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Woodman
11-30-2023, 08:13 PM
The alleged victim in the felony assault case against Bills linebacker Von Miller has apparently recanted her contentions.

Via WFAA, the alleged victim texted, "No one assaulted anyone. This insane. And sad (https://x.com/wfaa/status/1730378152717722048?s=20).”

Miller faces a felony charge of assaulting a pregnant person earlier this week in Dallas. Earlier in the day, details emerged regarding the alleged incident.

Via Alaina Getzenberg of ESPN.com, the affidavit supporting the arrest warrant (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39013616/warrant-issued-bills-von-miller-alleged-assault) shows that an argument began on Wednesday morning, at roughly 10:40 a.m. local time. It started, per the affidavit, over the travel plans of the alleged victim.

cas22
11-30-2023, 09:19 PM
dude he turned himself in, that means someone had charges on him..

BuffaloBlitz83
11-30-2023, 09:28 PM
She called the police, filed a report and was treated for her injuries but there was no assault?

Typ0
11-30-2023, 09:50 PM
She called the police, filed a report and was treated for her injuries but there was no assault?

Von isn't stupid enough to beat up a pregnant woman. He probably bumped into her got served with some papers.

jamze132
11-30-2023, 10:34 PM
ESPN article goes into great detail about the incident. If she’s recanting now, after he turned himself in and was released, she has his career and his money in mind. If it sticks, they’ll leave a lot of money on the table I would suspect. Not to mention his HoF legacy.

cas22
11-30-2023, 11:00 PM
What started the reported altercation? She refused to "travel back on her birthday," according to an arrest affidavit.
"Looking at this, this appears to be a minor incident that they had," said criminal defense attorney Daryl Washington. "Obviously, you hate to ever minimize the complaint that's made by a victim... "
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It happened, according to the affidavit at a Dallas high rise on Nov. 29.
Strong words reportedly led to physical "shoving and pushing," between the couple. It culminated in victim yelling, "Stop I'm pregnant!"
But Miller kept pushing, according to the affidavit. Even "stepping on her feet, causing her to fall back into a chair." He then "began applying pressure around" the victim's neck for three to five seconds before letting go," the affidavit read. <slot name="cont-read-break"></slot>
The 34-year-old NFL star then reportedly "...grabbed her phone and threw her laptop on the floor and stomped on it."
Washington isn't connected to the case but said even though the accuser wasn't hospitalized, authorities will likely try to move forward with prosecution whether she cooperates or not.
"In cases is like this, we see it all the time. There are complaints that are made by victims and two or three days later, when things clam down and cool off people tend to want to drop these charges, but what we've been seeing lately is that prosecutors are still pursuing these charges, if the evidence, if the photographs, if the recordings if they feel like they have enough evidence, they will still go forward," shared Washington.
Miller's playing status for this weekend remains up in the air.
But he is free on a $5000 bond and out of jail.

Ingtar33
12-01-2023, 01:20 AM
But he is free on a $5000 bond and out of jail.

$5000 bail for a multi millionaire on a DV call? that must be some sort of a weak case. I wonder how minor those injuries are that the prosecutor felt so unconfident to only aim for 5k bail

cas22
12-01-2023, 09:56 AM
$5000 bail for a multi millionaire on a DV call? that must be some sort of a weak case. I wonder how minor those injuries are that the prosecutor felt so unconfident to only aim for 5k bail

nfl doesn't care how weak it is, if he choked her and according to other reports had marks he is done in the nfl... which would be a huge weight off the bills.

Typ0
12-01-2023, 10:15 AM
$5000 bail for a multi millionaire on a DV call? that must be some sort of a weak case. I wonder how minor those injuries are that the prosecutor felt so unconfident to only aim for 5k bail

Bail is based on flight risk. He turned himself in and needs to stay in the public eye to collect his fat pay checks. Not going anywhere doesn't really need bail.

