Frazier hypothetical…

[sukie]

If he truly stepped away and is still under contract is he being paid? Bigger hypothetical. Ic Bills win the Lombardi… dies Leslie get a ring?

I say he’s not getting paid and no ring.

[swiper]

I say you're correct, because he was fired. After doing a lousy job.

Firing DC Leslie Frazier is Bills’ 1st Step to Recovering From Embarrassing Bengals Loss (https://www.sportscasting.com/bills-firing-dc-leslie-frazier-1st-step-recovering-embarrassing-bengals-loss/)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Burrow to Hurst! Two first quarter TDs for the <a href="https://twitter.com/Bengals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Bengals</a> QB<br><br>��: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CINvsBUF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CINvsBUF</a> on CBS<br>��: Stream on NFL+ <a href="https://t.co/RqOcaBu1Zc">https://t.co/RqOcaBu1Zc</a> <a href="https://t.co/JXk8lrhMaE">pic.twitter.com/JXk8lrhMaE</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1617256853729316864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


On the CBS broadcast, Tony Romo kept making excuses for the Bills D.

Yes, they were missing two of their four best players in Von Miller and Micah Hyde, but the Bengals were also missing 3/5 of their offensive line. Romo also said the Bills D-line struggled in the snow because it’s hard for D-lineman to get their footing in those conditions. However, he also praised the Bengals D-line for dominating the Bills O-line throughout the game.

Romo’s excuses aside, the truth is that the Bills defense just wasn’t good enough on the day or well-coached enough to win this game.

And it wasn’t just the defensive front. The Bills secondary played horribly, too. Bengals tight end Hayden Hurst ran wide open on a touchdown and on a key 1st down in the third quarter on the Bengals’ game-ending (for all intents and purposes) touchdown drive to go up 24-10. And only a gift of a slow-mo replay kept Ja’Marr Chase from having an incredible TD catch.

Frazier just had no answers in this game, while Bengals defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo flummoxed Allen all day.

The worst part for Bills fans about this Divisional Round performance is that it is the second year in a row that Leslie Frazier getting pantsed on national TV led to the Bills going home.

While no Bills fan needs to be reminded, Buffalo was up in last year’s Divisional Round vs. the Chiefs with 13 seconds to go. That’s when Frazier went into a conservative, prevent defense and allowed Tyreek Hill and the Chiefs to go down the field and score. That sent the game to overtime and led to Kansas City ultimately knocking Buffalo out of the playoffs.

[notacon]

Tim Crean is just another fan with an ignorant opinion. His big experience in sports (according to his bio (https://www.sportscasting.com/author/timcrean/)) is downloading a lot of podcasts and spending “countless hours listening to Mike & The Mad Dog and The Dan Patrick Show.

Whoopee!!!!

The FACT is that the “embarrassing” Cincy loss was because of the OFFENSE and NOT the defense.


Tony Romo (who actually played the game) knows what he is talking about (they are not “excuses”...they are pertinent FACTS) when he detailed the multiple challenges the Bills defense faced last year....losing two of their best players to injury....the kind of injuries the offense did not have to suffer though.

The facts and history are undeniable. When a NFL team scores 10 or less points, they LOSE...LOSE...LOSE...LOSE!!!!

If the Bills scored their usual 2022 average of 28.4 points in that game (https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team)....they win.

I have done the research and posted the FACTS (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/262408-The-Fire-McDermott-Thread?p=5000842&viewfull=1#post5000842)that are UNDENIABLE....

It is clear as can be that the OFFENCE let the team down over and over and over again.

Scoring only 10 points vs Cincy was THE problem. I today’s NFL scoring only 10 points almost assures DEFEAT.

I was curious so I did a little research. In the 2022 regular season, there were SEVENTY ONE teams that scored 10 points or less. Their W-L record in those games?.....

2-69.

Week #11….NE 10 – NYJ 3.
Week #13….BAL 10 – DEN 9.

Playoffs is even more stark. Since 2000 (including 2022 so far) there have been 45 teams that have scored 10 or less points (excluding Super Bowls). Their record??...

0-45.


The last time a team scored 10 or less points in a playoff game and won??

1997. PITT 7 – NE 6.

The Super Bowl is even MORE stark….in ALL 56 Super Bowls, one ream has scored 10 or less points SIXTEEN times. Their record????...If you are paying attention you guessed it…..

0-16.

Interestingly, the last team to score 10 or less points in a SB was not very long ago….2020 season, Tampa Bay 31 – Kansas City – 9.


