Super Bowl LVIII Game Thread — Swiftie Approved

[TheConsigliere]

Party Plans?

Who you got working winning?

Thoughts?

[DetoxTent]

My thought is that you drink too much spiked lemonade.

[DraftBoy]

I’m just looking forward to the hopeful meltdown of football fans over the Usher halftime show and Swiftie celebration of a Chiefs Super Bowl.

Very little is more enjoyable than watching grown adults display the level of immaturity required to lose their **** over things they have no control over and are as dumb as a halftime show and a personal relationship.

[Woodman]

:gobills:

[TheConsigliere]

I’m just looking forward to the hopeful meltdown of football fans over the Usher halftime show and Swiftie celebration of a Chiefs Super Bowl.

Very little is more enjoyable than watching grown adults display the level of immaturity required to lose their **** over things they have no control over and are as dumb as a halftime show and a personal relationship.


https://youtu.be/GxBSyx85Kp8?si=MuDRLWCeaVpkP0hk

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Absolutely fed up with the complexity of this crappy old software to embed a damn video.

[Woodman]

https://youtu.be/GxBSyx85Kp8?si=MuDRLWCeaVpkP0hk

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Absolutely fed up with the complexity of this crappy old software to embed a damn video.

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:gobills:

[TheConsigliere]

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:gobills:

Thank you

[DraftBoy]

https://youtu.be/GxBSyx85Kp8?si=MuDRLWCeaVpkP0hk

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Absolutely fed up with the complexity of this crappy old software to embed a damn video.

Yeah…I don’t care.

[imbondz]

:puke: I’m rooting for Usher.

[notacon]

I'm an old fart Classic Rock guy....I never even heard of Usher until it was announced he would be the halftime entertainment.

I'll watch with an open mind, I DO like all different kinds of music, and my daughters are always turning me on to new artists. Usher is not one of them.

Interestingly, The Athletic published a ranking (us sports fans eat up ranking just about anything :D:) of Super Bowl halftime shows (https://theathletic.com/5244684/2024/02/11/super-bowl-halftime-show-rankings-usher-prince-u2-rihanna/?source=freeweeklyemail&campaign=602288&userId=6537902)by baseball writer, Levi Weaver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levi_Weaver), who has a fairly accomplished career as a musician, singer and songwriter.

A ranking of musical shows is soooooooo subjective and this one is about as subjective as it gets. He's obviously not a classic rack guy and I thought he insults The Who, placing them #26 (out of 33) was a travesty of bad taste.

The last time I saw The Who live, Levi Weaver was still in diapers. (early 80’s). Almost thirty years later, The Who sounded as tight as ever. Spectacular sound. Perfect performance.

Reminded me of Queen’s amazing Live-Aid set that has gone down as one of the best live rock performances in history.

But, my ranking is not simply because of musical taste. The Rolling Stones are one of my favorite groups as well, but they sounded TERRIBLE! Like a bunch of old guys that have not rehearsed for years trying their best to relive the old days.

They failed miserably.

Paul McCartney (and The Beatles) are probably my all-time favorite. My reaction to Paul was meh.

The biggest sin was placing the boring Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg…etc…at #2. The whole show was a big fat bore.

On the other hand, Prince has never been one of my favorites. I have no songs of his on any of my playlists, but his performance was captivating and for the ages.

THAT is the sure sign of an electric performers, when they can captive one that does not really love his songs already.

So, Mr. Weaver got #1 spot on.

What is great about the article is that there is a video link to each and every show.

[notacon]

https://youtu.be/GxBSyx85Kp8?si=MuDRLWCeaVpkP0hk

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Absolutely fed up with the complexity of this crappy old software to embed a damn video.


I do not know why you are having a problem. It's pretty simple to use the "share" option on Youtube page of the video and click on "embed"...copy the link (not the one you posted above or the one in the pic below) and paste in your post.

20170


It works every time I have done it.


In any event, thanks for providing this video. Now I know why I never heard of Usher. Or, rather, why I paid zero attention to him. That song is not my cup of tea. At all.

[TheConsigliere]

:puke: I’m rooting for Usher.

We all are…even Tom Cruise…





https://youtu.be/7PFeJJYMxbw?si=gdrqXi_ym5tby9KD

[TheConsigliere]

I do not know why you are having a problem. It's pretty simple to use the "share" option on Youtube page of the video and click on "embed"...copy the link (not the one you posted above or the one in the pic below) and paste in your post.

20170


It works every time I have done it.


In any event, thanks for providing this video. Now I know why I never heard of Usher. Or, rather, why I paid zero attention to him. That song is not my cup of tea. At all.

Where is EMBED in YouTube.

I can copy a link in YouTube.

When I come back to here I can’t embed.

I paste and it does not embed.

Historian says to click the icon on the left but when I place my cursor where I want to place the YouTube video, the hilite of the icon goes off.

[Woodman]

We all are…even Tom Cruise…

https://youtu.be/7PFeJJYMxbw?si=gdrqXi_ym5tby9KD


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[Woodman]

Where is EMBED in YouTube.

I can copy a link in YouTube.

When I come back to here I can’t embed.

I paste and it does not embed.

Historian says to click the icon on the left but when I place my cursor where I want to place the YouTube video, the hilite of the icon goes off.

Click share then click embed ..... then I highlight the embed and drag it to the side .... next i click the insert video window and drag the highlighted embed into it.

[TheConsigliere]

Click share then click embed ..... then I highlight the embed and drag it to the side .... next i click the insert video window and drag the highlighted embed into it.

I do not see an EMBED option in YouTube and I have YouTube Premium

[TheConsigliere]

I see copy link in YouTube but NO embed.

At other Bills sites, I just take the copied link and paste it in the body of my post and it automatically embeds.

NOT here.

https://youtu.be/sr9_GfeoCjk?si=4IvshJZiWdWv7m4d

[T&C]

I do not see an EMBED option in YouTube and I have YouTube Premium

This board is a bit antiquated like another one I'm on but the easiest way is to cut and paste the addy/url from the youtube video you want to show.

