PDA

View Full Version : If Bills beat KC ... Buffalo



BuffaloBlitz83
12-04-2023, 12:59 PM
Literally could move in to a WC.

Steelers with no Pickett vs Pats
Browns vs Bengals
Denver vs Chargers

We control our destiny buy can we do it? KC offense has looked average most of year.

kscdogbillsfan1221
12-04-2023, 01:02 PM
Agreed
The queefs are only 2.5 point favorites, which I find interesting

OpIv37
12-04-2023, 01:03 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

Saratoga Slim
12-04-2023, 01:27 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

That's the spirit.

YardRat
12-04-2023, 02:01 PM
I think most of us are certainly hoping so. Depends on if they have gotten hungry again, or not.

notacon
12-04-2023, 02:03 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.


https://media.tenor.com/Em3VrUNPkkYAAAAd/caught-trolling.gif

OpIv37
12-04-2023, 02:15 PM
https://media.tenor.com/Em3VrUNPkkYAAAAd/caught-trolling.gif

Stating reality is not trolling. They’re a better team than us. They’re at home. And now they are both pissed and in need of a win if they want a shot at that bye.

imbondz
12-04-2023, 02:15 PM
Agreed
The queefs are only 2.5 point favorites, which I find interesting

lol

BuffaloBlitz83
12-04-2023, 02:32 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

Shouldn’t we be pissed on dominating the eagles and losing by being screwed by refs and missing a fg. Josh played like a demon.

Novacane
12-04-2023, 02:50 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.



Does being pissed make their offense not suck? Something is wrong with thier offense just like something was wrong with our. I wonder if they miss Bienemy? Not saying we'll win. I have not faith in McDermott in big games. I just don't think coming off a loss is going to affect anything.

Forward_Lateral
12-04-2023, 03:02 PM
I was playing with the playoff generator on espn and the Bills basically have to win out to guarantee a WC spot. Now, I did not choose any major upsets like the Steelers losing to the Patriots or the Browns losing to the Bengals.

If they win out, they need the Fins to lose 2 games other than the Bills. The best shot at this happening is Dallas (after the Bills trounce them in 2 weeks) and the Ravens

I can't see the Bills losing to KC, IF they play like they've played the past 2 weeks on offense. I just hope it's not another game they have to beat the refs too.

Oaf
12-04-2023, 03:07 PM
Shouldn’t we be pissed on dominating the eagles and losing by being screwed by refs and missing a fg. Josh played like a demon.
Two pissed teams needing a win, one bone btw them. Who's gonna get it? Probably them but you never know.

OpIv37
12-04-2023, 03:28 PM
Shouldn’t we be pissed on dominating the eagles and losing by being screwed by refs and missing a fg. Josh played like a demon.

Maybe. The difference is that they are good enough to do something about it and we aren’t.

sukie
12-04-2023, 03:31 PM
Lots of KC players got hurt last night. Did they hire our old trainer?

Forward_Lateral
12-04-2023, 03:35 PM
Maybe. The difference is that they are good enough to do something about it and we aren’t.
Chiefs this year are not that great.

Bill Cody
12-04-2023, 04:03 PM
Bills win

ghz in pittsburgh
12-04-2023, 04:23 PM
Lots of KC players got hurt last night. Did they hire our old trainer?
They lost both safeties Cook and Reid, LB Tranquill, and LT Donavan Smith at Green Bay. Green Bay's big backs, Dillion and Taylor, really did a job on those smallish (205lb) safeties.

The Bills D is built like the Chiefs focusing on stopping the pass. Hyde and Poyer are sub 200 lbs.

ParanoidAndroid
12-04-2023, 04:31 PM
Chiefs this year are not that great.
But they haven't lost 2 games in a row...

Yet.

POTLAND PSILBYLO
12-04-2023, 05:18 PM
IT’S HIGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO SUCK.

Woodman
12-04-2023, 06:25 PM
IT’S HIGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO SUCK.
yeah suck!

acehole
12-04-2023, 08:23 PM
Agreed
The queefs are only 2.5 point favorites, which I find interesting

Lt hope the queefs blow it...

jamze132
12-04-2023, 09:50 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

You think we’re not pissed? We lose, we’re pretty much out. Too many conference losses.

Historian
12-05-2023, 08:24 AM
....and we STILL have no idea how to cover a tight end.

Chiefs 28
Bills 19

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 08:59 AM
You think we’re not pissed? We lose, we’re pretty much out. Too many conference losses.

Like I said, they're good enough to do something about being pissed. We aren't.

