Texas DT is a throwback to Bills great Ted Washington

[Woodman]

MOBILE, Ala. – A modern-day Ted Washington is an intriguing draft prospect for teams in need of big defensive tackles in the 2024 NFL Draft.

Buffalo, of course, is one of those teams, and Texas’ T’Vondre Sweat is a man who could look good in the middle of the Bills’ defense.

Sweat, 6-foot-4 and 362 pounds, won the Outland Trophy as the best interior lineman in college football this season, along with earning first-team All-America honors.

Sweat is so dominant pushing people with his power he admitted he sometimes tries other moves that are less easy for him.



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[Canadian'eh!]

Love him as an option in round 2. Oliver would have a great time with that monster next to him.

[OpIv37]

IDK. That true space eating nose tackle is so 20 years ago.

Im not saying he can’t be effective. I’m saying the pace of the modern game will wear on him and when he goes off the field, good OC’s and good QB’s will see their opportunity.

[Canadian'eh!]

IDK. That true space eating nose tackle is so 20 years ago.

Im not saying he can’t be effective. I’m saying the pace of the modern game will wear on him and when he goes off the field, good OC’s and good QB’s will see their opportunity.

We as ready rotate our DL a lot, but it’s worth noting he played a good number more snaps than Byron Murphy who he played next to (and Murphy is seen as the 1st rounder)

[DetoxTent]

Wrong forum.

[Woodman]

Love him as an option in round 2. Oliver would have a great time with that monster next to him.

Pick 60 can't believe he'd still be available.

Possible he won't be there at 28.

Top 3 priorities IMO are ..... WR,S and DL in no particular order.

[Woodman]

IDK. That true space eating nose tackle is so 20 years ago.

Im not saying he can’t be effective. I’m saying the pace of the modern game will wear on him and when he goes off the field, good OC’s and good QB’s will see their opportunity.

Not if he does his job .....

[sukie]

IDK. That true space eating nose tackle is so 20 years ago.

Im not saying he can’t be effective. I’m saying the pace of the modern game will wear on him and when he goes off the field, good OC’s and good QB’s will see their opportunity.

This would be a Ted Washington today. Massive but with added explosiveness. The freaks that play the game today were unheard of when big Ted played. The speed on these monsters is stupid in today’s football. I agree that if he was a space eater primarily then yeah… bygone era doesn’t translate but these new breed of DTs have unheard of athleticism on top of space eating mass.

I will not blindly categorize anyone based on past comparables alone

[TheConsigliere]

Pick him in the 1st round and the Best Available Centre in the 2nd round.

Takes care of the middle of your DL and OL for years to come.

[Canadian'eh!]

Pick 60 can't believe he'd still be available.

Possible he won't be there at 28.

Top 3 priorities IMO are ..... WR,S and DL in no particular order.

I would be pretty shocked if he’s gone in round 1.

He has a few pass rush moves but isn’t a pass rush specialist. Most teams are looking more for that.

he might go in round 2 before 60, but I wouldn’t take him round 1

[Woodman]

I would be pretty shocked if he’s gone in round 1.

He has a few pass rush moves but isn’t a pass rush specialist. Most teams are looking more for that.

he might go in round 2 before 60, but I wouldn’t take him round 1



Right now it's so hard to tell ..... he's a beast question is does he make sense?

Priority number 1 is??

[Canadian'eh!]

Pick him in the 1st round and the Best Available Centre in the 2nd round.

Takes care of the middle of your DL and OL for years to come.

That would be a reach. I’d trade back a bit and take Powers-Jackson before taking Sweat at 28.

But I think it’s a mistake to not grab a WR from this draft class in round 1

[Canadian'eh!]

Right now it's so hard to tell ..... he's a beast question is does he make sense?

Priority number 1 is??

