2023 NFL Trade Deadline Tracker: Latest news, rumors and updates

[Woodman]

2023 NFL Trade Deadline Tracker- Latest news, rumors and updates - NBC Sports (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/2023-nfl-trade-deadline-tracker-latest-news-rumors-and-updates)

The NFL trade deadline is at 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday, October 31, and PFT has you covered with news and analysis of every trade, potential trade, rumor of a trade and trade that won’t be happening.

Here’s what’s happening on the NFL trade front:

Amid talk thatDerrick Henry could be traded (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/derrick-henry-im-a-titan-and-im-happy-to-be-a-titan), he said he’s happy to remain a Titan. The Titans reportedly told Henry they don’t plan to trade him (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-titans-tell-derrick-henry-they-dont-plan-to-trade-him).

There’s also been trade talk around DeAndre Hopkins (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/will-the-titans-keep-deandre-hopkins-past-the-trade-deadline).

With Will Levis expected to keep starting (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-will-levis-is-expected-to-start-thursday-vs-steelers) in Tennessee, Ryan Tannehill’s name could come up in trade talks.

[Woodman]

San Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan indicated he [doesn’t think the 49ers need (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kyle-shanahan-we-have-the-answers-in-our-building) to do any work at the trade deadline.

Kyler Murray get traded to the Vikings (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/how-about-kyler-murray-to-the-vikings) after Kirk Cousins’ injury?

The Vikings don’t have many good options (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/if-kirk-cousins-is-done-for-the-year-what-are-the-vikings-options) to find a new starting quarterback in the middle of the season.

The Panthers are unlikely to trade Brian Burns (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brian-burnss-contract-expectations-make-a-trade-unlikely), as a result of his contractual demands.

The Vikings won’t move Danielle Hunter unless they’re blown away by a trade offer (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/vikings-wont-move-danielle-hunter-unless-theyre-blown-away-with-an-offer).

The Falcons offered a third-round pick (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/falcons-have-offered-a-third-round-pick-for-montez-sweat) for Montez Sweat.

The Commanders reportedly got calls about trading Jonathan Allen (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-commanders-got-calls-on-jonathan-allen-but-wont-trade-him), but aren’t interested in moving him.

There’s a rumor that Washington could trade Chase Young to Chicago (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/rumor-makes-the-rounds-of-chase-young-to-the-bears).

[Woodman]

Seahawks acquire Leonard Williams for 2024 second-round, 2025 fifth-round picks

[YardRat]

Seattle had the space to fit the rest of his salary under the cap.

[DetoxTent]

Seattle had the space to fit the rest of his salary under the cap.

Giants are paying him $10 million this season, Seahawks < $650,000. The Bills should have and could have made this trade.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38780715/sources-giants-trade-dl-leonard-williams-seahawks

[Woodman]

Giants are paying him $10 million this season, Seahawks < $650,000. The Bills should have and could have made this trade.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38780715/sources-giants-trade-dl-leonard-williams-seahawks

If those numbers are right Beane ****ed up.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

A gabe davis and 1st for davante adams. Can that financially work?

[Woodman]

A gabe davis and 1st for davante adams. Can that financially work?
Why not go for Jefferson from Minnesota that guys a killer ..... after watching the game tonight I bet Adams will beg to get out ..... I just wouldn't give a 1st and Gabe for him. Gabe and 2nd 2024 and 2025.

That would be a blockbuster.

[Woodman]

Seattle had the space to fit the rest of his salary under the cap.

They stole him .... we really ****ed up by not getting into this opportunity.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

They stole him .... we really ****ed up by not getting into this opportunity.

Don't think it was stolen. A 2 and 5 for 1 year rental. I think he's a free agent

[Forward_Lateral]

They stole him .... we really ****ed up by not getting into this opportunity.

That's not a steal at all.

He's a free agent after the year, and he's been absolute trash the last 2 years.

