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Woodman
03-16-2024, 01:59 PM
Four years after trading for Stefon Diggs, how long will the Bills keep him? - NBC Sports (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/four-years-after-trading-for-stefon-diggs-how-long-will-the-bills-keep-him)

Diggs, who has a history of social-media activity that is sufficiently vague to give him plausible deniability, posted this on X: “Ready for w[h]atever (https://x.com/stefondiggs/status/1768707262699180467?s=20).” He also changed the photo at the top of his X page to a picture of himself waving goodbye.

The relationship between Diggs and the Bills has been strained, at times. It came to a boil last June, when he was asked to leave the building on the first day of mandatory minicamp — and when the team initially created the impression that he walked out without permission. Things got back under control and stayed there for the 2023 season, but Diggs got the ball less and less as the year went on.

His most recent 100-yard game happened on October 15. He had 10 catches for 73 yards in two playoff games. It’s reaching a point where it arguably doesn’t make sense for the Bills to continue the relationship. It also could be reaching a point at which Diggs wants to move on.

Woodman
03-16-2024, 02:01 PM
When he decided to leave Minnesota (coincidentally, or not, on the same day Kirk Cousins got an extension), Diggs took to Twitter and managed to provoke a trade. Could he do it now?

Right now, probably not. After June 1, possibly.

His $18.5 million salary for 2024 becomes fully guaranteed this weekend. He has a 2024 cap number of $27.854 million. Trading him before June 1 would trigger a cap charge of $31.096 million.

The Bills could cut him before the salary becomes guaranteed. If they do it with a post-June 1 designation, the Bills would take a cap charge of $8.849 million this year and $22.247 million in 2025. But, obviously, they’d get nothing for him.

Canadian'eh!
03-16-2024, 02:58 PM
There’s a lot of speculation to some very basic and meaningless tweets. The media loves to create stories. Some of the Caleb Williams hate is based on completely made up crap.

this is nothing serious.

Woodman
03-16-2024, 03:01 PM
The dilemma is clear. Do they allow his salary to become fully guaranteed now and trade him later? Do they trade him now? Who would take on his salary and give up the compensation?

Regardless, the Bills have a decision to make this weekend. Trade him before the salary becomes guaranteed, cut him before it becomes guaranteed, let it become guaranteed and trade him after June 1, or let it become guaranteed (possibly with a restructuring to reduce his cap number) and keep him for another year.

TacklingDummy
03-16-2024, 03:14 PM
Diggs isn't going anywhere for another year or 2.

Novacane
03-16-2024, 03:14 PM
Based on him being the one big contract they didn't restructure I think this coming season will be his last in Buffalo. They don't want to push anymore money into the future. Get what they can get out of him this season then move on. I agree a lot of this is just BS media speculation but I think there's enough smoke to assume there's some fire there too.

sukie
03-16-2024, 03:17 PM
I thought dead cap would be brutal this season .

Novacane
03-16-2024, 03:17 PM
I predict he's a 6/1 cut next offseason.

Novacane
03-16-2024, 03:21 PM
I thought dead cap would be brutal this season .

31 million but that's only 2.3 million more than his current cap hit. Maybe he's a big enough pain that it's worth taking the hit this year. The fact that they haven't restructured him says a lot IMO. If they planned to keep him past this year they'd of restructured him.

OpIv37
03-16-2024, 03:46 PM
I thought dead cap would be brutal this season .

There’s no dead cap if they trade him but it’s unlikely that anyone will want his cap hit.

Ginger Vitis
03-16-2024, 03:52 PM
There’s no dead cap if they trade him but it’s unlikely that anyone will want his cap hit.

Yes the bills will have to absorb Diggs dead cap if he is traded either before June 1 or after June 1.. and a team that trades for Diggs doesn't take on his cap hit... they take on his base salary

Canadian'eh!
03-16-2024, 03:53 PM
There’s no dead cap if they trade him but it’s unlikely that anyone will want his cap hit.
This is incorrect.

YardRat
03-16-2024, 04:00 PM
Diggs will not be satisfied until Josh gets his head out of his ass and the team is playing for a championship. Good for him, I feel the same.

