Could WR Andy Isabella be Buffalo Bills’ solution in the slot?

[Woodman]

As a vested NFL veteran, Isabella could have signed anywhere he wanted after being let go. He chose the Bills because of the fit, and what he believed he could bring to the offense. Is it time to the Buffalo Bills give Andy Isabella that opportunity?










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[BuffaloBlitz83]

[QUOTE=Woodman;5051538][COLOR=#1E1E1E][FONT=Helvetica] As a vested NFL veteran, Isabella could have signed anywhere he wanted after being let go. He chose the Bills because of the fit, and what he believed he could bring to the offense. Is it time to the Buffalo Bills give Andy Isabella that opportunity?



I think the answer is Kincaid. He has to be used better. He had his best target usage in Miami and Vegas. It helped others get open too. He was hurt vs jags and didn't play vs giants.

[Chet]

No

[Woodman]

[QUOTE=Woodman; As a vested NFL veteran, Isabella could have signed anywhere he wanted after being let go. He chose the Bills because of the fit, and what he believed he could bring to the offense. Is it time to the Buffalo Bills give Andy Isabella that opportunity?



I think the answer is Kincaid. He has to be used better. He had his best target usage in Miami and Vegas. It helped others get open too. He was hurt vs jags and didn't play vs giants.

I agree 150%

[Woodman]

No


I'll be the one to say no. :roflmao:

Andy just never made anything of his chance.

As to why who know's? :idunno:

[YardRat]

Only if Kincaid can't play.

If the TE isn't the solution then he's just another wasted pick by Beane.

[Woodman]

Only if Kincaid can't play.

If the TE isn't the solution then he's just another wasted pick by Beane.

Maybe it's our O.C. I would suggest.

[DraftBoy]

Has Isabella even seen the field for 25% of our snaps this season?

[Forward_Lateral]

Start using Kincaid.

[DraftBoy]

Start using Kincaid.

They are using him as a backup TE which is what he was drafted to be. I said it after they drafted him. Way too many fans were putting way too high of expectations on a rookie who we knew wouldn’t be a full time starter.

[Woodman]

Has Isabella even seen the field for 25% of our snaps this season?

Has he ever been active in the regular season?

[Woodman]

Start using Kincaid.


I wish they would ..... O.C. fail :idunno:

[TigerJ]

If I remember correctly, Harty had a good play last Sunday, but they have been few and far between. I agree that Kincaid probably needs to step up and when the Bills use someone in the slot it should be Kincaid more than half the time, but on snaps where Kincaid is not on the field, the Bills could use someone who would be effective as a change of pace receiver in the slot. If Harty is not more effective than he's been, I could see Buffalo experimenting to see if Isabella can give them a spark.

[acehole]

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I agree 150%

I also agree 153.4 %.

[Forward_Lateral]

They are using him as a backup TE which is what he was drafted to be. I said it after they drafted him. Way too many fans were putting way too high of expectations on a rookie who we knew wouldn’t be a full time starter.

He’s a 1st round pick. If you are drafting 1st round picks to be backups, you should be fired

[DraftBoy]

He’s a 1st round pick. If you are drafting 1st round picks to be backups, you should be fired

It was clear from the moment they made the pick he was going to be a backup. Anybody who thought differently was just trying to convince themselves of something that wasn’t real.

[sukie]

The problem in my opinion isn’t slot. It’s WR2.

yes 3-5 aren’t either contributing or being targeted but Gabe Davis is decent but not someone that needs to be game planned around. It’s Allen Diggs.

if number 2 was a star then the whole secondary has an issue which opens up slot routes and TEs.

If Diggs is successfully taken away it’s a long day. As great as the D is playing. Money dictated a lack of WR upgrading.

trade deadline is 31st 4 pm… let’s see what shakes out.

[Woodman]

[QUOTE=Woodman;5051570]

I also agree 153.4 %.

You beat me. :cheers:

[Woodman]

The problem in my opinion isn’t slot. It’s WR2.

yes 3-5 aren’t either contributing or being targeted but Gabe Davis is decent but not someone that needs to be game planned around. It’s Allen Diggs.

if number 2 was a star then the whole secondary has an issue which opens up slot routes and TEs.