Then, when you hit post, reply to post etc. Here a small menu pops up above. Select the option 2nd from the right... or the 2nd to the right from the earth with a red X. Click on it and paste your addy from youtube. Click ok and then submit.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tk15YHjamE

[Woodman]

I do not see an EMBED option in YouTube and I have YouTube Premium

When you click Share the embed option should appear.

[Woodman]

I see copy link in YouTube but NO embed.

At other Bills sites, I just take the copied link and paste it in the body of my post and it automatically embeds.

NOT here.

https://youtu.be/sr9_GfeoCjk?si=4IvshJZiWdWv7m4d
I just clicked your link.

Just beneath the video the Share option appears.

Click that next.

When i do that embed appears along with these others facebook .... email .... X ..... etc.

Click embed ............ copy that ..... i usually drag it to the side.

Then on the Billszone you can select at the top of the post window the insert video option.

Next drag your copied embed into that window and click ok.

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I see copy link in YouTube but NO embed.

At other Bills sites, I just take the copied link and paste it in the body of my post and it automatically embeds.

NOT here.

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[Woodman]

I have a MacBook Air the procedure may be different depending on what your using.

[TheConsigliere]

iPad Pro

[Ingtar33]

if it unfolds without ****ery the 49ers should win pretty easily. but never underestimate shanahan's ability to forget he has CMC and lean too much on mr irrelivant.

[Typ0]

Mahomes Reid > Purdy Shanahan is it for me. I'm on the Chiefs and think Swift should make an appearance at halftime with her pink guitar.

[Woodman]

20172

[TheConsigliere]

So the pre-game from ESPN Mexico started here at the top of the hour — 5:00 PM ET or 7:00 PM here — and obviously it is in Spanish.

I watched last year’s SB here as well in Spanish.

Quite frankly, it is more exciting and passionate in Spanish.

In any event, my Spanish is not great and they are talking as fast as hummingbirds however every sentence had the words PATRICK MAHOMES.

Screw him!!!

I am rooting for a crushing 49’ers victory.

[Novacane]

49ers by 10. Nick Bosa wins MVP.

[Dr. Lecter]

Dammit. I so wish I was in Vegas right now.

[Novacane]

Has a Buffalo Bill ever won man of the year award?

[Ginger Vitis]

Has a Buffalo Bill ever won man of the year award?

No

[Woodman]

:gobills:


20172

[Novacane]

Hey! An artist I've actually heard of!

[Mace]

Heart says 49'ers, want to see Purdy make it to the mountaintop. Head says Chiefs, they take care of biz when they need to.

[TheConsigliere]

Heart says 49'ers, want to see Purdy make it to the mountaintop. Head says Chiefs, they take care of biz when they need to.

Screw you in your head Mace.

[sahlensguy]

Not interested in this one. Bill's, Ravens laid down for the Chiefs. Packers, Lions laid down for the 9ers. I must exist in the Matrix

[sahlensguy]

Ffs

[Novacane]

There goes McCaffreys chance for MVP

[sahlensguy]

Cleavage in an M&Ms commercial. There are no limits

[Mace]

Screw you in your head Mace.

People been trying to do that for years, old son, never works out well.

Well 49'ers were doing well up until that.

[Mace]

Nice defense.

[sahlensguy]

Capitalism at its peak. Commercials are spectacles. So much so, they're all the same. Even Jesus getting into it.

[Novacane]

San Fran very sloppy.

[Mace]

49'ers need to tighten it up and they'd have control.

[Mace]

49'ers D looks very well prepared atm.

[TheConsigliere]

The 49’ers have just the right DL to deal with Mahomes.

[Novacane]

Kind of hard to make a play on the ball when the db is holding your right arm down.

[Mad Max]

Who thinks Bass makes that kick?

[TheConsigliere]

Who thinks Bass makes that kick?

We need Gus the Mule

[Novacane]

49'ers need to tighten it up and they'd have control.

They are playing like the Bills. Dominating then shooting themselves in the foot.

[sahlensguy]

The should have been interception is now a fumble recovery

[Mad Max]

Taylor not excited unless it’s her bae making a catch

[Novacane]

Huge turnover. SanFran has been beating themselves all game. Hopefully that turns it around,

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Taylor not excited unless it’s her bae making a catch

Travis has been invisible. CBS couldn't control themselves any longer. Swifties may have turned the game off.

[Novacane]

Almost tackled his coach. WTF Kelce.

[Typ0]

WOW. Hard to believe this game.

[Mad Max]

Chefs have no respect for Mr. Irrelevant.

[Novacane]

Why can't something freaky like that happen to Mahomes

[Mad Max]

For the “scripted” crowd…when does Mahomie not get the benefit of the doubt on that throwaway. The NFL may be wanting to pass the torch hahaha

[Novacane]

Chiefs punter has been their MVP.

[Mad Max]

Why can't something freaky like that happen to Mahomes

Say what you want about Kinko the Clown, he’s been extremely durable. Im just happy that his trick bag has been kept in check thus far

[Novacane]

For the “scripted” crowd…when does Mahomie not get the benefit of the doubt on that throwaway. The NFL may be wanting to pass the torch hahaha

That call shocked me. A make up call is coming.

[Mad Max]

They gotta start calling some draws for Purdy

[Novacane]

Tears an achilles running out on the field. Unbelievable.

[Novacane]

Freaky injuries happen on grass too.

[Mad Max]

We should have kept Playoff Lennie and run all day with him and Cook on the Chefs

[Mace]

That was sweet.

[Mad Max]

Hahaha Chefs getting out Cheffed with their own trickeration

[Mad Max]

Freaky injuries happen on grass too.

Or rubber mats

[Mad Max]

Why they bother with helaire when they got Pacheco. Pretty much always a wasted down

[Mace]

McDermott would go bendy here and allow points.

[Mace]

Alrighty then. Chiefs win a close game under 2 minutes. Going to bed.