Seattle got hosed

[Buffalogic]

That's not a steal at all.

He's a free agent after the year, and he's been absolute trash the last 2 years.

Seattle got hosedThis

[Woodman]

Bears give Jaylon Johnson permission to seek a trade


Bears cornerback Jaylon Johnson could be dealt before today’s NFL trade deadline.

Johnson has been given permission to seek a trade, according to multiple reports.

The 24-year-old Johnson was a second-round pick in 2020 and is in the final year of his rookie contract. He and the Bears have reportedly been far apart in negotiations on an extension, and if the Bears think he’s going to leave in free agency in March anyway, it makes more sense to move him now, assuming they can get more for him than the potential compensatory pick they could get if another team signs him.

[Woodman]

That's not a steal at all.

He's a free agent after the year, and he's been absolute trash the last 2 years.

Seattle got hosed

Now I feel better.

[Chet]

Can we trade Dorsey for a washing machine a la Semi-Pro?

[Woodman]

Can we trade Dorsey for a washing machine a la Semi-Pro?

I'd trade Jimmy Dorsey for Glenn Miller ....... str8 up .... i'll call him Jimmy for this exercise.


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[Canadian'eh!]

Bears give Jaylon Johnson permission to seek a trade


Bears cornerback Jaylon Johnson could be dealt before today’s NFL trade deadline.

Johnson has been given permission to seek a trade, according to multiple reports.

The 24-year-old Johnson was a second-round pick in 2020 and is in the final year of his rookie contract. He and the Bears have reportedly been far apart in negotiations on an extension, and if the Bears think he’s going to leave in free agency in March anyway, it makes more sense to move him now, assuming they can get more for him than the potential compensatory pick they could get if another team signs him.
This is the one I want.

[Forward_Lateral]

This is the one I want.

If they get him, you called it

[Turf]

Bears give Jaylon Johnson permission to seek a trade


Bears cornerback Jaylon Johnson could be dealt before today’s NFL trade deadline.

Johnson has been given permission to seek a trade, according to multiple reports.

The 24-year-old Johnson was a second-round pick in 2020 and is in the final year of his rookie contract. He and the Bears have reportedly been far apart in negotiations on an extension, and if the Bears think he’s going to leave in free agency in March anyway, it makes more sense to move him now, assuming they can get more for him than the potential compensatory pick they could get if another team signs him.

Beanne really needs to jump in on this one. Rumored asking price is 2 2nd day draft picks. Maybe Elam and a 2nd or 3rd gets it done. Rated as highest CB in NFL. I think there is a deal there to be made.

[Canadian'eh!]

Beanne really needs to jump in on this one. Rumored asking price is 2 2nd day draft picks. Maybe Elam and a 2nd or 3rd gets it done. Rated as highest CB in NFL. I think there is a deal there to be made.

Rumours out there that Bills, 49ers and Steelers are interested, SI saying Pittsburgh are “leading”

[Mr. Pink]

Johnson is likely going to want a HUGE megadollar megayear contract extension when it comes to a trading partner.

If we do pull the trigger on him, expect him to get a ridiculous contract extension to the tune of 18ish million per year and expect Tre White to reach an injury settlement.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Johnson is likely going to want a HUGE megadollar megayear contract extension when it comes to a trading partner.

If we do pull the trigger on him, expect him to get a ridiculous contract extension to the tune of 18ish million per year and expect Tre White to reach an injury settlement.

Looks like levi wallace may be moved. Would be be a minor upgrade?

[Canadian'eh!]

Rumours out there that Bills, 49ers and Steelers are interested, SI saying Pittsburgh are “leading”

Add Philly to the rumours list.

[Canadian'eh!]

Johnson is likely going to want a HUGE megadollar megayear contract extension when it comes to a trading partner.

