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  • ghz in pittsburgh
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    • Aug 2004
    • 5861

    Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

    The buzz of Kincaid is everywhere among spectators, Bills observers, and some national media. The Bills, though, have stayed relatively quiet, not hyping the rookie much.

    Cover 1 has been all over him yesterday. One nugget for those into techniques is Kincaid's smooth running athleticism. Cover 1 yesterday mentioned when watching Kincaid run and cut, you don't see that extra step before the cut commonly seen among WRs, TEs, RBs. Sure enough the next TE ran the route, they can call out when he's cutting, not with Kincaid. Just picture those NBA small forward charging towards the basket (Actually I think Kincaid played Basketball before switching to football), the body lean on every step makes the defender hard to figure out which way from the next step. I remember someone described Travis Kelce having a "loose" body in running routes, easily creating separations. Beane may have finally drafted a next level guy (non QB) IF - I stress IF - Kincaid holds up when Pads are on. Football is a physical sport. When Pads come on, there will be hitting. Some of the smooth running dudes fade when getting hit. Hopefully he's not one of them.

    I want to caution though having the smooth running and separation ability does not equate him to Kelce. There is also football intelligence department which Allen mentioned before on Kincaid that he has some growth to go yet because Kincaid picked up football not that long ago. Kincaid is already 23 and going to be 24 during the season, so not exactly a young guy any more. We'll see. Kelce is universally acknowledged for his football IQ against man and zone, and timing. Knox said one thing he learned at Tight-End U from Kelce is that if Mahomes has a 5 step drop, Kelce knows he needs to get open on his step 5; if Mahomes has a 7 step drop, he aims to get open on his step 7, not before, not after.

  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107452

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    Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

    Cover 1 is always over anybody they hype the **** out of. It serves their interest and helps them drive revenue.
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    • Forward_Lateral
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      • Mar 2004
      • 29895

      #3
      Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

      I hope he turns out to be the greatest TE of all time.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

        Let the games begin. Answers all questions.

        Media just doing their job of promotion. That's fine.
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        • Woodman
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          • Apr 2014
          • 65910

          #5
          Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

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          • notacon
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            • Aug 2012
            • 32999

            #6
            Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

            The observations from professional sports beat writers that are actually attending practice sessions are all similar.

            Wicked footwork at the snap (like ghz mentioned an outgrowth from his basketball skill set), skillful route running in not telegraphing his intentions and then walling off a defender and burst of speed to produce separation....with elite hands.

            An exciting skill set even if just during start of non-pad, non-contact first days of training camp.

            Blocking (as expected) needs a lot of work, but he was not drafted to block....although it cannot be a liability. He’ll learn.

            Games (and not pre-season ones) are what most of us are waiting on. Should be very interesting to see how quickly he is on the field early in the season.

            McDermott’s is usually very careful how much pressure and playing time he gives rookies. There have been only two since he became coach in 2017 that have had substantial snap counts in year one.

            Tre’ White - 98.56%
            Tremaine Edmunds - 91.32% (would have been higher but he left the Monday night game vs NE in week 8 at the half due to concussion and did not play in week 9 vs Chicago).

            Next higher snap count for a rookie was Zay Jones in 2017 - 75.92% Most others were below 50%.

            Dawson Knox’s rookie year had him at 60.43% for the year with Lee Smith (29.4%) and Tyler Kroft (22.83) and Tommy Sweeney (12.07%) well behind. Knox started the year around 50% and saw more action as the season progressed, eventually hitting 70%+ in week 5, and surpassing 70% for seven games.

            In contrast to 2022, when Knox had 76% snap count but missed two games. Lowest snap count was 69.1% in week 2 vs Tenn...but never went below 70% in every other game....surpassing 80% in 10 of the 15 games he was in.

            Snap count for both Knox and Kincaid will be something to watch this season.

            Should be extremely interesting and provide some insight (duh!!) on how Dorsey is going to step it up this season.

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            • ghz in pittsburgh
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              • Aug 2004
              • 5861

              #7
              Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

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              • daryls61
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                • Jan 2013
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                Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                Seems like the guy can play. Prediction - 43 rec 6 TD's. Comes on at end of year and helps raise Lombardi trophy.
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                • ghz in pittsburgh
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                  • Aug 2004
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                  #9
                  Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

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                  • Forward_Lateral
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 29895

                    #10
                    Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                    He MIGHT be what the Bills have been missing for decades, maybe forever.

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                    • notacon
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                      • Aug 2012
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                      #11
                      Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid


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                      • Woodman
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                        • Apr 2014
                        • 65910

                        #12
                        Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                        Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
                        He MIGHT be what the Bills have been missing for decades, maybe forever.
                        Very possible.

                        “It breaks your heart when someone leaves and you don’t know why.”

                        "It may be raining but there's a rainbow above you"


                        Former President Donald Trump early Thursday touted the results of a new NPR/PBSNewsHour/Marist poll showing him ahead of President Joe Biden by 8 percentage points among independents.

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                        • Historian
                          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 61720

                          #13
                          Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                          And Dawson Knox actually took a hand-off today in practice.

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                          • ghz in pittsburgh
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 5861

                            #14
                            Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                            Kincaid has 20lb over Poyer and Bernard, right?

                            Last edited by ghz in pittsburgh; 08-03-2023, 03:32 PM.

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                            • notacon
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                              • Aug 2012
                              • 32999

                              #15
                              Re: Waiting on Pads version of Kincaid

                              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                              Kincaid has 20lb over Poyer and Bernard, right?

                              Biggest challenge for any rookie TE is blocking. Everyone expected blocking to be Kincaid’s weak spot.

                              He’ll learn.

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