Why Did Bucs Punter, Jake Camarda Escape Ejection????

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Bucs punter Jake Camarda escapes penalty or ejection for swinging his helmet (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/bucs-punter-jake-camarda-escapes-penalty-or-ejection-for-swinging-his-helmet)



Last night’s game between the Buccaneers and the Bills included a strange moment after Tampa Bay kicker Chase McLaughlin connected on a 57-yard field goal.

A skirmish emerged. And it culminated in Bucs punter Jake Camarda removing his helmet and swinging it (https://x.com/TannerPhiferNFL/status/1717714000970953070?s=20). The helmet makes contact with the helmet of Bills pass rusher Greg Rousseau and the arm of Bills linebacker Terrell Bernard (who seemed to be shoving Camarda’s face mask just before Camarda weaponized his entire helmet).

Flags were thrown. Ultimately, no penalty was called.

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</code></samp>You are not supposed to EVER even take off your helmet on the field.

Swinging your helmet at another player is an extremely SERIOUS and dangerous illegal (of NFL rules) act. Camarda should have been EJECTED. Period.

He was allowed to punt FOUR MORE times after that incident. Not having a punter would have changed the game significantly.


The NFL rules concerning taking your helmet off is UNEQUIVOCAL (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/from-pftpm-a-look-at-the-rule-against-removing-the-helmet)....



The rule includes this language: “Removal of his helmet by a player in the field of play or the end zone during a celebration or demonstration, or during a confrontation with a game official or any other player.”

It is not a judgment call. It’s automatic, with no discretion or exceptions.

The NFL rule book, Rule 12, Section 2, Article 17 (https://operations.nfl.com/media/3831/2019-playing-rules.pdf)....


ARTICLE 17. USE OF HELMET AS A WEAPON. A player may not use a helmet that is no longer worn by anyone as a weapon to strike, swing at, or throw at an opponent.

Penalty: For illegal use of a helmet as a weapon: Loss of 15 yards and automatic disqualification. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down.

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If he does not get suspended SEVERAL games, the NFL has a lot of explaining to do.


As it is, the referees handed the Bucs a HUGE advantage by NOT enforcing what is suppsed to be a sacrosanct rule. <style>@font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:roman; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536870145 1107305727 0 0 415 0;}@font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536859905 -1073732485 9 0 511 0;}@font-face {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-1593833729 1073750107 16 0 415 0;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:#222222;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; mso-themecolor:hyperlink; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; mso-themecolor:followedhyperlink; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;}p {mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman",serif; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}span.linkenhancement {mso-style-name:linkenhancement; mso-style-unhide:no;}.MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; mso-default-props:yes; font-size:10.5pt; mso-ansi-font-size:10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-ascii-font-family:Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Verdana; color:#222222; mso-font-kerning:0pt; mso-ligatures:none;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}</style><iframe scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.d37472b4a6622d0b1fff46ad904f6896.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billszone.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe><iframe scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.d37472b4a6622d0b1fff46ad904f6896.html?origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billszone.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;"></iframe><iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: medium;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe>

[OpIv37]

I was wondering the same thing. I don't think he took it off intentionally- it looked like one of the Bills players knocked it off or at least pushed it most of the way off and he just finished the job. IMO the Bills player should have been flagged for unnecessary roughness and Carmada should have been flagged and ejected. I couldn't believe there were no penalties from that scrum.

[mightysimi]

In fact they threw a flag and picked it up.

Garrett got 6 games.

[sahlensguy]

He took it off or Bernard helped him remove it? Either way I was good with it.

[Forward_Lateral]

It definitely looked like he swung it at Rousseau, and Rous was like WTF dude you can't do that.

The fact that they picked up the flag just shows how incompetent NFL officiating is.

[sahlensguy]

Cmon. Lawson took his helmet off too. Play on!

[OpIv37]

Cmon. Lawson took his helmet off too. Play on!

It's a stupid rule, but it's a rule. Also, I don't really care that there wasn't a flag for taking the helmet off but he still should have been flagged and ejected for the swing.

[sahlensguy]

It's a stupid rule, but it's a rule. Also, I don't really care that there wasn't a flag for taking the helmet off but he still should have been flagged and ejected for the swing.

I did think it looked like Bernard pushed the helmet up at :53, and that Lawson did take his own off. Refs called it a wash and let them play on.

[Mr. Pink]

Bernard took Camarada's helmet off.

[OpIv37]

I did think it looked like Bernard pushed the helmet up at :53, and that Lawson did take his own off. Refs called it a wash and let them play on.

A helmet swing should be an immediate ejection, period.