If we do pull the trigger on him, expect him to get a ridiculous contract extension to the tune of 18ish million per year and expect Tre White to reach an injury settlement.
He clearly wants to get paid, and is worth a big contract…. BUT I doubt it will be close to whatever a guy like Surtain will get. As good as he is, he’s not playing man to man style D. That said. 18 mil or so seems about right.

[notacon]

This is the one I want.

Yep. Joe Buscaglia was all over that idea yesterday when he wrote this (https://theathletic.com/5014080/2023/10/30/nfl-trade-deadline-buffalo-bills/)....


Cornerbacks

With Tre’Davious White out for the rest of the season (https://theathletic.com/4922992/2023/10/02/bills-tredavious-white-achilles-injury/), 2022 first-round pick Kaiir Elam falling further down the depth chart and uneven play from fill-in starter Dane Jackson, cornerback has emerged as a potential trade deadline target. Only second-year starter Christian Benford has emerged as a key piece moving forward. On top of the roster logic, The Athletic’s NFL insider Dianna Russini reported over the weekend (https://theathletic.com/5007267/2023/10/28/nfl-week-8-news-trade-deadline/) that the Bills would be scanning the cornerback market, and these names on selling teams make some sense.

Jaylon Johnson (https://theathletic.com/nfl/player/jaylon-johnson-i85xaNU3yrXA5JW3/), Bears
(https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/bears/)
The Bears once again face another lost season and may face a similar situation with an excellent young defender as they did last year with linebacker Roquan Smith (https://theathletic.com/nfl/player/roquan-smith-OkyvmIUSQqk1rUXH/). Jaylon Johnson fits what the Bills seek in an impact cornerback. He’s an effortless fit into their zone scheme, with the athleticism to get everywhere he needs, the long arms to disrupt passing lanes and has shown to be a good tackler this season. And when the Bills want to put extra heat on the opposition and go into man coverage, Johnson has that ability to go one-on-one and win. The Bills don’t have that flexibility as much with Dane Jackson (https://theathletic.com/nfl/player/dane-jackson-ZB4Fl2ADVvPTSjqC/) in the lineup. Johnson’s cap hit is also excellent, adding only $1.59 million to the Bills’ cap. But it would be costly from a compensation perspective. The Bills likely need to provide a Day 2 pick as a starting point, so it really boils down to the long-term plan.

Elam appears to be a sunk cost and likely no longer figures significantly into the situation. It wouldn’t be a surprise for him to get put into a trade to help push the deal, or any deal, across the line. It isn’t a long-term question about Elam but rather about White, who enters his age-29 season in 2024 coming off his second major injury in three years. A torn Achilles, generally speaking, is usually close to a year of rehab, which would put him right at the beginning of next year. And for players relying on speed and explosiveness with that injury as cornerbacks do, there’s always the concern of regaining the same playing level. The Bills also have a potential out, able to save over $6 million on next year’s salary cap — and over $10 million if they designate it as a post-June 1 release. There is an emotional connection from the franchise to White as the first draft pick of the Sean McDermott era, but the cold business and football logic could argue to move on.


If the Bills traded for the 24-year-old Johnson, they’d need to have one of two strategies in mind. They could sign him to a long-term deal to be their top corner to make it worth the cost of the draft pick, knowing they’re likely to get a third-round pick back in 2024 due to the compensatory formula. Or, they could get him as a rental player in 2023, maintain his rights heading into the offseason of his free agency and potentially recoup a high-level compensatory pick for him in 2025. There’s no denying the fit. It all depends on the Bills’ long-term plan at cornerback.

He's a perfect fit for the Bills.


Other players mentioned....

CB's:
Kendall Fuller, Washington
Adoree' Jackson, NYG
Donte Jackson, Carlonia


DT's:
Teair Tart, Tennessee
Harrison Phillips, Minny
John Jenkins, Las Vegas

Some LB's were mentioned almost in passing....Devin White, TB....Devin Bush, Seattle and Josey Jewell, Denver

Same with WR's with minimal need....no big swing if any but he mentions....Darnell Mooney, Chicago....Parris Campbell, NYG and Hunter Renfrow, Las Vegas.


Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock...

[Mr. Pink]

Browns trade WR Donovan Peoples-Jones to the Lions for a 6th

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/browns-trade-wr-donovan-peoples-jones-to-lions-acquire-2025-6th-round-pick

Solid but unspectacular guy. For that compensation wouldn't have minded him here.

[ParanoidAndroid]

*crickets

[Luisito23]

*crickets

Just like every other year Buddy Nix...I mean, Brandon Beane has been here.

[Chet]

Yep. Joe Buscaglia was all over that idea yesterday when he wrote this (https://theathletic.com/5014080/2023/10/30/nfl-trade-deadline-buffalo-bills/)....



He's a perfect fit for the Bills.


Other players mentioned....

CB's:
Kendall Fuller, Washington
Adoree' Jackson, NYG
Donte Jackson, Carlonia


DT's:
Teair Tart, Tennessee
Harrison Phillips, Minny
John Jenkins, Las Vegas

Some LB's were mentioned almost in passing....Devin White, TB....Devin Bush, Seattle and Josey Jewell, Denver

Same with WR's with minimal need....no big swing if any but he mentions....Darnell Mooney, Chicago....Parris Campbell, NYG and Hunter Renfrow, Las Vegas.


Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock...

I’d take a flyer on Renfrow

[Chet]

Just like every other year Buddy Nix...I mean, Brandon Beane has been here.
Take that negativity elsewhere. I’m sure we’ll make up for it by trading up late in the first round for a player that would be available well into the 2nd or 3rd

[Das_Bills]

Rasul Douglas to the bills

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[Canadian'eh!]

Conflicting reports that Jaylon Johnson is going to Steelers, and that he will not be traded

[Chet]

Rosul Douglas to the bills
Link?

[Turf]

https://twitter.com/BfloFanatics/status/1719437408540729482

[Chet]

Wow, Wikipedia already reflecting he’s a Bill, lol

[BillsOwnAll]

Ian rapo twitter

[Woodman]

Packers trade Rasul Douglas to Bills (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/packers-trade-rasul-douglas-to-bills)

The Packers have traded Douglas to the Bills just before the NFL trade deadline, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.
The 28-year-old Douglas originally entered the NFL as a 2017 third-round pick of the Eagles and has also spent time with the Panthers, Raiders, Texans and Cardinals before joining the Packers. Douglas has started all seven games this season.
For the Packers, it’s another reminder that this is a rebuilding season in Green Bay: They’re not going anywhere this year, and they’d rather acquire a draft pick than keep a veteran.

[Chet]

I hope this isn’t our wow or splash play

[Chet]

Packers trade Rasul Douglas to Bills (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/packers-trade-rasul-douglas-to-bills)

The Packers have traded Douglas to the Bills just before the NFL trade deadline, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network.
The 28-year-old Douglas originally entered the NFL as a 2017 third-round pick of the Eagles and has also spent time with the Panthers, Raiders, Texans and Cardinals before joining the Packers. Douglas has started all seven games this season.
For the Packers, it’s another reminder that this is a rebuilding season in Green Bay: They’re not going anywhere this year, and they’d rather acquire a draft pick than keep a veteran.
Should have known

[mightysimi]

Douglas and a 5th for a 3rd. Yikes. I hope he plays well for that pick.

[Canadian'eh!]

Douglas and a 5th for a 3rd. Yikes. I hope he plays well for that pick.
He’s not Johnson but a solid pickup. Packers fans are upset, they liked him.

price is higher than id like for a guy that’s 27-28.

[Luisito23]

Douglas and a 5th for a 3rd. Yikes. I hope he plays well for that pick.

He's a good player, and has been since he's been in the league.

It's a fair trade, I think.

[sukie]

Isn’t that a compensatory 3rd anyway?