Like I said in the other post. This WR class is deep with top talent. I really feel it needs to be a great reason if we don’t go WR. That said I’d be very very tempted if S Tyler Nubin is there at 28

[Oaf]

If he weighs over 300lbs we're not drafting him. Hell, if someone's over 310, we're not even giving them a camp tryout.

[Woodman]

Like I said in the other post. This WR class is deep with top talent. I really feel it needs to be a great reason if we don’t go WR. That said I’d be very very tempted if S Tyler Nubin is there at 28

I'll never object to an impact player on the defensive side of the ball.

[Woodman]

If he weighs over 300lbs we're not drafting him. Hell, if someone's over 310, we're not even giving them a camp tryout.
Brown is 311 we drafted him.

Torrence is 346 we drafted him.

[Mad Max]

Pick him in the 1st round and the Best Available Centre in the 2nd round.

Takes care of the middle of your DL and OL for years to come.

If we take a first round DT it better be Jer’zhan Newton. Dude gives me Aaron Donald vibes.

[Woodman]

If we take a first round DT it better be Jer’zhan Newton. Dude gives me Aaron Donald vibes.
He is actually mocked to us.

[Kenny]

no thanks, unless this is some top5 talent that magically falls to us... DT is not a priority in the first (or even 2nd round).

WR and S need to taken care of. C, CB and DE, I'd rank high as well.

[Woodman]

no thanks, unless this is some top5 talent that magically falls to us... DT is not a priority in the first (or even 2nd round).

WR and S need to taken care of. C, CB and DE, I'd rank high as well.

WR and S seem to be the most popular choices.

I'd have to say Center is right up there if the right player fell to us.

[TheConsigliere]

WR and S seem to be the most popular choices.

I'd have to say Center is right up there if the right player fell to us.

Same ignorance every year by fans.

They always undervalue the OL and DL because they do not understand the game but they can clap when a WR catches a pass or a Safety makes a INT.

It all starts up front.

It always has.

It always will.

[Mad Max]

Same ignorance every year by fans.

They always undervalue the OL and DL because they do not understand the game but they can clap when a WR catches a pass or a Safety makes a INT.

It all starts up front.

It always has.

It always will.
It’s not that black and white. Sure the old adage of you build from the trenches out (after QB) is generally true, there are many many exceptions.

In this years draft for example. Who would take a lineman (O or D) over Marvin Harrison Jr.? Nobody.

Then there’s draft position. It’s almost unheard of that a true game changing lineman drops to the bottom third of the first round. Those guys are usually gone by pick 10 and always gone by pick 15 max.

A game changing WR however can be found where we pick. Pick the game changer.

Now let’s look at unit effectiveness. Both of our lines were good enough to win…we lost not because of them but because we couldn’t score enough…a lineman doesn’t change that a stud WR does.

I don’t know the stats on this one but it seems lineman bust/mediocre out at a much higher rate than do WR (off the top of my head Aaron Maybin, Marcel Dareus, Mike Williams, Eric Flowers, JOHN MCCARGO!!!) . The WR therefore is a much safer pick especially when where we pick is factored in.

[Woodman]

Truly the success of a team depends so much on talent judgement.

We need great scouts!

I would look to invest more perhaps a great deal more in that area.

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Strength and Conditioning coaches also are extremely important especially with a 17 game regular season.

It's almost impossible to get through a season anymore with most of your starters.

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I love football but I wish we could go to a 15 game regular season schedule.

[YardRat]

It’s not that black and white. Sure the old adage of you build from the trenches out (after QB) is generally true, there are many many exceptions.

In this years draft for example. Who would take a lineman (O or D) over Marvin Harrison Jr.? Nobody.

Then there’s draft position. It’s almost unheard of that a true game changing lineman drops to the bottom third of the first round. Those guys are usually gone by pick 10 and always gone by pick 15 max.

A game changing WR however can be found where we pick. Pick the game changer.

Now let’s look at unit effectiveness. Both of our lines were good enough to win…we lost not because of them but because we couldn’t score enough…a lineman doesn’t change that a stud WR does.

I don’t know the stats on this one but it seems lineman bust/mediocre out at a much higher rate than do WR (off the top of my head Aaron Maybin, Marcel Dareus, Mike Williams, Eric Flowers, JOHN MCCARGO!!!) . The WR therefore is a much safer pick especially when where we pick is factored in.

Maybe if Dawkins doesn't get pushed back into Allen the throw to Shakir isn't a one-hopper and the offense walks off the field with a four point lead.

I still put most of the blame on Josh for that play, but it's a consideration relative to the discussion.

[Canadian'eh!]

It’s not that black and white. Sure the old adage of you build from the trenches out (after QB) is generally true, there are many many exceptions.

In this years draft for example. Who would take a lineman (O or D) over Marvin Harrison Jr.? Nobody.

Then there’s draft position. It’s almost unheard of that a true game changing lineman drops to the bottom third of the first round. Those guys are usually gone by pick 10 and always gone by pick 15 max.

A game changing WR however can be found where we pick. Pick the game changer.

Now let’s look at unit effectiveness. Both of our lines were good enough to win…we lost not because of them but because we couldn’t score enough…a lineman doesn’t change that a stud WR does.

I don’t know the stats on this one but it seems lineman bust/mediocre out at a much higher rate than do WR (off the top of my head Aaron Maybin, Marcel Dareus, Mike Williams, Eric Flowers, JOHN MCCARGO!!!) . The WR therefore is a much safer pick especially when where we pick is factored in.

I agree with the sentiment of you post.

Josh needs better weapons at the WR position. We HOPE Shakir is one. We HOPE Diggs isn't toast. We do need to look for a future #1 WR.

That said... Mahomes was ENTIRELY too comfortable and not under pressure. You need to pick the players you feel will be good for many years. I would think a WR will be there they like at 28, but if not, don't just take one to take one. Take the guy you think adds the most game changing ability.

[JoeMama]

Love him as an option in round 2. Oliver would have a great time with that monster next to him.

Boy I sure do miss the good old days with Ted Washington eating up 3 blockers while Cowart and Holecek roved the dual MLB slot in the late 90s.

Those defenses sure were fun to watch.

[TheConsigliere]

Boy I sure do miss the good old days with Ted Washington eating up 3 blockers while Cowart and Holecek roved the dual MLB slot in the late 90s.

Those defenses sure were fun to watch.

Yup.

But…but….but…Joey we have to get draft value by waiting until he drops to the 2nd round because in the end don’t you know that draft value wins games?

[Mad Max]

Yup.

But…but….but…Joey we have to get draft value by waiting until he drops to the 2nd round because in the end don’t you know that draft value wins games?

Draft value.

There’s another pseudo-science/boondoggle they sell us/themselves on.

With draft value we’ve had Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold taken over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and Fred Warner and Marc Andrews lasting until the third round in the same draft. Oh and Mr. Irrelevant is the Starting NFC QB in the Super Bowl?!

I guess my point/opinion is that go ahead and make a draft board but then interject massive amounts of common sense. You won’t do any worse and will probably do much better.

Our own draft value strategy in years past netted us how many bum DBs and DLs for example.

So if the draft is more luck than science I’m taking the best guy in my estimation in my biggest area of need in every round.

[TheConsigliere]

Draft value.

There’s another pseudo-science/boondoggle they sell us/themselves on.

With draft value we’ve had Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold taken over Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and Fred Warner and Marc Andrews lasting until the third round in the same draft. Oh and Mr. Irrelevant is the Starting NFC QB in the Super Bowl?!

I guess my point/opinion is that go ahead and make a draft board but then interject massive amounts of common sense. You won’t do any worse and will probably do much better.

Our own draft value strategy in years past netted us how many bum DBs and DLs for example.

So if the draft is more luck than science I’m taking the best guy in my estimation in my biggest area of need in every round.


Yup.