Canadian'eh!
03-16-2024, 04:12 PM
Diggs will not be satisfied until Josh gets his head out of his ass and the team is playing for a championship. Good for him, I feel the same.


Maybe Stefon should worry about not dropping passes vs KC then?

Forward_Lateral
03-16-2024, 04:26 PM
After June 1st

Unless some dumb team offers a 1st

Mace
03-16-2024, 05:11 PM
He said the fo and teammates know where he stands.... believe him.

Think he's playing with the media.

Will be here or not, is what it is. Would be great if they actually use him a whole season. He is one of the few actually rabid about winning as his main priority and not all happy with it will be fine sooner or later.

No gripes with diggs. His eyes are on the prize....not oh we will be fine in a game or three.

jamze132
03-16-2024, 07:24 PM
I have no concerns about Diggs. And I doubt he’s having a hard time with all the money he’s making.

Woodman
03-16-2024, 08:23 PM
There’s no dead cap if they trade him but it’s unlikely that anyone will want his cap hit.
The Bears are getting their QB's for free these days 1st pick overall .... maybe?

Fields is gone there is an opening.

We could trade Diggs for a 3rd this year and a 5th next.

They take his contract.

Woodman
03-16-2024, 08:26 PM
After June 1st

Unless some dumb team offers a 1st

I'd take the Bears 2nd or 3rd this year and 4th or 5th next year for Diggs.

They have the cheapest QB ...... rookie contract with the 1st overall staring them in the face.

Field's is gone there's an opening.

Forward_Lateral
03-16-2024, 09:38 PM
There’s no dead cap if they trade him but it’s unlikely that anyone will want his cap hit.

That’s not how it works, unfortunately.

OpIv37
03-16-2024, 10:13 PM
Apparently I misunderstood the cap rules.

Any trade would have to be very lucrative if we lose a player of his caliber AND have to eat dead cap when we are already hurting for cap room.

Woodman
03-17-2024, 07:32 AM
Apparently I misunderstood the cap rules.

Any trade would have to be very lucrative if we lose a player of his caliber AND have to eat dead cap when we are already hurting for cap room.

sucks right?

Woodman
03-17-2024, 07:34 AM
Diggs isn't going anywhere for another year or 2.

my dream is destroyed. :cry:

Woodman
03-17-2024, 07:36 AM
I predict he's a 6/1 cut next offseason.

:pray: :pray: make it so #1.

Woodman
03-17-2024, 07:38 AM
31 million but that's only 2.3 million more than his current cap hit. Maybe he's a big enough pain that it's worth taking the hit this year. The fact that they haven't restructured him says a lot IMO. If they planned to keep him past this year they'd of restructured him.

who wrote his ****ing contract???????

we need a new one.

notacon
03-17-2024, 01:52 PM
I'm curious if Diggs will have an outstanding season in 2024. I suspect it's more likely he does than not.

BuffaloBlitz83
03-17-2024, 03:36 PM
Guys such a drama queen attention seeker. Amazing that tyreek is a better team guy than diggs

Canadian'eh!
03-17-2024, 03:58 PM
Apparently I misunderstood the cap rules.

Any trade would have to be very lucrative if we lose a player of his caliber AND have to eat dead cap when we are already hurting for cap room.

Bottom line: Short of an absolute massive meltdown where they can no longer have him here, this is all media garbage. He might be unhappy, but both he and the Bills know that unless he agrees to some changes to his contract he cannot and will not be traded or cut this year.

The reason he was not restructured this year when we could have used that huge cap space? They are preserving the “out” after next season.

This whole situation has clarified some things to me:

1. Diggs was not injured and was not giving full effort the last half of the season. His double teams claim was proven false by the tape.

2. The team is stuck with him one more year, but didn’t want to restructure to get that 13mil in cap space because they wanted to ensure they still have the out after next season.

I would be shocked at a post June 1 trade (30 year old WR who stank up the last half of the season who is on a huge extension) or release.