[BuffaloBlitz83]

He's a good player, and has been since he's been in the league.

It's a fair trade, I think.

Wonder why we didn't try for Sweat or Young

[Woodman]

Wow did we ever need a competent corner .... 7 year vet I like it.

[Woodman]

Report: Jaylon Johnson will remain with Bears

[Chet]

How many years are left on his deal?

[Woodman]

Some great news inside the division.

Report: Jets agree to terms with veteran OL Rodger Saffold

[Luisito23]

Wonder why we didn't try for Sweat or Young

Yeah, though DE is not really what we needed, I still wish they would've gotten one of them.

[Woodman]

Some great news inside the division.

Report: Jets agree to terms with veteran OL Rodger Saffold

Biggest :jetsuck:

[Woodman]

Commanders trade Chase Young to 49ers (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/commanders-trade-chase-young-to-49ers)

There’s a Ohio State Buckeyes reunion coming to the Bay Area.
The 49ers have traded for defensive end Chase Young, according to multiple reports.
San Francisco will send Washington a third-round pick to complete the trade.
Young, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2020 draft, has recorded 5.0 sacks, six tackles for loss, and nine quarterback hits in seven games for the Commanders this year. He played only 12 games in the past two seasons due to a knee injury, but has been healthy in 2023.

[Mad Max]

Some Packer fan reactions to the trade for perspective on Rasul Douglas:

“Literally why” “one of my favorite packers as of lately”

“NOOO”

“…I get it but man I loved him”

“WHATT”

”WHYYY?”

“How am I supposed to trick or treat after this”

“officially tanking”

“You’ve gotta be kidding me”

“Leader of the locker room and he’s gone”


From people that presumably watch the Packers I love those responses!
BTW bears fans are loving it too, also a very good sign.

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1719437146308616672?s=46

[Mad Max]

Commanders trade Chase Young to 49ers (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/commanders-trade-chase-young-to-49ers)

There’s a Ohio State Buckeyes reunion coming to the Bay Area.
The 49ers have traded for defensive end Chase Young, according to multiple reports.
San Francisco will send Washington a third-round pick to complete the trade.
Young, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2020 draft, has recorded 5.0 sacks, six tackles for loss, and nine quarterback hits in seven games for the Commanders this year. He played only 12 games in the past two seasons due to a knee injury, but has been healthy in 2023.

9ers shooting their shot. Gotta respect that. Last year Mcaffrey this year Young.

Young with Bosa on the other side could be deadly.

[Mad Max]

Biggest :jetsuck:

I hope he starts in our final game against them.

[Woodman]

I hope he starts in our final game against them.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT :D

[Mad Max]

THAT WOULD BE GREAT :D

Not for them it won’t be :)

[Woodman]

Not for them it won’t be :)

They didn't look at any recent film or they are extremely desperate.

[DetoxTent]

Wonder why we didn't try for Sweat or Young

They might have. It was all about value with those two. They were both on expiring contracts. Bills are getting Von Miller back into game shape and do not need a DE.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Commanders trade Chase Young to 49ers (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/commanders-trade-chase-young-to-49ers)

There’s a Ohio State Buckeyes reunion coming to the Bay Area.
The 49ers have traded for defensive end Chase Young, according to multiple reports.
San Francisco will send Washington a third-round pick to complete the trade.
Young, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2020 draft, has recorded 5.0 sacks, six tackles for loss, and nine quarterback hits in seven games for the Commanders this year. He played only 12 games in the past two seasons due to a knee injury, but has been healthy in 2023.

Chase Young is Donald Trump’s favorite player

[Woodman]

Chase Young is Donald Trump’s favorite player

Herschel Walker was his favorite by a mile.

[Historian]

“How am I supposed to trick or treat after this”



I almost spit coffee out of my nose on that one!