But.... I'm starting to think the Bills win this game. Why? Because this has been a disappointing season. Basically being eliminated on the road against a good team isn't all that surprising given how disappointing the season's been so far. That's bush-league disappointment. The Bills specialize in soul-sucking epic failure. The most Buffalo thing that could happen at this point would be a redux of what happened against the Steelers two decades ago. We win the next four. We go into Miami needing a win to get a WC. They rest their starters.... and beat us anyway. THAT's the Buffalo way!

kscdogbillsfan1221
12-05-2023, 09:01 AM
Mc stupid is 6-0 off the bye.
josh Allen is 2-0 in the regular season at arrowhead

just saying

sukie
12-05-2023, 09:43 AM
They lost both safeties Cook and Reid, LB Tranquill, and LT Donavan Smith at Green Bay. Green Bay's big backs, Dillion and Taylor, really did a job on those smallish (205lb) safeties.

The Bills D is built like the Chiefs focusing on stopping the pass. Hyde and Poyer are sub 200 lbs.

Reed came back in though, didn’t he?

kscdogbillsfan1221
12-05-2023, 11:07 AM
Like I said, they're good enough to do something about being pissed. We aren't.

But.... I'm starting to think the Bills win this game. Why? Because this has been a disappointing season. Basically being eliminated on the road against a good team isn't all that surprising given how disappointing the season's been so far. That's bush-league disappointment. The Bills specialize in soul-sucking epic failure. The most Buffalo thing that could happen at this point would be a redux of what happened against the Steelers two decades ago. We win the next four. We go into Miami needing a win to get a WC. They rest their starters.... and beat us anyway. THAT's the Buffalo way!
I actually completely agree with your second paragraph

it was pretty bills poetic

I was more thinking we rip off three in a row. Lose in OT to the patriots and then need 8 scenarios to make the playoffs in week 18. All come true except one where we lose the tiebreaker for losing to the patriots twice.

but yea, yours is extremely plausible too!

notacon
12-05-2023, 12:17 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.


Stating reality is not trolling. They’re a better team than us. They’re at home. And now they are both pissed and in need of a win if they want a shot at that bye.

It’s not technically true. But given how this team has played and the games left on our schedule, it’s completely unrealistic.


Maybe. The difference is that they are good enough to do something about it and we aren’t.

For efficiency it’s best to consolidate your recent sour puss posts compared to the facts which turn your insipid “reality” claim on it’s head.

Unfortunately (and repeated year after year after year) your myopic ANTI-BILLS mindset renders your claims to “reality” as woefully absurd.

In particular your claim that the Bills will NOT beat KC, based almost entirely on “…given how this team has played…” ignores REALITY.

For the past five weeks, it is MORE accurate to observe that KANSAS CITY is the team that has played worse than the Bills.

Here is every fact and pertinent measurable stat for each team for the past five games. The difference is calculated in the right column.

The data points where the Chiefs best the Bills is highlighted in red.


<tbody>
Last Five Games












Buffalo
Kansas City
Difference


Wins
2
2
0


Loses
3
3
0


Points For
130
97
33


Points Against
109
103
6


Point Differential
21
-6
27


Pass Yards Gained
1333
1034
299


Rush Attempts
146
118
28


Rush Yards Gained
678
540
138


Rush Yards/Attempt
4.64
4.58
0.07


Total Yards Gained
2011
1574
437


First Downs Gained
115
105
10


Pass Yards Allowed
1030
874
156


Rush Yards Allowed
502
636
-134


Total Yards Allowed
1532
1510
22


1st Downs Allowed
97
95
2


Turnover Lost
9
9
0


Turnover Gained
7
3
4

</tbody>
<style>table {mso-displayed-decimal-separator:"\."; mso-displayed-thousand-separator:"\,";}tr {mso-height-source:auto;}col {mso-width-source:auto;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}td {padding-top:1px; padding-right:1px; padding-left:1px; mso-ignore:padding; color:black; font-size:11.0pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Verdana, sans-serif; mso-font-charset:0; mso-number-format:General; text-align:general; vertical-align:bottom; border:none; mso-background-source:auto; mso-pattern:auto; mso-protection:locked visible; white-space:nowrap; mso-rotate:0;}.xl65 {text-align:left;}.xl66 {border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl67 {text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl68 {color:red; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl69 {color:windowtext; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl70 {mso-number-format:0; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl71 {mso-number-format:Fixed; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}</style>

As is plainly obvious, KC has been playing wore than the Bills. THAT is “reality”

How about looking at the two QB’s???