If Diggs is successfully taken away it’s a long day. As great as the D is playing. Money dictated a lack of WR upgrading.

trade deadline is 31st 4 pm… let’s see what shakes out.

Gabe is like a 2.75 and every once and awhile a 2.36 ..... he could be better making us better.

Should we make a move before the trade deadline ..... the prices for the obvious choices are probably just too damn high kinda like the rent.

[Woodman]

It was clear from the moment they made the pick he was going to be a backup. Anybody who thought differently was just trying to convince themselves of something that wasn’t real.

When and if we ever use him the way we should we will be extremely excited as Bills fans to have two effective TE's ..... different skillsets to be sure ..... but I see production production production if done properly ..... is our O.C. the right guy to get that result?

We gotta reduce the Diggs targets (thereby keeping him healthy) and Josh's dependency of him to a more reasonable level "spread the wealth".

Love Diggs but it's just too damn obvious .... just make it a little less glaringly obvious.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

He’s a 1st round pick. If you are drafting 1st round picks to be backups, you should be fired

He’s the starter in a 2 TE set typically. He has more catches than Knox even with missing 1.5 games

[Chet]

It was clear from the moment they made the pick he was going to be a backup. Anybody who thought differently was just trying to convince themselves of something that wasn’t real.

Are you talking about just the short term or his overall career projection?

[notacon]

They are using him as a backup TE which is what he was drafted to be. I said it after they drafted him. Way too many fans were putting way too high of expectations on a rookie who we knew wouldn’t be a full time starter.
Except Kincaid was NOT drafted to be a "backup TE".

The Bills used 12 personnel a league low 4% of the time in 2022. So far this season they are using it 8th highest at 34.8%.

I'm not sure what percentage he's been used as slot receiver, but to say he was drafted as a "backup TE" is just silly.

Being a rookie, it may take time for Dorsey to use him more effectively in the pass game. What we DO know is that he catches almost everything that comes his way.

He has been targeted 19 times and caught 17 of them. A 89.47% rate....best of all pass catchers.

The worst?? Knox. 25/14, a dismal 56% rate.


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Targets
Catches
%


Diggs
66
49
74.24%


Davis
30
21
70.00%


Knox
25
14
56.00%


Kinkaid
19
17
89.47%


Cook
18
14
77.78%


Harty
15
12
80.00%

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[DraftBoy]

Except Kincaid was NOT drafted to be a "backup TE".

The Bills used 12 personnel a league low 4% of the time in 2022. So far this season they are using it 8th highest at 34.8%.

I'm not sure what percentage he's been used as slot receiver, but to say he was drafted as a "backup TE" is just silly.

Being a rookie, it may take time for Dorsey to use him more effectively in the pass game. What we DO know is that he catches almost everything that comes his way.

He has been targeted 19 times and caught 17 of them. A 89.47% rate....best of all pass catchers.

The worst?? Knox. 25/14, a dismal 56% rate.


<tbody>

Targets
Catches
%


Diggs
66
49
74.24%


Davis
30
21
70.00%


Knox
25
14
56.00%


Kinkaid
19
17
89.47%


Cook
18
14
77.78%


Harty
15
12
80.00%

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Like I said he’s the backup TE, even in 12 personnel we’re only running it 1/3 of the time. Knox is the starter at TE, Kincaid his backup. There is no denying that reality.

[DraftBoy]

Are you talking about just the short term or his overall career projection?

Short term, he’ll eventually unseat Knox.

[Woodman]

He’s the starter in a 2 TE set typically. He has more catches than Knox even with missing 1.5 games
Love to see 6-8 receptions ..... 95 yards and a score.

[sukie]

Next year , if reading it correctly post June first cut would be 3.9m dead cap with savings of 10.5m on his 14.4 salary (Knox that is)

[Woodman]

Next year , if reading it correctly post June first cut would be 3.9m dead cap with savings of 10.5m on his 14.4 salary (Knox that is)
He has work to do .........

[notacon]

Like I said he’s the backup TE, even in 12 personnel we’re only running it 1/3 of the time. Knox is the starter at TE, Kincaid his backup. There is no denying that reality.

No, he's not.

[Mr. Pink]

Isabella is a guy barely hanging on in the league. :rofl: