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swiper
06-06-2023, 05:02 AM
Bills plan grass field for new stadium (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/06/06/bills-plan-grass-field-for-new-stadium/)



After half a century on artificial turf, the Bills are making plans to play on grass.

The Bills had their groundbreaking ceremony at their new stadium on Monday, and afterward General Manager Brandon Beane said the stadium will have a grass field.

“Another positive is it’s going to be grass,” Beane told Pat McAfee. “We have these debates of turf vs. grass, so that was one of the big things we pushed for. It’s going to be grass like Lambeau has, have all that coil underneath to keep the field warm. So, very excited about that.”

Most NFL players prefer grass fields, and the players’ union has argued that all fields should be grass. Owners tend to prefer artificial turf for its versatility in bringing other events to stadiums. Beane said that unlike many of the modern stadiums that have been built with the idea of attracting concerts and other major events that are easier to stage on artificial surfaces, the new stadium in Buffalo is being built with football in mind.

“It’s really going to be built football-based,” he said.

The Bills’ current stadium has always used artificial turf, since it first opened in 1973. The new stadium with the grass field is expected to be ready for use in 2026.

YardRat
06-06-2023, 05:24 AM
Well if you can't have a dome it might as well be grass.

DraftBoy
06-06-2023, 05:40 AM
Going to be some nice grounds crew jobs opening up in Buffalo closer to when the stadium opens.

Woodman
06-06-2023, 07:12 AM
Good move!!


:gobills:

Forward_Lateral
06-06-2023, 08:42 AM
Was not expecting that.

Turf should be banned in all stadiums

Goobylal
06-06-2023, 09:21 AM
Good to see they’re following through with the original announcement of a heated grass field.

Woodman
06-06-2023, 12:00 PM
Good to see they’re following through with the original announcement of a heated grass field.

Heated!! :cheers:

Skooby
06-06-2023, 07:06 PM
Heated grass = warm mud, is anyone still playing in their yard come December ?

Goobylal
06-06-2023, 07:40 PM
Heated grass = warm mud, is anyone still playing in their yard come December ?

Do the Packers play on warm mud?

Woodman
06-07-2023, 11:09 AM
Do the Packers play on warm mud?

The "Frozen Tundra"

POTLAND PSILBYLO
06-07-2023, 11:46 AM
Should go with a marijuana field.

Goobylal
06-07-2023, 12:17 PM
The "Frozen Tundra"

Not anymore...

Bill Cody
06-07-2023, 01:01 PM
Heated grass = warm mud, is anyone still playing in their yard come December ?

sigh

notacon
06-07-2023, 01:10 PM
Do the Packers play on warm mud?

Yep. The Packers play on one of the most advanced “grass” fields in the NFL.....”GrassMaster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrassMaster)”. Besides heating it, GrassMaster “reinforces a natural grass pitch by vertically inserting 20 million polypropylene (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypropylene) (PP) fibres into the soil equally spread over the entire playing field.”


It is widely used around the world for soccer stadiums (the list is extensive...see the link above) as most soccer league require grass fields.

Philadelphia is the other stadium that uses the same technology. Here is a list of the various field types (https://en.as.com/nfl/what-nfl-stadiums-have-real-grass-what-kind-of-grass-do-they-have-n-2/) for each NFL stadium....





Arizona Cardinals, State Farm Stadium, Bermuda grass
Atlanta Falcons, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, FieldTurf Revolution
Baltimore Ravens, M&T Bank Stadium, Bermuda grass
Buffalo Bills, Highmark Stadium, A-Turf Titan 50
Carolina Panthers, Bank of America Stadium, FieldTurf
Chicago Bears, Soldier Field, Kentucky bluegrass
Cincinnati Bengals, Paul Brown Stadium, UBU Speed Series S5-M Synthetic Turf
Cleveland Browns, FirstEnergy Stadium, Kentucky bluegrass
Dallas Cowboys, AT&T Stadium, Hellas Matrix Turf
Denver Broncos, Empower Field at Mile High, Kentucky bluegrass
Detroit Lions, Ford Field, FieldTurf Classic HD
Green Bay Packers, Lambeau Field, Desso GrassMaster
Houston Texans, NRG Stadium, Hellas Matrix Turf
Indianapolis Colts, Lucas Oil Stadium, Shaw Sports Momentum Pro
Jacksonville Jaguars, TIAA Bank Field, Bermuda grass
Kansas City Chiefs, Arrowhead Stadium, Bermuda grass
Las Vegas Raiders, Allegiant Stadium, Bermuda grass
Los Angeles Rams, Los Angeles Chargers, SoFi Stadium, Hellas Matrix Turf
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Raymond James Stadium, Bermuda grass
Tennessee Titans, Nissan Stadium, Bermuda grass
Washington Football Team, FedExField, Bermuda grass
New Orleans Saints, Caesars Superdome, FieldTurf Revolution 360
New York Giants, New York Jets, MetLife Stadium, UBU Sports Speed Series S5-M Synthetic Turf
Philadelphia Eagles, Lincoln Financial Field, Desso GrassMaster
Pittsburgh Steelers, Heinz Field, Kentucky bluegrass
San Francisco 49ers, Levi’s Stadium, Bermuda grass, Perennial Ryegrass mixture
Seattle Seahawks, Lumen Field, FieldTurf Revolution 360




Non-grass stadiums should be banned in the NFL. Even for domes. All grass needs to grow is water and light. With today’s LED technology it is relatively easy (but not necessary cheap) to provide artificial “sunlight”.

The last 16 years of my career was with a photo/video lighting manufacturer, and LED technology has come a long way in that time. A different division of the company developed, manufactured and sold a portable lighting system that could grow marijuana.

Large indoor marijuana fields are lit by LEDS. (https://www.ledsmagazine.com/horticultural-lighting/article/14183163/implement-light-mapping-software-from-a-plant-perspective-to-improve-cannabis-grows)


https://img.ledsmagazine.com/files/base/ebm/leds/image/2020/10/2010LED_Fre_p01_NEW.5f7caa865b3d6.png?auto=format,compress&w=1050&h=590&fit=clip


LEDS are already being used in soccer stadiums (https://sglsystem.com/EN/ALL/1074/Grow-Light-Technology) to aid in grass growth year round. This is used to maintain “pitch” quality during the winter in cold climate locations.

http://sglsystem.com/images/news/SGL-LED-allianz-arena2.jpg


Domes are not commonly used for soccer but it is not a stretch to belive that LED technology can, in fact, grow and maintain grass in a domed stadium

With the vast wealth of the NFL they could relatively easily require grass fields in the name of player safety.

Bill Cody
06-07-2023, 01:13 PM
Agree. Grass should be required in all cases. And much better helmets. The NFL's concern for player safety is not sufficient.

Woodman
06-09-2023, 06:21 AM
Should go with a marijuana field.

Munchies Field sounds about right.

Goobylal
06-09-2023, 06:55 AM
Should go with a marijuana field.

You can play a full game and then get stoned to the bejesus at home.

Woodman
06-09-2023, 09:54 PM
You can play a full game and then get stoned to the bejesus at home.

Cannonball!

POTLAND PSILBYLO
06-09-2023, 10:56 PM
Super Bowl

daryls61
06-10-2023, 12:05 PM
Epic fail not building a dome.

Goobylal
06-10-2023, 12:48 PM
Epic fail not building a dome.

Having a grass field is better.