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      • Jun 2003
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      MLB here we come!

      Either going to be Wagner or David. We’ll draft one on the first or second.

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      • YardRat
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        • Dec 2004
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        I would have held off on Von until I absolutely had to.
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        • DraftBoy
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          • Jul 2002
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          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
          I would have held off on Von until I absolutely had to.
          How else were they going to get under the cap? I don’t see them actually trading Oliver or cutting Morse.
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          • kgun12
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            • Jul 2002
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            Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
            How else were they going to get under the cap? I don’t see them actually trading Oliver or cutting Morse.
            It created $32 million in cap space. So they didn’t need to do Von’s. Besides there were other contract that could have been redone.
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            • Saratoga Slim
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              • Jul 2005
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              That's good. Some reservations about Von, but the reality is we're 100% tied to him for two years, so might as well double down on that so we have the $$ to maximize the window we hoped to capitalize on by signing him.
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              • Saratoga Slim
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                • Jul 2005
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                Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                It created $32 million in cap space. So they didn’t need to do Von’s. Besides there were other contract that could have been redone.
                It's quite possible they've got some things lined up but as yet unannounced that DO require the cap space created by restructuring Von. Just speculating, but if they were going to restructure Von without a specific deal/deals in mind, they would've probably done it last week. Waiting until Monday night of the first day of legal tampering suggests that they now need the flexibility to close deals they're in on.
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                • DraftBoy
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                  It created $32 million in cap space. So they didn’t need to do Von’s. Besides there were other contract that could have been redone.
                  They don’t get to $32 without Von’s re-work.

                  Ok, like who? Bills we’re $16M over coming into today and added $4M in cap hit with McGovern. They need money for replacements and rookies, so who are we re-working to make that space if not Von?
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                  • Woodman
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                    Originally posted by Saratoga Slim View Post
                    It's quite possible they've got some things lined up but as yet unannounced that DO require the cap space created by restructuring Von. Just speculating, but if they were going to restructure Von without a specific deal/deals in mind, they would've probably done it last week. Waiting until Monday night of the first day of legal tampering suggests that they now need the flexibility to close deals they're in on.
                    Interesting take on it.

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                    • DraftBoy
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                      Originally posted by kgun12 View Post
                      It created $32 million in cap space. So they didn’t need to do Von’s. Besides there were other contract that could have been redone.
                      Maybe we’re reading this differently.

                      Im reading it as the Bills are now approximately $12 million under the cap, not $32. They were -$16 coming in and added $4 to the cap in McGovern. Which makes $32 - $20 = $12.

                      If they cleared out to $32M in space then that’s even more awesome.
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                      • kgun12
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                        They don’t get to $32 without Von’s re-work.

                        Ok, like who? Bills we’re $16M over coming into today and added $4M in cap hit with McGovern. They need money for replacements and rookies, so who are we re-working to make that space if not Von?
                        I’ll defer to clump, I’m not that knowledgeable about the cap. I just know with Miller’s age I wouldn’t go there.

                        Milano's extension was a great move because it not only saved cap space but also brought him up to the level of Pro Bowl LBs

                        Do NOT restructure Diggs - leave his deal alone

                        Do NOT restructure Dawkins - same

                        TRADE Ed Oliver - saves $10,753,000

                        Taron Johnson: Save a little a little more than $4 million by dropping his salary to $1.25 million and also converting roster bonus (add 3 years to deal)

                        Nyheim Hines: Same as Settle - pay cut with added incentives. Save over $1 million

                        Tre'Davious White: Simple restructure (include roster bonus) with additional year added saves about $6.75 million

                        Release McKenzie: saves about $2.1 million

                        That's $24,603,000 than add Settle's and Milano's savings = about $31 million

                        Allen's simple restructure - $21 million

                        Miller's roster bonus conversion - $10,808,000

                        Approximately $63 million total thus far
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                        • YardRat
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #13
                          Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                          They don’t get to $32 without Von’s re-work.

                          Ok, like who? Bills we’re $16M over coming into today and added $4M in cap hit with McGovern. They need money for replacements and rookies, so who are we re-working to make that space if not Von?
                          I got to $31.5 million under without touching Von or Milano.

                          Under Contract---37---(reserve/future)---13 QB--Allen (Barkley) RB--Cook, Hines FB--Gilliam WR--Diggs, Davis, McKenzie,Shakir, Coulter (KS.Johnson, D.Patmon) TE--Knox, Morris (Z.Davidson) C--Morse G--Bates, OT--Dawkins, Doyle, Brown OL--(A.Anderson, G.Mancz, R.Van Demark) DT--Oliver, Jones, Settle (E.Ankou, C.Broughton, B


                          Miller only gains $10.9, they could have grabbed that a number of other ways, especially considering they already got more than halfway there with Milano, who I didn't touch.
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                          • Woodman
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                            • Apr 2014
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                            Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                            Report- Bills restructure contracts of Josh Allen, Von Miller - ProFootballTalk

                            The only link I could find.



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                            • DraftBoy
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              Re: Allen and Von Restructured - Creates $32M in Cap Space

                              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                              I got to $31.5 million under without touching Von or Milano.

                              Under Contract---37---(reserve/future)---13 QB--Allen (Barkley) RB--Cook, Hines FB--Gilliam WR--Diggs, Davis, McKenzie,Shakir, Coulter (KS.Johnson, D.Patmon) TE--Knox, Morris (Z.Davidson) C--Morse G--Bates, OT--Dawkins, Doyle, Brown OL--(A.Anderson, G.Mancz, R.Van Demark) DT--Oliver, Jones, Settle (E.Ankou, C.Broughton, B


                              Miller only gains $10.9, they could have grabbed that a number of other ways, especially considering they already got more than halfway there with Milano, who I didn't touch.
                              I can’t see them trading Oliver, it doesn’t gain them anything at this point.

                              DT market is already picked over in FA and you miss out on possibly his best year for far less than he’s probably worth.

                              Hard pass on your scenario.
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