[DraftBoy]

On replay it didn’t really look like he swung it as much as he took it off with fast since it was already being pushed off.

I thought the flag being picked up made sense after the replay.

[acehole]

Bucs punter Jake Camarda escapes penalty or ejection for swinging his helmet (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/bucs-punter-jake-camarda-escapes-penalty-or-ejection-for-swinging-his-helmet)




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</code></samp>You are not supposed to EVER even take off your helmet on the field.

Swinging your helmet at another player is an extremely SERIOUS and dangerous illegal (of NFL rules) act. Camarda should have been EJECTED. Period.

He was allowed to punt FOUR MORE times after that incident. Not having a punter would have changed the game significantly.


The NFL rules concerning taking your helmet off is UNEQUIVOCAL (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/from-pftpm-a-look-at-the-rule-against-removing-the-helmet)....


The NFL rule book, Rule 12, Section 2, Article 17 (https://operations.nfl.com/media/3831/2019-playing-rules.pdf)....

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If he does not get suspended SEVERAL games, the NFL has a lot of explaining to do.


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Most likely a part of the Biden crime family or from that party.

They can do anything they want and blame the other guy for doing it.

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Bucs punter Jake Camarda escapes penalty or ejection for swinging his helmet (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/bucs-punter-jake-camarda-escapes-penalty-or-ejection-for-swinging-his-helmet)




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</code></samp>You are not supposed to EVER even take off your helmet on the field.

Swinging your helmet at another player is an extremely SERIOUS and dangerous illegal (of NFL rules) act. Camarda should have been EJECTED. Period.

He was allowed to punt FOUR MORE times after that incident. Not having a punter would have changed the game significantly.


The NFL rules concerning taking your helmet off is UNEQUIVOCAL (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/from-pftpm-a-look-at-the-rule-against-removing-the-helmet)....


The NFL rule book, Rule 12, Section 2, Article 17 (https://operations.nfl.com/media/3831/2019-playing-rules.pdf)....

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If he does not get suspended SEVERAL games, the NFL has a lot of explaining to do.


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[notacon]

Cmon. Lawson took his helmet off too. Play on!

Lawson did not use the helmet as a weapon. BIG difference.

Plus, Camarda took his OWN helmet off (but, it is irrelevant to the rules who took the helmet off) and HIT two players with it. He clocked Rousseau directly on his (helmeted) head.

The rules are quite clear. The disqualification is AUTOMATIC. There is NO judgement call. When NY looked at the video replay, they should have told the on field refs to EJECT him immediately.

Period.

[notacon]

Read the rule again....it's unequivocal...Camarda should have been immediately disqualified.

ARTICLE 17. USE OF HELMET AS A WEAPON. A player may not use a helmet that is no longer worn by anyone as a weapon to strike, swing at, or throw at an opponent.

Penalty: For illegal use of a helmet as a weapon: Loss of 15 yards and automatic disqualification. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down.

[notacon]

Jesus. A player does not even have to make contact with anything to get ejected. Simply swinging the helmet at an opponent is grounds for ejection.

Camarda not only swung the helmet he did, in fact, "strike" an opponent with it.

[sahlensguy]

Read the rule again....it's unequivocal...Camarda should have been immediately disqualified.

ARTICLE 17. USE OF HELMET AS A WEAPON. A player may not use a helmet that is no longer worn by anyone as a weapon to strike, swing at, or throw at an opponent.

Penalty: For illegal use of a helmet as a weapon: Loss of 15 yards and automatic disqualification. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down.

Ok. Grout should get hit in the head.

[Woodman]

They were supposed to make the call .... i'm sure that won't be the end of it for them.

[DetoxTent]

The NFL is fixed.

[Goobylal]

The refs sucks. It’s the same crew that screwed the Bills two years ago in Tampa.

[notacon]

The refs sucks. It’s the same crew that screwed the Bills two years ago in Tampa.

That may be. But NY (NFL replay official) has the ability and responsibility to watch the video and disqualify a player. They failed. Which is pretty common with the NFL.

[Forward_Lateral]

After watching it again, I retract my opinion. It looked like he had his helmet ripped off and was trying to grab it.

[Goobylal]

After watching it again, I retract my opinion. It looked like he had his helmet ripped off and was trying to grab it.

It might have been getting pushed up but he definitely grabbed it and swung it.

[notacon]

After watching it again, I retract my opinion. It looked like he had his helmet ripped off and was trying to grab it.

Watch it again. Freeze frame it as the slo-mo shows, quite clearly what happened.

With his right hand, Camarda took his own helmet off, and proceeded to bring it forward right onto a Bills player's (Rousseau) head.

There is no judgment call. He should have been immediately disqualified.

Period.