When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Not huge numbers but effectively.

Did you know Josh only put the ball up only 25 times? I noticed some of the big plays are from play action, definitely the last TD to Diggs.

The defense had 2 things going: 1) no big plays from the Dolphins. I posted here that I was willing to give up 2 big plays to them. Turns out none. 2) stopped Miami running the ball with front 4. Honestly I agree with Romo that Miami probably should run the ball more, particularly in the 2nd half. But with the Bills offense humming as they are today, it is tough for teams in catching up position to run the ball on us.

For a stretch of couple of weeks, I was kind of thinking maybe, just maybe Miami hit on a QB with Tua --- Maybe the media got into my head. Turns out Tua is a level below the Mahomes, Allen level. The way he folded when the game went on told me as much.

[OpIv37]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

It’s quite simple. It’s a pass happy league but offenses can’t be one dimensional. Being effective in the run game not only gets us some production but it forces defenses to respect the run, which opens up the passing game.

And, running takes time off the clock, which limits touches for a potent offense like Miami.

[sahlensguy]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

Tua is really good. Not Allen/Mahommes great but still really good. Never was in their class.Benefits from McDaniel and Hill/Waddle playing to his strengths. His play today didn't change my opinion of him. His center was out and his LT left in the 2nd qtr. Our D line was awesome today.

That said, the faith we've had in the red zone in our running game has been transformative. Will really pay dividends in December.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

My point is Tua has to play within a structure. If the structure has a hole, or not sound enough, he can not support the whole offense by himself. For guys like this, there will be defensive mind that can find cracks in that structure and ruins it. Modern NFL salary cap means there will no perfect structure for anyone.

His 70 point victory last week is an eye openner. Granted we know it is not a norm but still, for someone under center to achieve something none of the QB from Joe Montana on down was able to achieve that feat ...

[sahlensguy]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

My point is Tua has to play within a structure. If the structure has a hole, or not sound enough, he can not support the whole offense by himself. For guys like this, there will be defensive mind that can find cracks in that structure and ruins it. Modern NFL salary cap means there will no perfect structure for anyone.

His 70 point victory last week is an eye openner. Granted we know it is not a norm but still, for someone under center to achieve something none of the QB from Joe Montana on down was able to achieve that feat ...

Meh. 70 points was more of a reflection on the system than it was on Tua. He had only 3 more completions and the same number of yards in the game as Russel Wilson did, but won by 50.

[ParanoidAndroid]

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Today, Fangio's penchant for man coverage was helpful. Was it his plan to constantly leave poor Kohou out on an island vs Diggs?

Defensive genius? Not today. He got outsmarted all day long.

But yeah, clearly the run game, and particularly the guard play, has been stellar. Torrence is Beane's best O-line pick.

[Woodman]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

My point is Tua has to play within a structure. If the structure has a hole, or not sound enough, he can not support the whole offense by himself. For guys like this, there will be defensive mind that can find cracks in that structure and ruins it. Modern NFL salary cap means there will no perfect structure for anyone.

His 70 point victory last week is an eye openner. Granted we know it is not a norm but still, for someone under center to achieve something none of the QB from Joe Montana on down was able to achieve that feat ...

[Woodman]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

Today, Fangio's penchant for man coverage was helpful. Was it his plan to constantly leave poor Kohou out on an island vs Diggs?

Defensive genius? Not today. He got outsmarted all day long.

But yeah, clearly the run game, and particularly the guard play, has been stellar. Torrence is Beane's best O-line pick.

Miami defensive game plan failed it's just that simple.

Are offense stayed disciplined.

[Historian]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

Against a point-a-minute team, it controls the clock, which shortens the game.

Like the Giants did to us in SB XXV.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

So far the 12 personnel seems to help Josh to stay grounded: hand the ball off with a light box defenders and check the ball down more often to TEs and backs -- I might add the RBs receiving and YAC is way way better than Singletary and Moss. It also helps that the Bills don't play much catching up in this young season. Schematically, 12 personnel is prime for play action, and we know what play action does for Josh, but it helps the O-Line as well. All the former coaches and players said play-action slows down the D-Line, even just a bit.

I'm hoping it is more of a maturity of Josh Allen when he becomes a veteran in NFL: don't be antsy looking for a big play every 5 plays or so like he used to. Let the big plays come to you!

[notacon]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

The Bills took stock of their weaknesses on the offense and addressed them ALL.

THAT is why the most turnover was on the offense (a whopping ONE THIRD of the offensive roster)

The Bills improved the O-line....improved the RB room....improved the WR room....improved the TE room.

We are seeing the results.

[Forward_Lateral]

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It's amazing what running backs that don't miss gaping holes can do for an offense.

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The Bills took stock of their weaknesses on the offense and addressed them ALL.

THAT is why the most turnover was on the offense (a whopping ONE THIRD of the offensive roster)

The Bills improved the O-line....improved the RB room....improved the WR room....improved the TE room.

We are seeing the results.

BUT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IN THE OFFSEASON TO IMPROVE, AND MIAMI DID! JGALGJ;LAHJGSA;KLJGF

[Woodman]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

So far the 12 personnel seems to help Josh to stay grounded: hand the ball off with a light box defenders and check the ball down more often to TEs and backs

It has made a real difference ...... a good one.

[Woodman]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

The Bills improved the O-line....improved the RB room....improved the WR room....improved the TE room.

We are seeing the results.

It's really paid dividends so far.

[Woodman]

Re: When the Bills can run the ball effectively ...

Did you know Josh only put the ball up only 25 times?

This is such an important stat.