[Novacane]

Alrighty then. Chiefs win a close game under 2 minutes. Going to bed.

You're going to miss the halftime show.

[Novacane]

Whichever team gets their all-pro TE involved in the 2nd half will win the game.

[TheConsigliere]

Great Half-Time.

Miss Keye’s ass was ROCKIN’!!!

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Kelce so unlikable

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/N5n732e76s4RgaVo/?mibextid=UVffzb

[Novacane]

Kelce so unlikable

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/N5n732e76s4RgaVo/?mibextid=UVffzb

Him and Mahomes are total douche bags when things aren't going their way.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Him and Mahomes are total douche bags when things aren't going their way.

**** Mr pfizer

[Novacane]

Niners need a TD.

[ParanoidAndroid]

The turf monster is out to kill. First Greenlaw, now Debo.

[Novacane]

The over bettors need the offenses to get going.

[Mad Max]

The over bettors need the offenses to get going.
It’s over for the over bettors

[Mad Max]

The turf monster is out to kill. First Greenlaw, now Debo.

Debo is made of glass though. Dude is constantly hurt it seems like

[Mad Max]

**** Bass

[Novacane]

Was there any doubt he was making that kick?

[Mad Max]

Was there any doubt he was making that kick?
Nope. Bass would have missed wide left and right…by 8 yards.

[Novacane]

Bass would have had it blocked and run back for a TD.

[Mad Max]

RUN PURDY.

[Mad Max]

Kyle Shanahan out thinking himself

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This bum finished ahead of Josh freaking Allen in MVP voting. Let that sink in.

[Novacane]

Chiefs are winning this. 49ers offense has gone home for the night.

[Mad Max]

Kelce was wincing

[Novacane]

That's game.

[Mad Max]

Yep. The Chefs are definitely the new Patsies with the stupid things teams do against them to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory

[Novacane]

Shanahan is becoming the SB choke artist.

[Mad Max]

Shanahan is becoming the SB choke artist.

Good thing you said that on a Bills board. You’d be crucified on a general forum

[JoeMama]

I'm a Bills bitter ender.

Once they're out of the playoffs, the NFL is dead to me.

I haven't watched a Super Bowl in decades.

The Puppy Bowl on the other hand... quality TV.

[Mad Max]

I'm a Bills bitter ender.

Once they're out of the playoffs, the NFL is dead to me.

I haven't watched a Super Bowl in decades.

The Puppy Bowl on the other hand... quality TV.

Let’s hope you’re watching the next three games

[Mad Max]

That was a ballzzzzy call

[Novacane]

I'd of taken the FG

[Mad Max]

Beautiful. Lovely. Marvelous.

[Novacane]

We have an MVP candidate now if SF can hold this lead.

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stupid ****ing kicker

[Mad Max]

Sigh. Stupid things happening

[Mad Max]

Let’s see another pick against Mahomie

[Mad Max]

Does Kelce have an invisibility cloak? how is he so open

[Mad Max]

What a garbage game. at least there’s some drama upcoming. Hopefully with a happy ending

[Novacane]

What a garbage game. at least there’s some drama upcoming. Hopefully with a happy ending

It's been a snoozer so far.

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No memorable commercials either.

[Novacane]

Ideally SF is attempting a gimmee FG as time runs out.

[Mad Max]

Ya I was gonna mention that. Even the commercials were meh

[TheConsigliere]

Just run the ball

[Mad Max]

Most important third down of the season

[Novacane]

Most important third down of the season

Convert and they'll have their chance to run out the clock.

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Time for Kittle to show up.

[Mad Max]

Convert and they'll have their chance to run out the clock.
...
Sounds strangely familiar

[Mad Max]

Hahahaha Nantz couldn’t believe he didn’t whiff

[Novacane]

I'm betting on OT

[Mad Max]

Let’s go. Time for a Bosa strip sack. Do NOT play prevent

[Mad Max]

That’s such a simple rule that Josh/our offense still hasn’t mastered. Dump off into the vacuum of open rusher

[sukie]

This is why Bass saved us from deeper anguish… 1:43 and 2 time outs … the walk off field goal would have hurt way more.

[Mad Max]

What a perfect time for Butker to shank

[Novacane]

Prime example of why our decisions after the 2 minute warning against KC were asinine.

[Mad Max]

Let’s go Mr. Irrelevant. Become relevant… and a legend.

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Prime example of why our decisions after the 2 minute warning against KC were asinine.

It was moronic. If Josh truly meant what he said about it then he’s a freaking moron.

[Mad Max]

Kyle Shanahan and Mcaffrey will be goatified if the 9ers lose.

Mcaffrey doesn’t fumble game is already over. Shanahan runs more. Same.

[Mad Max]

Oooh kinda nitpicky?

[Novacane]

Huge penalty. This game was basically over without that call.

[Novacane]

It was moronic. If Josh truly meant what he said about it then he’s a freaking moron.


It was moronic to say whether he meant it or not. It makes him sound like he doesn't have a clue.

[Mad Max]

I hope Chris Jones is not a Chief/Dolphin next year

[Novacane]

Chiefs will resign him. Dolphins don't have the cap space.

[Mad Max]

There was zero chance of a stop there

[Mad Max]

This game is proof of why you don’t get a defensive lineman in the first round. The best DL in the league can’t touch this guy.

you MUST concentrate your efforts on your offense scoring

[Mad Max]

GOATS

Mr. Irrelevant/Kyle Shananhan/Mcaffrey/Keeker

found every way to lose

[sukie]

Offensive scoring doesn’t stop that touchdown. Genius offensive plays. Mahomes did nothing special on that drive. Just executed great pattern throws.

[Canadian'eh!]

The difference, to me is that Shabahan didn’t lean on CMC on the plays they NEEDED. Purdy is not that guy.

