A different kind of drought

[YardRat]

But it's still a drought.

When that drought is not making the playoffs at all, it's obvious to everybody that changes need to be made...something different needs to be done.

When that drought is an inability to get past the divisional round of the playoffs, when does it become obvious that 'changes' and 'different' are necessary?

This team has playoff DNA...but they don't have championship DNA.

[Novacane]

Re: A different kind of drought

McD is a playoff coach. He's not a championship coach.

[Historian]

Re: A different kind of drought

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: A different kind of drought

There was a noticeable decline in the play of several guys this season.

Both Safeties are looking like they should retire. Maybe Poyer has another season in him. Hyde is done. He was awesome for us so it makes me sad to say it.

Floyd started out great but disappeared late in the season.

Von is making too much for a guy that may have an empty tank.

Diggs wasn't consistently separating and that very well could be because he was playing hurt. He sat out a lot of plays this year.

Davis was not close being as good as he has been.

Bass looks like something is wrong with him.

Josh was forcing a lot of throws and throwing really bad interceptions, as in repeating the same mistakes multiple times. His throws didn't look as easy as when he was chucking it in 2021 and the beginning of 22. But I'm less worried about him.

[justasportsfan]

Re: A different kind of drought

The same was said about Cowher before he finally won a sb.

[Historian]

Re: A different kind of drought

Reid.

Go back and look at his Philly records.

Abysmal.

[Woodman]

Re: A different kind of drought

We need defensive talent .... we applied no pressure and we're lacking terribly in coverage.

The right hand didn't know what to expect from the left.

Benford and Bernard would probably have made a difference but it's more than that.

Poyer and Hyde can't cut it .... their better days have long passed by.

Gotta cut bait with many.

[Novacane]

Re: A different kind of drought

Reid.

Go back and look at his Philly records.

Abysmal.

Big difference. Reid never had a super star QB in Philly yet he still could get to the playoffs. McNabb was not a super star so don't even go there.

McDermott has the great QB and still can't win in the playoffs. If he didn't have JA he'd never make the playoffs. Hell, he'd of been fired after 3 years and DC somewhere. McD is not in Reids league.

[Historian]

Re: A different kind of drought

Big difference. Reid never had a super star QB in Philly yet he still could get to the playoffs. McNabb was not a super star so don't even go there.

McDermott has the great QB and still can't win in the playoffs. If he didn't have JA he'd never make the playoffs. Hell, he'd of been fired after 3 years and DC somewhere. McD is not in Reids league.

You missed my point.

It was his first HC gig.

He took a lot of playoff lumps, even though his teams performed well enough to usually make the post-season.

That's where McDermott is at.

And McNabb was pretty good.

[Novacane]

Re: A different kind of drought

You missed my point.

It was his first HC gig.

He took a lot of playoff lumps, even though his teams performed well enough to usually make the post-season.

That's where McDermott is at.

And McNabb was pretty good.

What point did I miss? That McDermott will eventually get there? I don't see it.

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You missed my point.

It was his first HC gig.

He took a lot of playoff lumps, even though his teams performed well enough to usually make the post-season.

That's where McDermott is at.

And McNabb was pretty good.

He's not PM or JA though. They're future HOF'ers.

[Historian]

Re: A different kind of drought

I feel bad for you then Nov, because the last 5 or 6 years have been pretty special, IMO.

[Novacane]

Re: A different kind of drought

I feel bad for you then Nov, because the last 5 or 6 years have been pretty special, IMO.

I'm almost as old as you so I know that. I'd like to see a championship in my lifetime though. Do you think McDermott can get us one? I have serious doubts about that.

I'm not even one that's really all about firing him. I was at 6-6. Not so much now because I know it could get a lot worse. Id be ok with taking the gamble we could get the guy but im ok staying the course too.Maybe we'll get lucky one year. I'm just not going to expect it.

[Typ0]

Re: A different kind of drought

I feel bad for you then Nov, because the last 5 or 6 years have been pretty special, IMO.

The last 5 or 6 years has been pretty special if you are a part of a loser culture with a loser mentality.

Other than that the last 5 or 6 years has done nothing but fall short of the goals.

Guess you can sign-up for the finger pointers and/or excuse makers or the ones who don't accept anything until they hoist the Lombardi. IF JA is the talent than can get it done then we need the later here fast....

[YardRat]

Re: A different kind of drought

The same was said about Cowher before he finally won a sb.

Reid.

Go back and look at his Philly records.

Abysmal.

Bill Cowher took Pittsburgh to a Super Bowl within his first three years.

Reid never took a team to the SB until he was on his second team.

The goal for us isn't to have McD (or Allen) go elsewhere and win a title for somebody else. It's for them to win one here.

But what both have been doing isn't working, so both need to make changes to get over the hump.

[OpIv37]

Re: A different kind of drought

I feel bad for you then Nov, because the last 5 or 6 years have been pretty special, IMO.

The last 5 or 6 years were better than the 2 decade mark, but we have to want more.

NE made 9 SB's with Brady and won 6.
KC with Mahomes already made 3 SB's and won 2 and they likely aren't done yet.
The Bengals and Eagles have made it to the SB with their current QB's.

I left a few teams out too. It's great that we broke the drought and can consistently win the div and make the playoffs but at some point it's not enough. I don't expect Allen to win 6 but one would be nice. Hell, just winning the AFC would be nice.