Von renegotiated

[YardRat]

Saves about $8mil per reports

[Skooby]

Saves about $8mil per reports

This is great news, Von wants to win.

[Novacane]

Paycut?

[Novacane]

restructure Josh and they'll be about 10 million under.

[Ginger Vitis]

It's a payout.. not a restructure

[Ed]

@FieldYates
The Bills and pass rusher Von Miller agreed to a renegotiated contract, per source.

The deal has a base value of $8.855M in 2024, with the chance to make up to $20M with incentives (up from $17.5M under the old terms).

The move saves Buffalo $8.645M in 2024 salary cap space.

[Novacane]

It's a payout.. not a restructure



Do you mean pay cut? Never heard of a pay out. ?

[Ginger Vitis]

Do you mean pay cut? Never heard of a pay out. ?

Paycut

[mightysimi]

I think they just shifted a bunch of money into the not likely to be earned incentive category which doesn't count against the cap. Based on last years stats, you could probably have it super low like 2 sacks or 7 tackles or something. I think then any incentives earned, go on next years cap. It is a way to save now without having to tie us to Von further down the line.

[sukie]

I think they just shifted a bunch of money into the not likely to be earned incentive category which doesn't count against the cap. Based on last years stats, you could probably have it super low like 2 sacks or 7 tackles or something. I think then any incentives earned, go on next years cap. It is a way to save now without having to tie us to Von further down the line.

let’s just hope we collectively want to be tied to Von further down

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Breakdown

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rapsheet</a>&#39;s report here, Von Miller&#39;s 2024 cap hit has been reduced from $23,784,000 down to $15,139,000. $5.25M of his incentives appear likely to be earned in 2024, &amp; the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> can free up almost $5M of cap by moving on after the upcoming season. <a href="https://t.co/q6CBks0ldG">https://t.co/q6CBks0ldG</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZChLtEYpgE">pic.twitter.com/ZChLtEYpgE</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1765528326032982395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Canadian'eh!]

I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.

[DraftBoy]

I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.

Good point. I wonder if they added void years.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I want to know how much this will hurt us in future years.Some fine print on Von's original contract:


$45M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2022 salary + 2023 salary + 2023 roster bonus + $10.71M of 2024 salary)
<s style="box-sizing: border-box;">Remaining $6.435M of 2024 salary fully guarantees 03/18/2024</s>

So basically if we don't cut him - which we all know we can't realistically, in 4 days, Von's base salary for 2024 (10.71 + 6.435M) are guaranteed.

The renegotiation is take that literally guaranteed 17.145M 2024 salary into 1) a 7M signing bonus (so all paid now), 2) a 1.5M salary (will be paid in season but I'd have to believe the guarantee clause stands), 3) 8.645M reachable incentives (something like games played, tackles made, sacks) and 4) around 2.855M hard to reach inventives (something like NFL MVP, superbowl MVP, voted to Pro Bowl etc.).

Into his pocket this year 7+1.5 for sure and likely additional 5.25 from the 8.45 incentive for a total 13.75 in 2024 vs 17.145 if nothing happened.

For the Bills, this year from Miller, the cap will be 7/4 + 1.5 + 5.25 for a total of 8.5M. The total cap saving is 17.145 - 8.5 = 8.645M this year. The Bills added 1.75M cap hit for each of the next 3 years of Von's contract.

[sukie]

My head hurts

[Woodman]

Hopefully he plays his greatest season and retires immediately afterwards.

[DetoxTent]

Paycut?

I believe they moved salary to bonus payout.

[OpIv37]

If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.

If it’s just converting some of his salary to unlikely to be achieved incentives that don’t count against the cap, that’s fine.

Of course, this begs the question: the Bills will be right up against the cap this year. What happens if multiple players make incentives that put them over the cap? Seems like a fair penalty would be that the overage amount is subtracted from next year’s cap but I don’t know what the actual rule is.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.


The key word from Rapoport is re-worked, not extension. Von's original deal is 6 years. He has 4 years remaining. The new 7M signing bonus is spread over the remaining 4 years.

[notacon]

Paycut?


For all intents and purposes it is a pay cut. Smart move by both the Bills and Von.

[Novacane]

They gave him a wink wink that they'll give him a nice bonus when they hire him as assistant GM after he retires.

[Turf]

Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?

[Forward_Lateral]

Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?
Yes.

[Mace]

Had we not signed Von would we have lost all these players?

A few....but we'd also be keeping the more effective Floyd and the more useful Epenesa. Miller was a desperation luxury signing meant to frost an unbaked cake. You can't throw money at guys expecting them to reach their prime stats years after their prime imho but McBeane loves them some vets.

Didn't work. If they keep doing it....I will go nuts. This many years into a program you need a draft pipeline of young guys pushing starters not yearly bandaids.

[Historian]

Miller was a desperation luxury signing meant to frost an unbaked cake.

No it wasn't.

You can't look at the move through a 2024 lens.

The entire football world thought we were 13 seconds away from winning the whole ball of wax, so they brought in a proven closer.

The cake was already baked and cooled.

They just bought the wrong flavor frosting.

https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/Betty-Crocker-Lemon-Frosting-453g-Yellow_ff44e3cf-dff3-40db-ae11-fd00ea0d6062.0b533b3ca02ad375075e52d7cef6a72f.jpeg?odnHeight=117&odnWidth=117&odnBg=FFFFFF

[YardRat]

If this extends the number of years that his salary counts against the cap, **** that.

If it’s just converting some of his salary to unlikely to be achieved incentives that don’t count against the cap, that’s fine.

Of course, this begs the question: the Bills will be right up against the cap this year. What happens if multiple players make incentives that put them over the cap? Seems like a fair penalty would be that the overage amount is subtracted from next year’s cap but I don’t know what the actual rule is.

The unlikely incentives, if earned, get applied against the following year's cap, so yes it's kind of a 'penalty'.

[YardRat]

Rumor, with an emphasis on rumor...somebody with a podcast (Rosenthal?) is claiming Von was willing to renegotiate because he already knows he's being suspended.