[Novacane]

This game is proof of why you don’t get a defensive lineman in the first round. The best DL in the league can’t touch this guy.

you MUST concentrate your efforts on your offense scoring

With no time left on the clock. The Bills are the team that had the best chance to beat him in this playoffs. They choked it away and worse is their coach and QB insist they did the right thing. I don't see much chance of us ever getting past this team.

[TheConsigliere]

POOP!!!

[Woodman]

Won it on a blunder ..... didn't expect anything else.

[Mad Max]

With no time left on the clock. The Bills are the team that had the best chance to beat him in this playoffs. They choked it away and worse is their coach and QB insist they did the right thing. I don't see much chance of us ever getting past this team.

I do. We get lucky with a drafted WR and a healthy defense we can beat them. Besides Father Time is gonna come knocking on Kelce’s door soon. He’s half of Mahomie success.

[imbondz]

Knew that would happen. Kansas City is that good. And Mahomes is one of the best ever. Possibly the best. That’s what just happened.

[Novacane]

I do. We get lucky with a drafted WR and a healthy defense we can beat them. Besides Father Time is gonna come knocking on Kelce’s door soon. He’s half of Mahomie success.



So we have to rely on a lucky draft pick to beat them? There may be a year Mahomes goes down for the season. That's the Bills only chance.

[Mad Max]

Knew that would happen. Kansas City is that good. And Mahomes is one of the best ever. Possibly the best. That’s what just happened.
They’re that lucky. That’s for certain.

missed extra point. Make it and win
Mcaffrey fumble. Don’t fumble and win.
Shanahan doesn’t abandon the run they win.

I’ve said it before and it’s one hundred percent true. Teams ish themselves against the Chefs at least as much as the Chefs defeat them.

[Mad Max]

So we have to rely on a lucky draft pick to beat them? There may be a year Mahomes goes down for the season. That's the Bills only chance.
Luck is part of the game.
KC got lucky that some dumbass team gifted them the pick they used to get their HOF QB didn’t they?

[Novacane]

Knew that would happen. Kansas City is that good. And Mahomes is one of the best ever. Possibly the best. That’s what just happened.

And we're the dumb morons who gave him to KC. I love Josh Allen but Mahomes has something he doesn't. We don't deserve a championship for that reason alone.

[imbondz]

They’re that lucky. That’s for certain.

missed extra point. Make it and win
Mcaffrey fumble. Don’t fumble and win.
Shanahan doesn’t abandon the run they win.

I’ve said it before and it’s one hundred percent true. Teams ish themselves against the Chefs at least as much as the Chefs defeat them.
No. It’s Mahomes and him only that scares every team. He is the reason they win.

[Woodman]

They’re that lucky. That’s for certain.

missed extra point. Make it and win
Mcaffrey fumble. Don’t fumble and win.
Shanahan doesn’t abandon the run they win.

I’ve said it before and it’s one hundred percent true. Teams ish themselves against the Chefs at least as much as the Chefs defeat them.
no punt off the foot turnover and win.

[imbondz]

And we're the dumb morons who gave him to KC. I love Josh Allen but Mahomes has something he doesn't. We don't deserve a championship for that reason alone.
100% Love Josh Allen. But Mahomes has something Allen doesn’t.

[Mad Max]

No. It’s Mahomes and him only that scares every team. He is the reason they win.

It’s stupid. Teams are guilty of panicking and doing stupid things against them.

[Woodman]

This just proves a team with 6 losses can win it all.

[Mad Max]

no punt off the foot turnover and win.

Hahaha yes I forgot that one.

they schat every bed in the house. Snatched defeat from games yet to be played.

[Novacane]

They’re that lucky. That’s for certain.

missed extra point. Make it and win
Mcaffrey fumble. Don’t fumble and win.
Shanahan doesn’t abandon the run they win.

I’ve said it before and it’s one hundred percent true. Teams ish themselves against the Chefs at least as much as the Chefs defeat them.

KC would have played the 4th Q different if they needed a TD. Do you really believe they wouldn't have gotten one if they needed it?

Pachenco fumbles a lot closer to a TD than Mcaffrey did.

maybe. Maybe not.

KC won it. Like they have every close SB they've been in. They made the plays when they had to. I'd do yourself a favor and just accept reality. The NFL is their *****es and Mahomes has a least 3 more SB wins in him.

[imbondz]

It’s stupid. Teams are guilty of panicking and doing stupid things against them.

I agree but the Chiefs are that good. It can’t be teams fumble all the time. Doesn’t work anymore. Right now no team can beat the Chiefs

[Mad Max]

100% Love Josh Allen. But Mahomes has something Allen doesn’t.
He has Andy Reid and Kelce. That’s two hall of famers.

Josh is a monkey too often but I’ll ride or die with that mofo. He can win it for us.

[Novacane]

no punt off the foot turnover and win.

Do something with the Mahomes INT and they win. KC beat them. Stop with the sour grapes Bills fans.

[Mad Max]

KC would have played the 4th Q different if they needed a TD. Do you really believe they wouldn't have gotten one if they needed it?

Pachenco fumbles a lot closer to a TD than Mcaffrey did.

maybe. Maybe not.

KC won it. Like they have every close SB they've been in. They made the plays when they had to. I'd do yourself a favor and just accept reality. The NFL is their *****es and Mahomes has a least 3 more SB wins in him.
Nah. If for no other reason, Reid and Kelce aren’t gonna be around too much longer.

[Novacane]

If If I. KC can point to a lot of Ifs too. The team with the guy who will surpass Brady as the GOAT won. It won't be the last time.

[Mad Max]

Do something with the Mahomes INT and they win. KC beat them. Stop with the sour grapes Bills fans.

It’s not sour grapes. Just observation.

if it’s sour grapes than so is complaining about Josh’s decision making in our loss against them.

[sukie]

The offensive play calling was superb on that final drive. Slants and dump offs. Purdue could have made those throws. It was a brilliant drive call.

[Woodman]

Do something with the Mahomes INT and they win. KC beat them. Stop with the sour grapes Bills fans.

I really don't care that they won.

They managed their way through ......... all credit to Andy.