<tbody>

Allen
Mahomes



Pass Attempts
187
178
9


Pass Completed
121
116
5


Completion %
64.71%
65.17%
-0.46%


Pass Yards
1373
1110
263


Pass Yards/Completion
11.35
9.57
1.78


Pass TD
9
7
2


INT
6
4
2


Passer Rating
89.27
86.11
3.16


Rush Attempts
33
24
9


Rush Yards
194
117
77


YRD/A
5.88
4.9
0.98


Rush TD
5
0
5


Total TD's
11
7
4

</tbody>
<style>table {mso-displayed-decimal-separator:"\."; mso-displayed-thousand-separator:"\,";}tr {mso-height-source:auto;}col {mso-width-source:auto;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}td {padding-top:1px; padding-right:1px; padding-left:1px; mso-ignore:padding; color:black; font-size:11.0pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Verdana, sans-serif; mso-font-charset:0; mso-number-format:General; text-align:general; vertical-align:bottom; border:none; mso-background-source:auto; mso-pattern:auto; mso-protection:locked visible; white-space:nowrap; mso-rotate:0;}.xl65 {text-align:left;}.xl66 {border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl67 {text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl68 {color:red; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl69 {mso-number-format:0; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl70 {mso-number-format:Fixed; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl71 {mso-number-format:Percent; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl72 {color:red; mso-number-format:Percent; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}</style>
That is the same, Mahomes has been playing worse than Josh. THAT is “reality”

As for your absurd idea that the Chiefs will be pissed and that gives them an edge….what baloney.

The BILLS are the team that should be pissed as they mostly outplayed Philly and lost because of bad refs (what else is new), and absurd 59 yard FG and a slight miscommunication on a probable winning TD pass in OT.

Your last minute mea culpa is saying that “I’m starting to think the Bills win this game” is too little, too late and smacks of bad faith.
<style>@font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:roman; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536870145 1107305727 0 0 415 0;}@font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536859905 -1073732485 9 0 511 0;}@font-face {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-1593833729 1073750107 16 0 415 0;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:#222222;}.MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; mso-default-props:yes; font-size:10.5pt; mso-ansi-font-size:10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-ascii-font-family:Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Verdana; color:#222222; mso-font-kerning:0pt; mso-ligatures:none;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}</style>

notacon
12-05-2023, 12:24 PM
BTW...I have no idea who is going to win this game vs KC. I have no idea if the Bills will make the playoffs. NO ONE DOES!!!!

But, I certainly am not burying them before they are dead (which you do all the time for as long as I remember any of your sour puss quitter posts over the years) .

There is no reason to believe that the Bills are 100% capable of doing both.

What I DO know is that I look forward to every Bills game with positive anticipation with the knowledge that this team can compete with ANY team, and I relish in that optimism instead of drowning in the gutter of negativity, despair and doubt.

sukie
12-05-2023, 12:26 PM
Invalid unless against exact same teams if you are making comparisons like that.

more telling would be to see how many 2+ touchdown games all season both have

how about 300 yd games?

I think Allen wins both of those

how many rushing TDs does Mahomes have this year? Is it close to zip ?

notacon
12-05-2023, 12:32 PM
Invalid unless against exact same teams if you are making comparisons like that.

more telling would be to see how many 2+ touchdown games all season both have

how about 300 yd games?

I think Allen wins both of those

how many rushing TDs does Mahomes have this year? Is it close to zip ?

Bullcrap! Total bullcrap.


It is plain as day that the Bills have performed better than the Chief in the past 5 games, despite the crap that Opi wants to shovel. Same with Allen outplaying Mahomes.

Besides the fact that both KC and Buffalo played againt the "exact same teams". Denver & Philly....both losses for both teams.

But, if one looks at both of the games, the Bills clearly performed better than the Chiefs.

Facts are facts.

notacon
12-05-2023, 12:37 PM
BTW sukie....if you want to refute what I wrote, instead of asking questions....do the work and present the facts. What matters is how the two teams have been performing lately (in direct response to Opi's statement about "given how this team has played")....the last 5 games is an excellent barometer.

Or are you just being argumentative to be argumentative???

sukie
12-05-2023, 12:42 PM
Nope pretty sure the answer is 2 for the passing questions and zero for the rushing TDs.

I wasn’t refuting what you wrote just pointing out that a small sample size is riddled with variables and wide uncertainties that could only be minimized by limiting them with same opponent datum.

basic statistics.

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 12:44 PM
For efficiency it’s best to consolidate your recent sour puss posts compared to the facts which turn your insipid “reality” claim on it’s head.

Unfortunately (and repeated year after year after year) your myopic ANTI-BILLS mindset renders your claims to “reality” as woefully absurd.

In particular your claim that the Bills will NOT beat KC, based almost entirely on “…given how this team has played…” ignores REALITY.

For the past five weeks, it is MORE accurate to observe that KANSAS CITY is the team that has played worse than the Bills.

Here is every fact and pertinent measurable stat for each team for the past five games. The difference is calculated in the right column.

The data points where the Chiefs best the Bills is highlighted in red.


<tbody>
Last Five Games












Buffalo
Kansas City
Difference


Wins
2
2
0


Loses
3
3
0


Points For
130
97
33


Points Against
109
103
6


Point Differential
21
-6
27


Pass Yards Gained
1333
1034
299


Rush Attempts
146
118
28


Rush Yards Gained
678
540
138


Rush Yards/Attempt
4.64
4.58
0.07


Total Yards Gained
2011
1574
437


First Downs Gained
115
105
10


Pass Yards Allowed
1030
874
156


Rush Yards Allowed
502
636
-134


Total Yards Allowed
1532
1510
22


1st Downs Allowed
97
95
2


Turnover Lost
9
9
0


Turnover Gained
7
3
4

</tbody>
<style>table {mso-displayed-decimal-separator:"\."; mso-displayed-thousand-separator:"\,";}tr {mso-height-source:auto;}col {mso-width-source:auto;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}td {padding-top:1px; padding-right:1px; padding-left:1px; mso-ignore:padding; color:black; font-size:11.0pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Verdana, sans-serif; mso-font-charset:0; mso-number-format:General; text-align:general; vertical-align:bottom; border:none; mso-background-source:auto; mso-pattern:auto; mso-protection:locked visible; white-space:nowrap; mso-rotate:0;}.xl65 {text-align:left;}.xl66 {border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl67 {text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl68 {color:red; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl69 {color:windowtext; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl70 {mso-number-format:0; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl71 {mso-number-format:Fixed; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}</style>

As is plainly obvious, KC has been playing wore than the Bills. THAT is “reality”

How about looking at the two QB’s???


<tbody>

Allen
Mahomes



Pass Attempts
187
178
9


Pass Completed
121
116
5


Completion %
64.71%
65.17%
-0.46%


Pass Yards
1373
1110
263


Pass Yards/Completion
11.35
9.57
1.78


Pass TD
9
7
2


INT
6
4
2


Passer Rating
89.27
86.11
3.16


Rush Attempts
33
24
9


Rush Yards
194
117
77


YRD/A
5.88
4.9
0.98


Rush TD
5
0
5


Total TD's
11
7
4

</tbody>
<style>table {mso-displayed-decimal-separator:"\."; mso-displayed-thousand-separator:"\,";}tr {mso-height-source:auto;}col {mso-width-source:auto;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}td {padding-top:1px; padding-right:1px; padding-left:1px; mso-ignore:padding; color:black; font-size:11.0pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none; font-family:Verdana, sans-serif; mso-font-charset:0; mso-number-format:General; text-align:general; vertical-align:bottom; border:none; mso-background-source:auto; mso-pattern:auto; mso-protection:locked visible; white-space:nowrap; mso-rotate:0;}.xl65 {text-align:left;}.xl66 {border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl67 {text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl68 {color:red; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl69 {mso-number-format:0; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl70 {mso-number-format:Fixed; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl71 {mso-number-format:Percent; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}.xl72 {color:red; mso-number-format:Percent; text-align:left; border:.5pt solid windowtext;}</style>
That is the same, Mahomes has been playing worse than Josh. THAT is “reality”

As for your absurd idea that the Chiefs will be pissed and that gives them an edge….what baloney.

The BILLS are the team that should be pissed as they mostly outplayed Philly and lost because of bad refs (what else is new), and absurd 59 yard FG and a slight miscommunication on a probable winning TD pass in OT.

Your last minute mea culpa is saying that “I’m starting to think the Bills win this game” is too little, too late and smacks of bad faith.
<style>@font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:roman; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536870145 1107305727 0 0 415 0;}@font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-536859905 -1073732485 9 0 511 0;}@font-face {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:-1593833729 1073750107 16 0 415 0;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-unhide:no; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; color:#222222;}.MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; mso-default-props:yes; font-size:10.5pt; mso-ansi-font-size:10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif; mso-ascii-font-family:Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Verdana; color:#222222; mso-font-kerning:0pt; mso-ligatures:none;}div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;}</style>

They have more wins than us. They are currently in the playoffs. We are not. They are better.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-05-2023, 01:00 PM
They have more wins than us. They are currently in the playoffs. We are not. They are better.

They have superior coaches.

Joe Fo Sho
12-05-2023, 01:01 PM
Mc stupid is 6-0 off the bye.
josh Allen is 2-0 in the regular season at arrowhead

just saying

But we aren't good enough when we're mad, obviously...and that's all that matters.

notacon
12-05-2023, 01:11 PM
They have more wins than us. They are currently in the playoffs. We are not. They are better.


:rofl: :rofl: Non-denial denial.


It's plain as day that I am directly and accurately refuting your lame ignoring of REALITY that the Bills are playing better than the Chiefs in the past five games.


Mr "Reality" looks foolish one again.


BTW...NO TEAM is "in the playoffs" just yet. When any team officially clinches a spot it will be well known.


Mark my words (and I will bookmark this post)....the teams that qualify for the playoffs (and the seeding) IF THE SEASON ENDED TODAY (which, of course there are FIVE ****ING GAMES LEFT) will be different than the 14 teams that REALLY make the playoffs (and seeding) when the season ends.

AFC:

1. Miami
2. Baltimore
3. Kansas City
4. Jax
5. Pittsburgh
6. Clevelenad
7. Indy

NFC:

1. Philly
2. San Fran
3. Detroit
4. Atlanta
5. Dallas
6. Minny
7. Green Bay

I suspect that 50% of the playoff spots/seeding will be different when all is said and done.


THAT is "reality".

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 01:13 PM
:rofl: :rofl: Non-denial denial.


It's plain as day that I am directly and accurately refuting your lame ignoring of REALITY that the Bills are playing better than the Chiefs in the past five games.


Mr "Reality" looks foolish one again.


BTW...NO TEAM is "in the playoffs" just yet. When any team officially clinches a spot it will be well known.


Mark my words (and I will bookmark this post)....the teams that qualify for the playoffs (and the seeding) IF THE SEASON ENDED TODAY (which, of course there are FIVE ****ING GAMES LEFT) will be different than the 14 teams that REALLY make the playoffs (and seeding) when the season ends.

AFC:

1. Miami
2. Baltimore
3. Kansas City
4. Jax
5. Pittsburgh
6. Clevelenad
7. Indy

NFC:

1. Philly
2. San Fran
3. Detroit
4. Atlanta
5. Dallas
6. Minny
7. Green Bay

I suspect that 50% of the playoff spots/seeding will be different when all is said and done.


THAT is "reality".

They still have more wins than us. They still have a far easier path to the playoffs than we do.

ghz in pittsburgh
12-05-2023, 01:32 PM
Reed came back in though, didn’t he?
The injury report this week will be interesting. Regardless Reid was back or not, it is an interesting development.

KC this year overall, defense has been quite good while offense is fairly average - by their standard, under-performed. That could be the Bills team except the Bills defense derailed by injuries, key injuries in the scope of best players in D Line (Jones), LB Corp, and Secondary. They rebounded some with the infusion of Douglas, still I rank the bills D worse than the Chiefs, while I consider the re-bounding offense, at the moment, better than the Chiefs.

My guess is that the game starts with both offenses adjusting to the defenses throwing some new wrinkles, so relatively low scoring. But 2nd half, you may see horse race of scoring, especially if the Chiefs D misses some of the injured players. As usual, the Bills/Chiefs game will probably come down to the last possession if both Allen/Mahomes do not have big differential in turnovers.

ParanoidAndroid
12-05-2023, 01:54 PM
Our remaining schedule is daunting. Not so much for a few of the other WC chasers.

I do think the Bills are the most capable team outside of Baltimore and KC right now, though.

Miami is a paper tiger.

We might be, too, though, if we don't bury the tendency toward self inflicted wounds.

justasportsfan
12-05-2023, 01:59 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

you like history from 20 years ago to predict the current season. We have beaten the chiefs in the last 2 regular season games so this doesnt apply now? If it was a playoff game, id agree with you.

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 02:18 PM
you like history from 20 years ago to predict the current season. We have beaten the chiefs in the last 2 regular season games so this doesnt apply now? If it was a playoff game, id agree with you.

Interesting. When I said Cincy was going to kill us because they killed us last year in the playoffs and were killing us in the reg season before the Hamlin incident, nota and others told me that last year doesn't matter. Wonder why he's not calling you out for using prior years as an example....

Honestly, I have said in the past that the Bills have proven they can beat KC in the reg season... but we've had so many bad games and have so many injuries on D. And now they're pissed and now they need a win to stay in the hunt for the bye. And they're at home. I can't see it happening this time.

ParanoidAndroid
12-05-2023, 02:31 PM
It's a really strange exercise trying to convince hopeful Bills fans on a Bills fanatic message board why they will lose their next game.

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 02:46 PM
It's a really strange exercise trying to convince hopeful Bills fans on a Bills fanatic message board why they will lose their next game.

It's a simple matter of being able to separate what one hopes will happen and what one realistically expects will happen. I don't know why people struggle with it so much.

It's like if the Mega Millions jackpot hits $500 mil and I buy a ticket. Sure, I'll fantasize about what I'd do if I won the one and I'll probably have conversations with friends about it, but I don't actually expect it to happen.

Yes, I know, the odds of the Bills winning are far greater than winning the lottery, but they are far from good. And even if we do win: the only way we get the div is if we win out and Miami loses to us and at least 2 of their other 4, which isn't happening. So, best case scenario is we squeak into a wild card. Maybe we win one, but we aren't winning 3 road games in the playoffs. We aren't going to to any better than what we did in 2020 and 2021 and we'll be EXTREMELY lucky just to do as well as we did last year. It's not what I want, but it is what it is. Oh well.

TigerJ
12-05-2023, 04:23 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.KC has been less than spectacular, losing three games over the last 5 they have played. Buffalo played Philadelphia every bit as tough as KC did. KC is not an elite team that just had an inexplicable stumble. They are a good team that is struggling a bit. Rather than being pissed, KC is a team trying to find their way back to what they were, not unlike Buffalo. I'm not predicting any cakewalk for Buffalo. I expect it's going to be a tough game and Buffalo could certainly lose, but I don't think KC is anywhere close to being able to walk all over the Bills.

Mace
12-05-2023, 04:38 PM
It's a really strange exercise trying to convince hopeful Bills fans on a Bills fanatic message board why they will lose their next game.

Not when you've been following them for 50 years and get used to the obvious no matter what you hope.

Novacane
12-05-2023, 04:46 PM
Losing Sunday would way to easy on Bills fans. We'd know it was over and could look forward to the offseason. Noooooo, that's not the way the Bills do things. They'll beat KC and Dallas. They'll be right there for a playoff spot and get a bunch of us believing again. Then they will go to LA and lay an egg. They can't just let us down. They have to rip our hearts out.

Novacane
12-05-2023, 04:49 PM
The Bills are Von Miller and the fans are his GF. We keep coming back for more.

Cntrygal
12-05-2023, 05:00 PM
You think we’re not pissed? We lose, we’re pretty much out. Too many conference losses.

"We" (the fans) are pissed/disgusted/resigned ... But are McDermott and the players?

Luisito23
12-05-2023, 06:39 PM
....and we STILL have no idea how to cover a tight end.

And we STILL have a coach who can't out-coach a better coach...:sigh:

acehole
12-05-2023, 06:59 PM
And we STILL have a coach who can't out-coach a better coach...:sigh:

KC won more games but I think we are not looking at a better team...right at this snap shot.

They have a better coach and we have beaten. them before.

off a bye week?

24 - 31 Bills.

Big game for Gab Davis

YardRat
12-05-2023, 08:04 PM
I don't know how anybody can be a Bills fan for any length of time and not be at least a little bit of a pessimist.

ParanoidAndroid
12-05-2023, 08:43 PM
Not when you've been following them for 50 years and get used to the obvious no matter what you hope.
Oh. I get it. I really do.

But it's still strange. It's bizarre human behavior to me.

OpIv37
12-05-2023, 09:52 PM
Not when you've been following them for 50 years and get used to the obvious no matter what you hope.

I’m not old enough to remember 50 but I’m well north of 30. The first 4 were the SB losses and roughly half of it was the Drought.

This year feels like a drought year. Too many losses to bad teams, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory against good teams, playoffs require either a miracle wining streak or a ton of hel from other teams.

justasportsfan
12-06-2023, 09:21 AM
Interesting. When I said Cincy was going to kill us because they killed us last year in the playoffs and were killing us in the reg season before the Hamlin incident, nota and others told me that last year doesn't matter. Wonder why he's not calling you out for using prior years as an example....

Honestly, I have said in the past that the Bills have proven they can beat KC in the reg season... but we've had so many bad games and have so many injuries on D. And now they're pissed and now they need a win to stay in the hunt for the bye. And they're at home. I can't see it happening this time.

We could lose. Your logic is just all over. "The bills have PROVEN we can beat KC in regular season games but we have ZERO chance this time " :hitself:

notacon
12-06-2023, 12:20 PM
I don't know how anybody can be a Bills fan for any length of time and not be at least a little bit of a pessimist.


Being a "little bit of pessimist" is reasonable, but is NOT (in ANY way, shape or form) what Opi is. In fact, it''s exactly the opposite. He is a 99.9% pessimist.

notacon
12-06-2023, 12:26 PM
It's a simple matter of being able to separate what one hopes will happen and what one realistically expects will happen. I don't know why people struggle with it so much.

It's like if the Mega Millions jackpot hits $500 mil and I buy a ticket. Sure, I'll fantasize about what I'd do if I won the one and I'll probably have conversations with friends about it, but I don't actually expect it to happen.

Yes, I know, the odds of the Bills winning are far greater than winning the lottery, but they are far from good. And even if we do win: the only way we get the div is if we win out and Miami loses to us and at least 2 of their other 4, which isn't happening. So, best case scenario is we squeak into a wild card. Maybe we win one, but we aren't winning 3 road games in the playoffs. We aren't going to to any better than what we did in 2020 and 2021 and we'll be EXTREMELY lucky just to do as well as we did last year. It's not what I want, but it is what it is. Oh well.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/8264b793e28b5fdf000d0eab4040b3c3/5984d412fd85278c-88/s2048x3072_c0,11927,100000,87615/2b29e1174bf427faefbc2da2c193580bea31eef0.gif



https://64.media.tumblr.com/cdf03881d3241c5682c3cff4cd6c2455/2aab68969db02b35-f7/s500x750/a0823c98b93f82fbc2f10ce90b1c126ef56ed74f.gifv

Chet
12-07-2023, 07:33 AM
This season is over unless they win out, which is a virtual impossibility with Marty leading the way.

I’m betting on the Bills to win this weekend but they have another 2 losses in them the rest of the way with the ginger eunuch leading us.

I’m rooting for progress from Allen and continued promise from Brady. The rest of these frauds don’t deserve another life raft. Sooner throw them an anvil

OpIv37
12-07-2023, 10:33 AM
https://64.media.tumblr.com/8264b793e28b5fdf000d0eab4040b3c3/5984d412fd85278c-88/s2048x3072_c0,11927,100000,87615/2b29e1174bf427faefbc2da2c193580bea31eef0.gif



https://64.media.tumblr.com/cdf03881d3241c5682c3cff4cd6c2455/2aab68969db02b35-f7/s500x750/a0823c98b93f82fbc2f10ce90b1c126ef56ed74f.gifv

It's reality. Whether it's gloomy or not is irrelevant.

acehole
12-07-2023, 05:07 PM
yes it would seem they have a "Patrick Mahomes" Problem. :penalty:

Mr. Pink
12-08-2023, 01:10 PM
There is a report that Pacheco, Bryan Cook, Donovan Smith and Drue Tranquill will all be out on Sunday.

Good news for the Bills as that's 4 Chief starters who won't play.

Edwards Hellaire is no slouch at RB though and then there's Jerrick McKinnon to still worry about. But there is a definite dropoff from Pacheco to Edward Hellaire.

Nick Bolton looks like he is on track to play Sunday and would replace Tranquill. Thing is Bolton hasn't played in like 2 months at this point.

Jimkelly12203
12-08-2023, 01:15 PM
I have no idea. This roster is capable of going on a rampage all the way to superbowl sunday.

But if i was a betting man, it ain't going to happen!

In a weird way, we've squandered all of our EZ win games and thrown a few tough wins into the trash by blowing them.

Yet, we are certainly good enough to win it all.

But the next loss to an AFC team should be Sean McDermott's last game coaching this team.

What a strange world we live in.

notacon
12-08-2023, 01:45 PM
It's reality. Whether it's gloomy or not is irrelevant.


It's NOT "reality" until it actually happens.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-08-2023, 05:13 PM
There is a report that Pacheco, Bryan Cook, Donovan Smith and Drue Tranquill will all be out on Sunday.

Good news for the Bills as that's 4 Chief starters who won't play.

Edwards Hellaire is no slouch at RB though and then there's Jerrick McKinnon to still worry about. But there is a definite dropoff from Pacheco to Edward Hellaire.

Nick Bolton looks like he is on track to play Sunday and would replace Tranquill. Thing is Bolton hasn't played in like 2 months at this point.

It's true.

The #Chiefs are ruling out RB Isiah Pacheco, LB Drue Tranquill, DB Bryan Cook, and OT Donovan Smith for their game against the #Bills.

Chet
12-09-2023, 07:14 AM
It's NOT "reality" until it actually happens.

Shill to the bitter end.

remember, shaft AND balls

Chet
12-09-2023, 07:24 AM
I have no idea. This roster is capable of going on a rampage all the way to superbowl sunday.

But if i was a betting man, it ain't going to happen!

In a weird way, we've squandered all of our EZ win games and thrown a few tough wins into the trash by blowing them.

Yet, we are certainly good enough to win it all.

But the next loss to an AFC team should be Sean McDermott's last game coaching this team.

What a strange world we live in.
Couldn’t have said it better myself which is why it’s imperative McLaden be let go.

The Bills are more than capable of beating any team in the league and even going on a SB run. The problem is that Buffalo is just as likely to lose to any team in the NFL, regardless of record. Would it surprise any of you if the Bills went 3-2 to finish the year with both losses against the Chargers and Pats? Look at the absolutely horse**** teams we lost (and nearly lost) to this season. It boggles the mind

notacon
12-09-2023, 02:45 PM
Shill to the bitter end.

remember, shaft AND balls

:rofl: Just the facts which you have a problem comprehending.

When Opi says that ""(Josh Allen will) never win a Super Bowl, at least not as a Bill" and "It’s over. The window isn’t just closed. It’s slammed shut and boarded up." and tries to pawn it off as "reality"....that is total bullcrap.

If you had a shred of integrity you would already know that fact.

acehole
12-10-2023, 03:14 PM
Couldn’t have said it better myself which is why it’s imperative McLaden be let go.

The Bills are more than capable of beating any team in the league and even going on a SB run. The problem is that Buffalo is just as likely to lose to any team in the NFL, regardless of record. Would it surprise any of you if the Bills went 3-2 to finish the year with both losses against the Chargers and Pats? Look at the absolutely horse**** teams we lost (and nearly lost) to this season. It boggles the mind
Mc Laden OMG :lmao:

Mad Max
12-10-2023, 03:29 PM
Ffff these late running games cutting into the Bills

justasportsfan
12-10-2023, 06:45 PM
ZERO chance !

Bill Cody
12-10-2023, 06:48 PM
I called it

BillsOwnAll
12-10-2023, 07:22 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

What? Oh I bet we didn’t win by enough now. What are we moving the goalpost too!

OpIv37
12-10-2023, 07:39 PM
What? Oh I bet we didn’t win by enough now. What are we moving the goalpost too!

Gee. What a surprise. The guy who never actually offers his own opinion can’t wait to pounce on someone else when an opinion he didn’t like turned out to be wrong.

Joe Fo Sho
12-10-2023, 07:50 PM
Are we good when we're mad now or were the chiefs not mad enough? Were there other feelings involved that helped out hurt either team?

How wrong can one person be and continue to have the confidence of a flat earther?

OpIv37
12-10-2023, 08:01 PM
Are we good when we're mad now or were the chiefs not mad enough? Were there other feelings involved that helped out hurt either team?

How wrong can one person be and continue to have the confidence of a flat earther?

Huh? I admitted I got this game wrong.

I said before the season that this team was a borderline playoff team whose ceiling was a WC with a first round loss. Being wrong about this game doesn’t change the fact that we’re still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-10-2023, 08:04 PM
Huh? I admitted I got this game wrong.

I said before the season that this team was a borderline playoff team whose ceiling was a WC with a first round loss. Being wrong about this game doesn’t change the fact that we’re still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.

As long as we get in hot and with win streak it could be good thing.

justasportsfan
12-10-2023, 08:06 PM
Huh? I admitted I got this game wrong.

I said before the season that this team was a borderline playoff team whose ceiling was a WC with a first round loss. Being wrong about this game doesn’t change the fact that we’re still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.

He is still patting himself on the back even after being completely WRONG!

:lolpoint: ZERO CHANCE!

OpIv37
12-10-2023, 08:12 PM
As long as we get in hot and with win streak it could be good thing.

Believe me, I’d love to be wrong.

But, the problem isn’t what happens from here on out. The problem is that we lost to the Jets, Pats, Broncos, Jags, Bengals and a close one to the Eagles. We should have won at least half of those games and then a late season loss or two wouldn’t be a death sentence. Yet, here we are.

There’s a potential that we could win out and still miss the playoffs on tiebreakers at 11-6. We never should have been in that situation.

- - - Updated - - -


He is still patting himself on the back even after being completely WRONG!

:lolpoint: ZERO CHANCE!

Lmao. Still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.

Forward_Lateral
12-10-2023, 08:21 PM
Looking at next weeks schedule, after they demolish Dallas next week, theres a good chance they’ll be in a playoff spot

justasportsfan
12-10-2023, 08:22 PM
Believe me, I’d love to be wrong.


Lmao. Still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.
ZERO CHANCE was a dumb prediction . Its wasn't even a realistic prediction. Stop calling yourself a realist. You're far.from it.

Ginger Vitis
12-10-2023, 08:39 PM
They’re going to be pissed after yesterday. We won’t best them.

Yes the bills will

Mad Max
12-10-2023, 08:41 PM
Believe me, I’d love to be wrong.

But, the problem isn’t what happens from here on out. The problem is that we lost to the Jets, Pats, Broncos, Jags, Bengals and a close one to the Eagles. We should have won at least half of those games and then a late season loss or two wouldn’t be a death sentence. Yet, here we are.

There’s a potential that we could win out and still miss the playoffs on tiebreakers at 11-6. We never should have been in that situation.

- - - Updated - - -



Lmao. Still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.

Bro. Just take the L on this one and move on (to predicting our inevitable blowout against the mighty cowdookies…which you’ll be gleefully prognosticating all week long)

OpIv37
12-10-2023, 10:39 PM
Bro. Just take the L on this one and move on (to predicting our inevitable blowout against the mighty cowdookies…which you’ll be gleefully prognosticating all week long)

I’ll get games wrong, sure. But the overall outcome is inevitable at this point. We will not even match the dog round losses of the last two years.

notacon
12-11-2023, 01:59 PM
Believe me, I’d love to be wrong.

But, the problem isn’t what happens from here on out. The problem is that we lost to the Jets, Pats, Broncos, Jags, Bengals and a close one to the Eagles. We should have won at least half of those games and then a late season loss or two wouldn’t be a death sentence. Yet, here we are.

There’s a potential that we could win out and still miss the playoffs on tiebreakers at 11-6. We never should have been in that situation.

- - - Updated - - -



Lmao. Still 10th in the conf and out of the playoffs.


https://threadheads.com/cdn/shop/files/Sour_Puss-02_5245183a-f096-4b6b-8a56-2ff6cdc863c3.jpg?v=1691757362&width=2048



https://ministry-to-youth.com/cdn/shop/products/How_to_Be_a_Quitter_-_Title_Slide.jpg?v=1511854969

kscdogbillsfan1221
12-11-2023, 02:32 PM
I’ll get games wrong, sure. But the overall outcome is inevitable at this point. We will not even match the dog round losses of the last two years.
'i may be wrong, but i'm always right'


translated it for you