:rofl:

[notacon]

Giants are paying him $10 million this season, Seahawks < $650,000. The Bills should have and could have made this trade.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38780715/sources-giants-trade-dl-leonard-williams-seahawks

For an under-performing D-lineman???? No freakin' way. Williams is NOT worth a second round pick, much less a second AND a fifth round pick.

The need at DL was there, but not nearly as much as CB. All reports have Beane furiously working the phones for a CB. And he came up with a HUGE one.

[Woodman]

I almost spit coffee out of my nose on that one!

:rofl:

Gotta admit that was spot on.

I shoulda came up with that one for sure or you. :cheers:

[Woodman]

The need at DL was there, but not nearly as much as CB. All reports have Beane furiously working the phones for a CB. And he came up with a HUGE one.


If we could get one or the other I'm pleased how it all worked out!!!

It takes 2 to tango.

This was not an easy decision for the Packers to make.

[notacon]

Some Packer fan reactions to the trade for perspective on Rasul Douglas:

“Literally why” “one of my favorite packers as of lately”

“NOOO”

“…I get it but man I loved him”

“WHATT”

”WHYYY?”

“How am I supposed to trick or treat after this”

“officially tanking”

“You’ve gotta be kidding me”

“Leader of the locker room and he’s gone”


From people that presumably watch the Packers I love those responses!
BTW bears fans are loving it too, also a very good sign.

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1719437146308616672?s=46


There are reports that Beane started looking for a CB since week 4 after Tre' went down. The Bills' director of player personnel, Terrance Grey contacted the Packers sometime after week 4. At first they said they were not letting him go because of his importance to the team.

Beane then got directly involved the week before the deadline, kept at it and (obviously) eventually came up with a deal.

The point is that Douglas was highly regarded by the Packers organization. But, in the end, the NFL is a business.

[Woodman]

There are reports that Beane started looking for a CB since week 4 after Tre' went down. The Bills' director of player personnel, Terrance Grey contacted the Packers sometime after week 4. At first they said they were not letting him go because of his importance to the team.

Beane then got directly involved the week before the deadline, kept at it and (obviously) eventually came up with a deal.

The point is that Douglas was highly regarded by the Packers organization. But, in the end, the NFL is a business.

Beane was looking .......... I read the same thing.

I just wish they could open the trade deadline for a few more weeks.

Maybe Elam in the case of the Bills could be moved and I'm sure there are other teams in the same situation ...... so that would be fair for everybody

So many teams teams with records that don't allow them to move right now.

Players can find a team they might be able to make a difference on.

I'll give just one example Devante Adams and I'm sure there's plenty more.

[Woodman]

Bottom line I think we did ourselves a bit a good.

[notacon]

Beane was looking .......... I read the same thing.

I just wish they could open the trade deadline for a few more weeks.

Maybe Elam in the case of the Bills could be moved and I'm sure there are other teams in the same situation ...... so that would be fair for everybody

So many teams teams with records that don't allow them to move right now.

Players can find a team they might be able to make a difference on.

I'll give just one example Devante Adams and I'm sure there's plenty more.

I do not agree with "moving Elam". It's, way, way too early to give up on him.

Apparently the Bills think exactly the same when Brandon Beane was asked (https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/brandon-beane-says-hes-not-giving-up-on-kaiir-elam-but-cb-could-land-on/article_ab19beae-78fb-11ee-aaae-5f2318c673d5.html) "if he ever considered trading the 2022 first-round draft pick in the weeks leading up to Tuesday's NFL trade deadline, Beane said:"

"No. No. No. Zero."

Once again the prevalent opinions from many living-room-couch GM's here is 100% opposite of reality.

[Chet]

Just like Edmunds right?

[Woodman]

I do not agree with "moving Elam". It's, way, way too early to give up on him.

Apparently the Bills think exactly the same when Brandon Beane was asked (https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/brandon-beane-says-hes-not-giving-up-on-kaiir-elam-but-cb-could-land-on/article_ab19beae-78fb-11ee-aaae-5f2318c673d5.html) "if he ever considered trading the 2022 first-round draft pick in the weeks leading up to Tuesday's NFL trade deadline, Beane said:"

"No. No. No. Zero."