[imbondz]

One motherf***** after another motherf******

[Novacane]

Why in the hell would Reid walk away? Kelce sure didn't look like he's slowing down in the playoffs. A lot of wishful thinking. I get it. I want to have hope for the Bills too but I'm not going to make things up for false hope.

[Woodman]

Why in the hell would Reid walk away? Kelce sure didn't look like he's slowing down in the playoffs. A lot of wishful thinking. I get it. I want to have hope for the Bills too but I'm not going to make things up for false hope.

No way they leave .....

[Mad Max]

Why in the hell would Reid walk away? Kelce sure didn't look like he's slowing down in the playoffs. A lot of wishful thinking. I get it. I want to have hope for the Bills too but I'm not going to make things up for false hope.

I’m not counting the days until they leave. But no one escapes age. Saban the winningest coach in College Football history?…hung it up. Belichick winningest coach in the NFL? Pete Carrol?

Players break one too many body parts and the haystack tumbles.

Aside from that reality I’m not in your camp of “we can’t beat them”. I know we can.

[Novacane]

The sad thing is the Bills are probably the team with the best shot at beating them. The had it set up perfectly to do that twice. 13 seconds and this year with 2 minutes to go. Then stupidity set in.

The difference really is McD vs Reid. Josh and Mahomes are equally talented. McD vs Reid is like a race of Eeyore vs Secretariat.

[Mad Max]

The sad thing is the Bills are probably the team with the best shot at beating them. The had it set up perfectly to do that twice. 13 seconds and this year with 2 minutes to go. Then stupidity set in.

The difference really is McD vs Reid. Josh and Mahomes are equally talented. McD vs Reid is like a race of Eeyore vs Secretariat.

Like I said. Mahomie is playing with a stacked deck with Reid AND Kelce. Remove one and he has zero titles.

Give the Bills one and we have at least 1-2.

Im gonna be patient, Josh has 6-7 high level years left in him minimum. We’re gonna cash Lombardi in that window.

[Novacane]

Like I said. Mahomie is playing with a stacked deck with Reid AND Kelce. Remove one and he has zero titles.

Give the Bills one and we have at least 1-2.

Im gonna be patient, Josh has 6-7 high level years left in him minimum. We’re gonna cash Lombardi in that window.




But we don't. Maybe Kincaid can become a Kelsey. MAYBE. We're always going to lose the HC battle until Reid retires. I don't see that happening while Mahomes is around.

[Canadian'eh!]

100% Love Josh Allen. But Mahomes has something Allen doesn’t.

Yeah. Andy Reid

[Mad Max]

But we don't. Maybe Kincaid can become a Kelsey. MAYBE. We're always going to lose the HC battle until Reid retires. I don't see that happening while Mahomes is around.

Let’s hope for the sake of Bills fans everywhere including you that my point of view proves true.

In the meantime try and stop being a negativenancysourpussquitter!!!

[sahlensguy]

Could have been us...

[Woodman]

Could have been us...

Yup!

[Ingtar33]

No memorable commercials either.

I don't know... “It’s the 5th quarter, and we need a hole in one before the 7th inning stretch” - that paramount+ commercial with Patrick Stewart was probably the funniest superbowl ads I've seen in decades. he roasts tua, throws a football shaped kid, all to a creed song. just comical stuff.

[YardRat]

"We're never going to win anything until Brady retires."
"We're never going to win anything until Reid retires."

Newsflash---We're never going to win anything until the league decides we should, and maybe that means when Goodell retires.

[Historian]

100% Love Josh Allen. But Mahomes has something Allen doesn’t.

I honestly didn't think so, until this playoff season, and in fact, I thought KC would go down in flames having to win two on the road.

Then San Francisco throws everything but the kitchen sink at them, and still loses the Super Bowl.

Say it was Buffalo against the 49ers.

Does anyone think the Bills come back from 10-0?

Allen would have started pressing, and the Bills would have folded like a cheap suit.

Game would have most likely been over at the half.

As good as the Niners were last night, they still were no match for Mahomes and that defense.

And I can't begrudge the Hunt family, despite the fact that we gave them the Mahomes pick, when we needed a quarterback.

If it wasn't for them, there would be no Buffalo Bills.

The Bills have for the most part, been fun to watch over the last 5 or 6 years, but last nights game showed me just how far off they are.

Both offenses attack.

They play the down and distance game, and never get behind on the sticks.

Both defenses pressure the bejesus out of you, with basically their front four.

They blitz in obvious 3rd and longs.

And their kickers are amazingly accurate from over 50.

Buffalo has none of that.

And that's on the coaching.

And I think the thing that bugs me the most, is not that they've lost the last two years in the divisional round, it's that they've lost the last two years in the divisional round at home.

There was a time when we were unbeatable there.

Now it's just another lackluster performance, in a winner-take-all scenario.

I hope some day McDermott puts it all together, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[TheConsigliere]

I thought the star of the whole Superbowl was Alicia Keys’ ASS.

incredible!!!

https://youtu.be/dU-rg_3UXp0?si=57UHYC8Tyb8CIC_r

[Ingtar33]

I honestly didn't think so, until this playoff season, and in fact, I thought KC would go down in flames having to win two on the road.

Then San Francisco throws everything but the kitchen sink at them, and still loses the Super Bowl.

Say it was Buffalo against the 49ers.

Does anyone think the Bills come back from 10-0?

Allen would have started pressing, and the Bills would have folded like a cheap suit.

Game would have most likely been over at the half.

As good as the Niners were last night, they still were no match for Mahomes and that defense.

And I can't begrudge the Hunt family, despite the fact that we gave them the Mahomes pick, when we needed a quarterback.

If it wasn't for them, there would be no Buffalo Bills.

The Bills have for the most part, been fun to watch over the last 5 or 6 years, but last nights game showed me just how far off they are.

Both offenses attack.

They play the down and distance game, and never get behind on the sticks.

Both defenses pressure the bejesus out of you, with basically their front four.

They blitz in obvious 3rd and longs.

And their kickers are amazingly accurate from over 50.

Buffalo has none of that.

And that's on the coaching.

And I think the thing that bugs me the most, is not that they've lost the last two years in the divisional round, it's that they've lost the last two years in the divisional round at home.

There was a time when we were unbeatable there.

Now it's just another lackluster performance, in a winner-take-all scenario.

I hope some day McDermott puts it all together, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.


bro, there is so much wrong in this post...

First of all the bills wouldn't have had anywhere near the problems scoring on the 49ers the chiefs had (conversely the 49ers probably score on use a lot too). Lets not forget the bills were the only team to score more then 2 tds against that chiefs defense, and had JA not been hit on that 2nd down pass we would have had 4...

I've watched JA perform at or higher then Mahomes in various games, and still lose thanks to our flaccid defense which folds under pressure time after time. Does anyone believe that had we scored a TD on that last drive against KC that mahomes doesn't drive the field to win on a TD anyway?

All i got from watching that game last night is how far away our defense is from being superbowl quality. I don't come away thinking we had the wrong guy under center, as i've seen JA perform far better then both those guys last night.

[Historian]

I wasn't really criticizing Allen per se, but if you wanna compare the two, look only at the Divisional playoff game.

Allen had the ball for almost 40 minutes, including what could have been a game sealing drive at the end.

He failed.

Mahomes had the ball for roughly 20 minutes and won it....on the road.

I don't think Mahomes a better athlete, or a better passer.

He simply is cooler under pressure.

Even when he hasn't played his best game.

[Kenny]

I wasn't really criticizing Allen per se, but if you wanna compare the two, look only at the Divisional playoff game.

Allen had the ball for almost 40 minutes, including what could have been a game sealing drive at the end.

He failed.

Mahomes had the ball for roughly 20 minutes and won it....on the road.

I don't think Mahomes a better athlete, or a better passer.

He simply is cooler under pressure.

Even when he hasn't played his best game.
Agreed. We played ball possession because we knew our defense sucked. We were good in the first half, staying to script. The difference is, KC adjusted in the second half and shut down the run.
This is where we needed Josh to step up and stop playing runningback and turn into a passer. Probably a combination of all of the above (lack of scheme/adjustments, execution by WRs and execution by Allen himself), but it all failed.

[sahlensguy]

Agreed. We played ball possession because we knew our defense sucked. We were good in the first half, staying to script. The difference is, KC adjusted in the second half and shut down the run.
This is where we needed Josh to step up and stop playing runningback and turn into a passer. Probably a combination of all of the above (lack of scheme/adjustments, execution by WRs and execution by Allen himself), but it all failed.

It didn't all fail though. We were in a great spot at the 2:00 warning.

When the going gets tuff the tuff get going.

McD/Allen are proving to be a paper tigers. The ending wass almost predictable.

Mahonmes/Reed are on another level.

And we'll never beat them until we see how bad our strategy was.

[Historian]

Then there's Butker, who just erased another Bill from the record books.

HTF does Carolina let him walk?

[Historian]

https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/422944526_200517169785244_549072226826300022_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8cd0a2&_nc_ohc=z_MXDU1TCEQAX9xxnP_&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=03_AdRolyG-ZBfDdSyZdwSzytta60cVda2Md1q_dC94kpiimg&oe=65F1AE87

[imbondz]

May sound cheesy but I said it last night before it happened this last series separates the men from the boys. Just like the last Bills series did. KC had the balls to go for the TD AND keep it in Mahomes hands. Every other team in the league minus maybe the Lions kick the field goal. KC is that good in execution, that well coached, and unfortunately Mahomes absolutely has something I haven’t seen since Brady.

[cookie G]

Then there's Butker, who just erased another Bill from the record books.

HTF does Carolina let him walk

It might sound strange, considering its Reid and Mahomes, but THIS year, they played more like an early 2000s Patriots team than they did a Reid/Mahomes team of the past.

Their defense kept them in games and won most of them. They were the ones that were slowing down or stopping some of the higher scoring offenses in the league.


The offense was opportunistic, especially towards the end..but they were no where near the high flying, score-a-minute offenses of Chiefs teams in the recent past.

[Woodman]

Harrison Butker sets all-time Super Bowl record with nine total field goals made (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/harrison-butker-sets-all-time-super-bowl-record-with-nine-total-field-goals-made)

[Woodman]

49ers confirm the bad news on Dre Greenlaw, hope for his quick recovery (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/49ers-confirm-the-bad-news-on-dre-greenlaw-hope-for-his-quick-recovery)

[Woodman]

For the first time, the Super Bowl had no kickoff returns (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/for-the-first-time-the-super-bowl-had-no-kickoff-returns)

Super Bowl LVIII was emblematic of a 2023 NFL season in which kickoff returns were largely phased out of the game.

Not a single kickoff was returned between the Chiefs and the 49ers, making it the first Super Bowl without any kickoff returns.

It’s not that there weren’t opportunities: There were a total of 13 kickoffs in the game. But all 13 of the went for touchbacks.

NFL rules have increasingly incentivized touchbacks, as the league has changed rules to minimize the number of full-speed collisions players have on kickoff returns. A Super Bowl with 13 kickoffs and zero kickoff returns is the natural consequence of NFL rule changes in recent years.

[Mad Max]

bro, there is so much wrong in this post...

First of all the bills wouldn't have had anywhere near the problems scoring on the 49ers the chiefs had (conversely the 49ers probably score on use a lot too). Lets not forget the bills were the only team to score more then 2 tds against that chiefs defense, and had JA not been hit on that 2nd down pass we would have had 4...

I've watched JA perform at or higher then Mahomes in various games, and still lose thanks to our flaccid defense which folds under pressure time after time. Does anyone believe that had we scored a TD on that last drive against KC that mahomes doesn't drive the field to win on a TD anyway?

All i got from watching that game last night is how far away our defense is from being superbowl quality. I don't come away thinking we had the wrong guy under center, as i've seen JA perform far better than both those guys last night.
I saw a pretty dominant defense early in the season prior to the onslaught of injuries. I think McDermott knows what he’s doing on that side of the ball…we just need a couple of pieces and luck with health at seasons end in that side of the ball.

[Mad Max]

Then there's Butker, who just erased another Bill from the record books.

HTF does Carolina let him walk?

He’s arguably the real MVP. It took a record 57 yarder to get them to OT.

I hate the kicker position, but it’s value is proven time and time again…I hope Beane realizes this and upgrades Bass.

[Mad Max]

Yeah. Andy Reid

You forgot the other Hall of Famer. Kelce.

and we can throw in the Cheetah into the mix for their first Lombardi…the cupboards have always been overflowing during this run.

[Typ0]

He’s arguably the real MVP. It took a record 57 yarder to get them to OT.

I hate the kicker position, but it’s value is proven time and time again…I hope Beane realizes this and upgrades Bass.

He realized it last season and signed Bass through 2027 ...

[Woodman]

He’s arguably the real MVP. It took a record 57 yarder to get them to OT.

I hate the kicker position, but it’s value is proven time and time again…I hope Beane realizes this and upgrades Bass.

The punter ain't bad either.

[Woodman]

The biggest mistake the 49ers made was to receive in OT.

[sahlensguy]

The biggest mistake the 49ers made was to receive in OT.

I don't know if it really mattered in the end or not but it sure put a lot of pressure on Purdy. He had, had to score on the first possession. That's a big ask for the kid.

[Woodman]

I don't know if it really mattered in the end or not but it sure put a lot of pressure on Purdy. He had, had to score on the first possession. That's a big ask for the kid.

It just made it that much easier for the Chiefs is all.

[sahlensguy]

It just made it that much easier for the Chiefs is all.

Why easier?

[Woodman]

Why easier?

They have 4 downs if need be ...... much much easier to attack knowing you have 4 plays if need be rather than 3 and punting if appropriate ..... just much easier to call the plays in that type of situation.


They changed the rules for OT this year.

The 49ers this morning are admitting they did not know the new rules ..... they had to defer.

Under the rules format for the 1st 57 games you might prefer the ball ..... because back then if you score the TD the game is over.


Like what happened to us recently ..... 13 second game.

[notacon]

Where is EMBED in YouTube.

I can copy a link in YouTube.

When I come back to here I can’t embed.

I paste and it does not embed.

Historian says to click the icon on the left but when I place my cursor where I want to place the YouTube video, the hilite of the icon goes off.


"embed" is accessed with the "share" option. I circled it in the image I posted above (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/265090-Super-Bowl-LVIII-Game-Thread-%E2%80%94-Swiftie-Approved?p=5082941&viewfull=1#post5082941).

You have to be signed into an account. You do not need YouTube Premium. Any free account will do.

[notacon]

It’s over for the over bettors

I keep on stressing two overriding realities....

1. It's NOT over until it's over.

2. Betting on football games is stupid.

The "over" bet won!!!

[Woodman]

I keep on stressing two overriding realities....

1. It's NOT over until it's over.

2. Betting on football games is stupid.

The "over" bet won!!!

Over/Under was 47.5 if you bet over you lost.

Under/Over usually is halted after regulation so it really wasn't close.

But it's still under including the overtime points.

[Woodman]

Then there's Butker, who just erased another Bill from the record books.

HTF does Carolina let him walk?

How do the Titans allow AJ Brown to walk??????

[notacon]

Once again, THE reason KC keeps on wining is PATRICK MAHOMES!!!!!

Yeah...Andy Reid is a good coach. But he did NOT start winning Super Bowls until he had PATRICK MAHOMES!!!

The facts are undeniable (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/264044-Is-Josh-Allen-the-very-normal-simple-to-please-man-we-think-he-is?p=5051528&viewfull=1#post5051528). Andy Reid was HC coach for TWENTY ONE YEARS until he saw true success. The difference??? PATRICK MAHOMES!!!!

As usual, KC enjoys the **** ups of the other team (while their **** ups are not nearly as bad, or like the terrible INT Mahomes threw, the other team fails to take advantage)...this game hinged on a lucky break with a punted ball hitting an unsuspecting San Fran player.

Then their kicker mises a ****ING EXTRA POINT!!!!!

But, when the rubber hits the road, Purdy HAD HIS CHANCE for greatness in OT. The result....he went 6/4 in OT (the seventh INCOMPLETION was saved by a defensive holding call). Got to the KC NINE YARD LINE, but could not get it in.

Mahomes in OT.....EIGHT FOR EIGHT for 42 yards....two runs for 21 yards including the 4th down run that saved the game.

That's SIXTY THREE of the 75 yards in the wining TD drive.

[notacon]

Over/Under was 47.5 if you bet over you lost.

Under/Over usually is halted after regulation so it really wasn't close.

But it's still under including the overtime points.


Super Bowl overtime delivers big swing for betting public
(https://www.espn.com/espn/betting/story/_/id/39510170/super-bowl-delivers-big-swing-betting-public)

As kickoff approached Sunday, sportsbooks were almost unanimously rooting for the favored San Francisco 49ers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers) to win in a low-scoring Super Bowl.

Late in the fourth quarter, everything was going the books' way. Then, the game went into overtime.

The underdog Kansas City Chiefs (https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs) rallied from behind in overtime to pull out a 25-22 win (https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401547378/49ers-chiefs) behind another Super Bowl MVP performance from quarterback Patrick Mahomes (https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3139477/patrick-mahomes), resulting in a big swing in favor of the betting public.

The Chiefs covered the spread as 2-point underdogs, and the game went over the consensus closing total of 46.5. Both were good results for the betting public, as was overtime.

[Woodman]

That under /over that you post is incorrect on every Vegas site for almost 2 weeks it was 47 and went up to 47.5 right in the last couple days.

The Chiefs had over 70% of the betting pool so the cover was just a bonus.

Under/Over in Vegas ends after regulation.

[Typ0]

Over/Under is the final score. Since when does OT not count?

[Woodman]

Over/Under is the final score. Since when does OT not count?

Back in the day ...... I have retired so the number thing has probably changed. (1980's)

However the O/U was never 46.5 .... I watched it all week.

There's a thread on it.

If you bet over in Vegas you lost.

[Woodman]

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Historical Super Bowl Spreads, Over/Unders & Betting Results (https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/historical-super-bowl-spreads-totals-betting-results/)

[Mace]

I don't know if it really mattered in the end or not but it sure put a lot of pressure on Purdy. He had, had to score on the first possession. That's a big ask for the kid.

Dunno.....Purdy would have had a lot more pressure if KC scored, and you know they would have. Shanahan's explanation made sense to me, they meant to score and be able to respond if KC matched it. Had KC scored 7, the pressure on Purdy to respond with 7 would have been brutal.

No gripes with Purdy. This was his first sip of the big game. and he's come a long way.

Chiefs have done this before and have a mindset you only get when you've been to the top of the mountain multiple times and mean to get there again. People snark at Mahomes, but Mahomes is clutch and focused when it comes down to the moment.

[Typ0]

Back in the day ...... I have retired so the number thing has probably changed. (1980's)

However the O/U was never 46.5 .... I watched it all week.

There's a thread on it.

If you bet over in Vegas you lost.

No. I am saying the total is the final total. It always is. Every sport. OT counts.

[Typ0]

New Bills Mafia excuse for losing: Patrick Mahomes is too good.

All you clowns do realize we traded Mahomes away the year prior to drafting Allen right?

[sukie]

Mahomes would still be seeking a Super Bowl if he was in Buffalo

[Woodman]

No. I am saying the total is the final total. It always is. Every sport. OT counts.
All I'm saying is 44 years ago when I participated it was not.

Same held true in Basketball and Baseball wagers.

No OT or Extra innings because you don't know how long a Baseball game can go and a Basketball game also always had the potential to go into additional OT's.

Pro Basketball O/U is set to 48 minutes.

MLBaseball O/U is set to 9 innings.

[Mad Max]

He realized it last season and signed Bass through 2027 ...
His salary is nothing more than a rounding error compared to the totality of the cap. They need to upgrade the position.

[Mace]

New Bills Mafia excuse for losing: Patrick Mahomes is too good.

All you clowns do realize we traded Mahomes away the year prior to drafting Allen right?

It's not even that, it's that their program and coaching has been better. They have a better "process" and keep proving it.

[Woodman]

Maybe we should hire Eric Bieniemy?

[Mad Max]

Maybe we should hire Eric Bieniemy?

When and as what? OC or HC?

We got both Mcd and Brady for at least one more season.

[Woodman]

When and as what? OC or HC?

We got both Mcd and Brady for at least one more season.

Special assistant to the office of the President of operations.

He could help oversee the draft and get us what we need to win it all.

[notacon]

I don't know if it really mattered in the end or not but it sure put a lot of pressure on Purdy. He had, had to score on the first possession. That's a big ask for the kid.


Dunno.....Purdy would have had a lot more pressure if KC scored, and you know they would have. Shanahan's explanation made sense to me, they meant to score and be able to respond if KC matched it. Had KC scored 7, the pressure on Purdy to respond with 7 would have been brutal.

No gripes with Purdy. This was his first sip of the big game. and he's come a long way.

Chiefs have done this before and have a mindset you only get when you've been to the top of the mountain multiple times and mean to get there again. People snark at Mahomes, but Mahomes is clutch and focused when it comes down to the moment.

The decision by Shanahan to take the ball in OT after winning the coin toss was STUPID BEYOND MEASURE!!!!

Not necessarily because it put pressure on the young QB, it simply helped KC in a HUGE way.

First of all, you risk having a three and out and handing the ball over to KC with only a FG to win it. MUCH better to put pressure on KC to avoid that.

Second, for his explanation that he was playing for the "third possession" only makes sense if you can GUARANTEE to score a TD. If you don't....we all saw what happened, and I suspect that everyone (not a 49ers fan) KNEW as soon as they settled for a FG, and handed the ball to Mahomes, their fate was sealed. (In retrospect, they would have been better off going for the first down, and giving the ball to KC inside their own 9 if they did not make it)

Third, if they defer, it allows their defense (which did a credible job in slowing down Mahomes most of the game) to either a FG or to punt....then meaning a FG wins it.

Fourth, San Fran handed KC an extra down, as in they had no tough decision whether go for it or not o 4th down when outside FG range (remember, the 4th down they did go for was at their own 34).

Fifth, they TOOK AWAY a down from their offense. For example, when SanFran was driving, and it went to 3rd and 4 at the KC ****ing NINE YARDS LINE....if they deferred and KC scored a TD, there would be no question...go for the 1st down or TD.

Basically, they tied their own hands because they did not know what it would take to win the game.

They handed KC a security blanket in that they knew EXACTLY what it would take to win....with a FG in their back pocket to tie and extend IF THEY HAD TO!!!

Shanahan screwed the pooch on that one. Chris Jones was spot on saying that decision was "crazy" (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chris-jones-on-49ers-decision-to-take-ball-in-overtime-theyre-crazy).

[Woodman]

Mahomes would still be seeking a Super Bowl if he was in Buffalo

Jones and Sneed won the games.

#95 and # 38 Chiefs defense.

[Woodman]

The decision by Shanahan to take the ball in OT after winning the coin toss was STUPID BEYOND MEASURE!!!!

Chris Jones was spot on saying that decision was "crazy" (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/chris-jones-on-49ers-decision-to-take-ball-in-overtime-theyre-crazy).

I've mentioned this a few times.

[Woodman]

It's not even that, it's that their program and coaching has been better. They have a better "process" and keep proving it.

Their defense managed to stay healthy.

Give we Jones and Sneed #95 and #38 Chiefs defense.

Welcome to free agency fellas.