Blaming Leslie Frazier and the defense is dumb.

[notacon]

BTW.....EVERY SINGLE regular season loss in 2022 was because the OFFENSE did not perform or ****ed up!!!!

Every. Single. Loss.

The OFFENSE had the ball in their hands at the end of EVERY single loss with a very good chance to win.

They FAILED every time.

[swiper]

As is typical of you, you only agree with writers that fit your stupid opinions. You are exactly like the Republicans. A hypocrite fool. Crawl back under your rock.

[daryls61]

What is with the obsession with Frazier? With the number of resources spent on the "D" they shouldn't need to play so soft. HCSM is said t be a more aggressive play caller so that might not be such a bad thing.

[Mace]

If he truly stepped away and is still under contract is he being paid? Bigger hypothetical. Ic Bills win the Lombardi… dies Leslie get a ring?

I say he’s not getting paid and no ring.

When i looked into a leave from hsbc way back...no pay or bank bonus. Would have to figure the same in this case if it's matter of choice as stated. If the organization allows it...he's basically in cold storage.

Leaves of absence are not real impossible in other corporate setting.

[sukie]

When i looked into a leave from hsbc way back...no pay or bank bonus. Would have to figure the same in this case if it's matter of choice as stated. If the organization allows it...he's basically in cold storage.

Leaves of absence are not real impossible in other corporate setting.
We never heard the phrase leave of absence. We heard “not working” for 1 year.

[Novacane]

Can we please stop talking about a coach we fired. Who gives a sheot.

[cookie G]

If the Bills take home the Lombardi...does anyone really care whether Frasier gets a ring or not?

"Everyone stop the festivities. The Bills are giving an honorary ring to Leslie Frasier!!"

Damn, people can F Up a SB parade fantasy.

[Skooby]

Hopefully he gets a ring for a Buffalo championship, I can live with this.

[DraftBoy]

How is it possible this fan base is this focused on a former DC?

[Novacane]

How is it possible this fan base is this focused on a former DC?

He was a great guy!

[notacon]

How is it possible this fan base is this focused on a former DC?

Because too many are fake “fans” and take more glee in ****ting on the Bills than supporting them.

[sukie]

Key word … “Former”.

[DraftBoy]

Because too many are fake “fans” and take more glee in ****ting on the Bills than supporting them.

You’re in no position to make any claims about anybody else’s fanhood.

[notacon]

You’re in no position to make any claims about anybody else’s fanhood.

Oh yes I do.

Mine is an accurate observation. This site has a LOT of posters that sound exactly like our rival team's fans. Negative bias and sometimes absurd criticisms. It is undeniable.


I am a true blue Bills fan who, while critical when it is warranted, do not have a dour outlook whining and ****ting on players and coaches at almost every turn.

[sukie]

I noticed the President of the Frazier Fan Club didn’t chime in on the hypothetical. Busy typing the newsletter.

[DraftBoy]

Oh yes I do.

Mine is an accurate observation. This site has a LOT of posters that sound exactly like our rival team's fans. Negative bias and sometimes absurd criticisms. It is undeniable.


I am a true blue Bills fan who, while critical when it is warranted, do not have a dour outlook whining and ****ting on players and coaches at almost every turn.

You truly don’t. The people that are the loudest about their own fanhood and how great a fan they are often among the worst of a fan base.

[YardRat]

How is it possible this fan base is this focused on a former DC?

The team hasn't replaced him with a current one, so he's still a relevant topic for discussion.

[notacon]

You truly don’t. The people that are the loudest about their own fanhood and how great a fan they are often among the worst of a fan base.

Nonsense.


The people that are the loudest about ****ting on their own team and how smart a fan they (in part because they **** on their own team) are almost always among the worst of a fan base.

[Bill Cody]

If he truly stepped away and is still under contract is he being paid? Bigger hypothetical. Ic Bills win the Lombardi… dies Leslie get a ring?

I say he’s not getting paid and no ring.

Who said he was still under contract? Whether he stepped down or fired he wouldn't be under contract.

And no he doesn't get a ring but I'm thinking if I win the $800 I'd get for my $100 SB Bills bet maybe I can have a totally fake version of one made with the proceeds. Cubic zirconia's instead of diamonds, some cheap metal instead of gold. Maybe if we got a bunch of us to order we could get a decent price. Who's with me?

[Forward_Lateral]

He’s not under contract. His expired and The Bills declined to offer him a new one. /thread

[swiper]

He’s not under contract. His expired and The Bills declined to offer him a new one. /thread

Please, for the love of God.