Typ0
12-01-2023, 10:17 AM
Hell in New York State they just let murderers and child rapists free on their honor to return. It's called bail reform.

cas22
12-01-2023, 10:41 AM
Miller continued to push the woman as he stepped on her feet, which caused her to fall back into a chair. … He then put a hand on her neck and applied pressure for 3 to 5 seconds, according to the affidavit, which police say caused pain but not difficulty breathing. As she continued to try to gather her belongings, Miller grabbed her phone, threw her laptop on the floor and stomped on it.
As she tried to pick up her laptop, Miller yanked her hair, pulling a chunk of it out and causing her to collapse, the affidavit says. She got up and began to record Miller on her phone, which she put in her pocket, police wrote in the affidavit.
Police responded to the apartment condominium and saw the woman had ‘minor abrasions’ on her left hand, as well as bruising on her abdomen, left bicep and neck that was ‘consistent with applied pressure,’ the affidavit read.
UPDATE: While WFAA obtained (https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0) the 911 call in which the woman can be heard saying, “My boyfriend is choking and hitting me,” the news outlet reported that when reached by text message, the woman called the incident “a huge misunderstanding.”
“We’re fine,” she wrote. “Things were blown way out of context. This is actually outrageous!” The woman texted, “No one assaulted anyone. This is insane. And sad.”

in red.. if true its over for Von ....

Saratoga Slim
12-01-2023, 11:28 AM
Absent some explanation that hasn't materialized yet, it's kind of hard to believe what was described in the report didn't happen. Perhaps she was scared or angry in the moment and made the call. Then when the situation abated realized the financial and reputational consequences. It should be up to her how she wants to handle. Not what I'd advise my daughter, but people should be allowed to make their own choices.

That said, my kid went to school yesterday in a #40 Miller jersey and when he came home it was rolled up in his backpack. Really sad all around.

kscdogbillsfan1221
12-01-2023, 04:40 PM
Jesus Christ

my wife is pregnant with our third child (first accident) and I cannot imagine ever putting my hands on her ever! Especially pregnant. If this is true…… **** this guy!

ParanoidAndroid
12-01-2023, 04:50 PM
Hell in New York State they just let murderers and child rapists free on their honor to return. It's called bail reform.
This post is right wing trash. Keep it in the dead-spin zone.

ParanoidAndroid
12-01-2023, 04:53 PM
$5000 bail for a multi millionaire on a DV call? that must be some sort of a weak case. I wonder how minor those injuries are that the prosecutor felt so unconfident to only aim for 5k bail
Texas. Same state where a Jan 6 defendant shot at the cops who went to serve a warrant so they just left and came back later so he could "sober up."
Judge gave him 2 years. That's it.

Novacane
12-01-2023, 05:47 PM
Von isn't stupid enough to beat up a pregnant woman. He probably bumped into her got served with some papers.

How do you know? You guys buddies?

Novacane
12-01-2023, 06:22 PM
Miller continued to push the woman as he stepped on her feet, which caused her to fall back into a chair. … He then put a hand on her neck and applied pressure for 3 to 5 seconds, according to the affidavit, which police say caused pain but not difficulty breathing. As she continued to try to gather her belongings, Miller grabbed her phone, threw her laptop on the floor and stomped on it.
As she tried to pick up her laptop, Miller yanked her hair, pulling a chunk of it out and causing her to collapse, the affidavit says. She got up and began to record Miller on her phone, which she put in her pocket, police wrote in the affidavit.
Police responded to the apartment condominium and saw the woman had ‘minor abrasions’ on her left hand, as well as bruising on her abdomen, left bicep and neck that was ‘consistent with applied pressure,’ the affidavit read.
UPDATE: While WFAA obtained (https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0) the 911 call in which the woman can be heard saying, “My boyfriend is choking and hitting me,” the news outlet reported that when reached by text message, the woman called the incident “a huge misunderstanding.”
“We’re fine,” she wrote. “Things were blown way out of context. This is actually outrageous!” The woman texted, “No one assaulted anyone. This is insane. And sad.”

in red.. if true its over for Von ....



It escalated to a 911 call where he was "choking and hitting me" but now it was a big misunderstanding? She's obviously thinking only about the money now that things have calmed down. Get this scumbag off the team!

Mace
12-01-2023, 06:38 PM
Was reported he pulled out a chunk of her hair, even if it was weave it's pretty obvious and the police saw it.

I can't see any justification.

