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BuffaloBlitz83
12-25-2023, 03:37 PM
Mahomes 25 TDs, 14 Ints, 2 fumbles

Allen 40 TDs, 15 ints, 3 fumbles

And the records are identical. Media never says anything about his turnovers ever....

Novacane
12-25-2023, 03:39 PM
They'd say he's won two SB. He get's more slack then the "best QB not to win a SB".

BuffaloBlitz83
12-25-2023, 03:45 PM
They'd say he's won two SB. He get's more slack then the "best QB not to win a SB".

I'll say he has the best offense coach in the sport. Josh has a defensive coach. This year numbers don't lie. Josh has played better overall.

Novacane
12-25-2023, 03:52 PM
I'll say he has the best offense coach in the sport. Josh has a defensive coach. This year numbers don't lie. Josh has played better overall.

I'm with you. I'm just playing devils advocate. If not for all the negative media bashing Josh would be a legit MVP candidate imo. 11 game with a passing AND a rushing TD? That's unheard of!

Novacane
12-25-2023, 03:53 PM
Josh has 4 "hail mary" or "punt" interceptions that would make his #'s look a lot better if they plays hadn't even been called.

Woodman
12-25-2023, 03:54 PM
Patrick remember that time you got screwed .... pisses you off doesn't it!

Canadian'eh!
12-25-2023, 04:26 PM
2 time MVP and 2 time SB champ.

Not having a good year by his standard, but he’s earned a lot of slack.

Kelce has lost a step and the WRs aren’t very good. Too much to overcome.

Woodman
12-25-2023, 04:30 PM
Kelce has lost a step and the WRs aren’t very good. Too much to overcome.
****ing Shame!!

sukie
12-25-2023, 04:35 PM
How many pick 6 ints and fumble returns for TDs does each have?

Novacane
12-25-2023, 04:57 PM
I don't remember any for Josh.

sukie
12-25-2023, 05:28 PM
I don't remember any for Josh.
I do not either. Karen Mahomes handed the raiders 14 points all in his own losing the game. It’s one thing to get picked at the opponents 20 after a failed 60 yard bomb… that’s a punt.

but to have 14 scored with your feet I. The field… that’s disastrous. But Josh is a turnover machine

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 08:30 PM
He has the hardware. Josh’s seasons always end in disappointment. Mahomes has two rings.

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 08:37 PM
Allen is looking more and more like Jim Kelly. He gets the wins. He gets the stats. But he doesn’t win the big one.

Cntrygal
12-25-2023, 08:43 PM
He has the hardware. Josh’s seasons always end in disappointment. Mahomes has two rings.

Past accomplishments (in prior seasons) should not count towards a seasonal award. (I know that's not reality, but dammit)

BuffaloBlitz83
12-25-2023, 09:01 PM
Allen is looking more and more like Jim Kelly. He gets the wins. He gets the stats. But he doesn’t win the big one.

Kelly never had the best stats in the league. I liked him better but compare his numbers to Marino, Young, and Elway

TacklingDummy
12-25-2023, 10:12 PM
Allen is looking more and more like Jim Kelly. He gets the wins. He gets the stats. But he doesn’t win the big one.

STFU

Too bad being a troll isnt against the new TOS rules.

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 10:16 PM
Past accomplishments (in prior seasons) should not count towards a seasonal award. (I know that's not reality, but dammit)

I’m not saying it’s right. But look… Neither team is where they were predicted to be when the season started.

They have the same record. Allen has the better numbers: slightly worse in turnovers but way better in TD’s. But they’ve beat us in the playoffs. We’ve beaten them in the reg season multiple times but never in the playoffs. They’ve won it all 2x, we never have. They lead their Div and will likely get at least one home playoff game. We don’t control our own destiny in terms of winning our Div and getting a home playoff game. The TD numbers aren’t enough to counteract that.

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 10:17 PM
STFU

Too bad being a troll isnt against the new TOS rules.

Too bad stating reality isn’t being a troll. Allen puts up monster numbers but doesn’t finish the job when it counts most.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-25-2023, 10:22 PM
Too bad stating reality isn’t being a troll. Allen puts up monster numbers but doesn’t finish the job when it counts most.

Neither did mahomes this year. Actually he was the only reason They lost today. Gave 14 points away

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 10:43 PM
Neither did mahomes this year. Actually he was the only reason They lost today. Gave 14 points away

Ok. He’s got two rings. That makes it a lot easier to forgive these games.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-25-2023, 10:47 PM
Ok. He’s got two rings. That makes it a lot easier to forgive these games.

So does Eli and rapisberger.

OpIv37
12-25-2023, 10:55 PM
So does Eli and rapisberger.

What’s your point? Neither play anymore.

acehole
12-26-2023, 08:03 AM
Mahomes 25 TDs, 14 Ints, 2 fumbles

Allen 40 TDs, 15 ints, 3 fumbles

And the records are identical. Media never says anything about his turnovers ever....

Because the media is useless and stupid. THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT A "PROBLEM".


His shoulder might be however.