Once again the prevalent opinions from many living-room-couch GM's here is 100% opposite of reality.

We can at least for now afford to be a little more patient ..... what could they do to get his confidence/swag back .... right now he's not that guy ..... at that position you gotta have that mentality almost before anything else. They drafted him so they must have seen that. CB the position requires a forget the play if you made a mistake and move on. Very hard to do as a rule but you gotta have it more determined to get the next rep right.

[Mr. Pink]

Shoulda traded Elam when he had a little bit of value.

He's going to have none and will end up not getting his extension and just walking away for nothing.

He doesn't fit the defense. When he was asked to just be a man cover, what he was good at in college, and the rest of the defense did their thing around him...he still was terrible.

In fact, if Tre doesn't reach an injury settlement, I wouldn't be surprised if Elam doesn't make the roster next year.

We'd have White, Douglas, Benford, Johnson...that's if we make no moves in FA or draft at the position...we're gonna keep Elam around as the 5th corner?

[Woodman]

One final opportunity ..... apparently.

[notacon]

Just like Edmunds right?


What a lame troll post.


There was never, ever any speculation that the Bills ever considered trading Edmunds. Certainly not in his second year. He was an obvious spectacular LB in his second year, named to the Pro Bowl which increased his fifth year option money.

He was made the highest paid off-ball LB in the NFL as soon as he became a free agent (in fact, the announcement of the signing was done TWO DAYS (https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-signing-ex-bills-lb-tremaine-edmunds-to-four-year-72-million-deal) before FA officially started), and the Bills just could not justify having two LB's on the roster within the top 10 AVG/Y position. I posted extensive research and laid out the facts (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/263081-Name-one-starter-on-our-team-that-if-we-lost?p=5020920&viewfull=1#post5020920). The upshot is this realty....

"That is why the 14 positions that have multiple players on each team (excluding single player positions....LS, FB, K & P) for 32 teams (448 instances) only FOUR teams have two players within the top 10 AVG/Y salary for the same position...

Miami - CB - #3 & #6
Baltimore - CB - #4 & #10
LAC - EDGE - #2 & #5
Wash - DL - #3 & #8."

The FACT (https://overthecap.com/position/linebacker) is that both Edmunds and Milano are within the top 10 AVG/Y paid LB's.

Besides the FACT that Beane never EVER said that there was no chance that Edmunds would get a offer too good for the Bills to match considering their cap situation. Instead, he said that all the time that it would be difficult to retain such a star LB.


There is literally zero comparison. What fantasy world are you living in???? You obviously are either oblivious to the plain facts or just refuse to comprehend them. Either way, your post is pretty dumb.

[Woodman]

Instead, he said that all the time that it would be difficult to retain such a star LB.

He did.

[notacon]

Shoulda traded Elam when he had a little bit of value.

He's going to have none and will end up not getting his extension and just walking away for nothing.

He doesn't fit the defense. When he was asked to just be a man cover, what he was good at in college, and the rest of the defense did their thing around him...he still was terrible.

In fact, if Tre doesn't reach an injury settlement, I wouldn't be surprised if Elam doesn't make the roster next year.

We'd have White, Douglas, Benford, Johnson...that's if we make no moves in FA or draft at the position...we're gonna keep Elam around as the 5th corner?


Really?!?!?

What a lame idea from another living-room-couch GM.

Just like your other very lame WAY-too-soon-to-pull-the-trigger proclamation that Dalton Kincaid is a "wasted pick" (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/264042-Is-Buffalo-properly-utilizing-TE-Dalton-Kincaid?p=5050590&viewfull=1#post5050590)?!?!?!? :rolleyes:

[Woodman]

Really?!?!?
:rolleyes:

The salvageable part .... nice job young man.