TigerJ
12-01-2023, 10:17 PM
This situation is ample evidence for why it's always foolish to jump to conclusions rather than wait for the whole thing to play out. Miller might or might not have committed assault. All kinds of things can be reported in the news when something like this happens. You can't really trust any of it to be true. Assuming Miller is free in the short term I don't really think the Bills should play him. His contribution has been minimal anyways. On the other hand, they shouldn't and won't cut him either. They should wait for the league to investigate and respond with its own action. If Miller is suspended, the Bills will receive some relief on the money owed to Miller under the contract. That will result in significant salary cap relief. If they cut him now, they forfeit that salary cap relief.

ticatfan
12-02-2023, 08:22 AM
Paid her off.

acehole
12-02-2023, 07:35 PM
In Texas it does not mater if the victim recants. If the league steps in we have some outs..but it will still hurt the cap.

acehole
12-02-2023, 07:37 PM
We don't know what she is thinking...only what she is saying..

Woodman
12-06-2023, 09:03 AM
What will the Buffalo Bills do with Von Miller?


It’s entirely possible that they won’t have to do anything because the NFL could take matters into its own hands and announce this week that it is placing Miller on the commissioner-exempt list while it continues its investigation into the felony charge levied against the edge rusher last week for allegedly assaulting his pregnant girlfriend (https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2023/11/30/von-miller-facing-arrest-dallas-assaulting-pregnant-woman/71755231007/).

If Roger Goodell does so, Miller will go on paid leave and be ineligible to play until the league says he can return. Goodell didn’t need to act last week because the Bills were on their bye week, but now that they are back to work a decision should be imminent.

Woodman
12-06-2023, 01:15 PM
Von Miller at Bills facility, on track to play this week

On Wednesday, Bills General Manager Brandon Beane confirmed that Miller is at the team’s facility and is currently on track to practice and play with the Bills. He said that he does not anticipate any change to that status based on his conversations with the league.

“We’re not investigators, we weren’t present (https://twitter.com/haprusak/status/1732429420667830326) so you have to let all that stuff play out and follow the lead of the NFL,” Beane said, via Heather Prusak of WIVB.

Given the alleged victim’s denial that any assault took place, formal charges may not be coming in the matter and that would likely leave Miller clear to continue playing for the rest of the season.

acehole
12-06-2023, 05:38 PM
In Texas they can still bring charges.

Woodman
12-07-2023, 11:08 PM
Von Miller has no comment on felony assault charge (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/von-miller-has-no-comment-on-felony-assault-charge)

Bills edge rusher Von Miller, who is facing a third-degree felony assault of a pregnant woman charge, had no comment (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39065699/bills-von-miller-declines-comment-felony-assault-charge) when reporters approached him at his locker after Thursday’s practice, Alaina Getzenberg of ESPN reports.

Miller was a full participant in Thursday’s practice after taking a veteran rest day Wednesday, and he is expected to play Sunday.

Jimkelly12203
12-08-2023, 01:27 AM
So, in the heat of the moment, they got in a fight and he went full on roid rage.

Then she went full on pregnant woman rage and called the cops (probably for very good reason).

Then the dust settled, his agents did what agents are supposed to do and convinced her that life is better with Von money than it is with a child support payment. She likely already understood this once raging tempers and fears subsided. But the agents sent the guys to convince her anyway.

What a terrible contract this has been.

imbondz
12-08-2023, 04:20 AM
It’s all part of our curse. We can’t have nice things.

Woodman
12-08-2023, 08:41 AM
It’s all part of our curse. We can’t have nice things.

We don't know what nice things are. :idunno:

sahlensguy
12-08-2023, 10:18 AM
We don't know what nice things are. :idunno:

You sure got that right.

20015

OpIv37
12-08-2023, 10:21 AM
In Texas they can still bring charges.

But they won't because if she doesn't testify, or testifies only to recant the affidavit, they'll never get a conviction.

They have physical evidence of the bruises and other injuries she suffered, but they only evidence regarding who did it came from the victim's mouth. If she stops saying that Von did it, there's no other evidence that he did. Of course, we all know that he did it, but that doesn't come close to the "beyond a reasonable doubt"

It puts the team and the league in a tough spot. It looks like he is going to skate on actual legal trouble. The team and the league aren't bound by the same evidentiary standards as prosecutors are, but where do they draw the line? They have to find a balance between punishing players who commit domestic violence vs creating a situation where any accusation can get a player in trouble, regardless of truth.

Of course, this is just another way in which our legal system is unjust. If you or I did this, we would be in jail (and rightfully so). But people with enough money and enough celebrity status can buy their way out of legal trouble, even when they deserve to be locked up.

sahlensguy
12-08-2023, 10:22 AM
We don't know what nice things are. :idunno:

You sure got that right.

20016