They are married for another year

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Guys such a drama queen attention seeker. Amazing that tyreek is a better team guy than diggs

Unless that team is his wife

OpIv37
03-17-2024, 04:07 PM
Bottom line: Short of an absolute massive meltdown where they can no longer have him here, this is all media garbage. He might be unhappy, but both he and the Bills know that unless he agrees to some changes to his contract he cannot and will not be traded or cut this year.

The reason he was not restructured this year when we could have used that huge cap space? They are preserving the “out” after next season.

This whole situation has clarified some things to me:

1. Diggs was not injured and was not giving full effort the last half of the season. His double teams claim was proven false by the tape.

2. The team is stuck with him one more year, but didn’t want to restructure to get that 13mil in cap space because they wanted to ensure they still have the out after next season.

I would be shocked at a post June 1 trade (30 year old WR who stank up the last half of the season who is on a huge extension) or release.

They are married for another year

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Unless that team is his wife
Thing is, what’s he unhappy about? If he gets traded, the money is the same and none of the teams that are better than us can afford him. If he gets cut, no one is gonna pay him what we are so it’ll be less money. In terms of both winning and getting paid, Buffalo is the best place for him right now.

Forward_Lateral
03-17-2024, 06:32 PM
OPI, I think that his base salary goes to the team he’s traded to, but because the Bills restructured him already that’s where the dead cap comes in, regardless. Something like that. If they wait until after June 1 to cut or trade him, his cap hit this year is like 2 million, and pushes all that dead cap to next year

justasportsfan
03-17-2024, 07:41 PM
This looks to me like his last year. They will draft his replacement.

BuffaloBlitz83
03-17-2024, 07:46 PM
Thing is, what’s he unhappy about? If he gets traded, the money is the same and none of the teams that are better than us can afford him. If he gets cut, no one is gonna pay him what we are so it’ll be less money. In terms of both winning and getting paid, Buffalo is the best place for him right now.

I think he wanted Bill's to extend him and restructure his deal again to backload. He's mad this will be his last big contract because In 2 years his value will be much different

Woodman
03-17-2024, 08:40 PM
This looks to me like his last year. They will draft his replacement.
Agree.

Woodman
03-17-2024, 08:44 PM
I think he wanted Bill's to extend him and restructure his deal again to backload. He's mad this will be his last big contract because In 2 years his value will be much different

He has every incentive for a very productive 2024.

Woodman
03-17-2024, 08:45 PM
I'm curious if Diggs will have an outstanding season in 2024. I suspect it's more likely he does than not.

All signs point to yes.

Ingtar33
03-18-2024, 12:42 AM
Diggs will not be satisfied until Josh gets his head out of his ass and the team is playing for a championship. Good for him, I feel the same.

listen man I love diggs's fire and competitiveness, but I clearly remember Diggs dropping a perfectly thrown bomb to him that hit him in the hands in stride which probably should have gone for a 60+ yard touchdown.

Diggs' problem in Minn was Cousins and the coach not taking football seriously enough. He felt both were happy to be mediocre and didn't work hard in practice (in cousin's case) and didn't push the team hard (in the coach's case)

Historian
03-18-2024, 03:59 AM
Truth be told, he has been catching short passes, and taking a dive to avoid the hit for two years now.

The thing is, he always made the catch.

Last year, he had a few drops as he "heard the footsteps".

Should be an interesting year.

jamze132
03-18-2024, 04:27 AM
Dogs helped Josh as much as Josh helped Diggs. They made a pretty formidable duo for which I’ll be forever grateful.

I honestly think the media is blowing this out of proportion, like every offseason.

But for argument’s sake, if you’re Diggs, where do you think you’ll go to have a legitimate chance at a ring? KC, SF? They’re not paying WR vets what you’re making. Cincinnati? Baltimore? Nope.

Buffalo is the place in the AFC that gives you the best POSSIBLE chance for a ring. No one outside SF or Philadelphia in the NFC would provide that.

Forward_Lateral
03-18-2024, 06:48 AM
Here's how releasing or trading Diggs breaks down, for all of those wondering

If they release him before June 1st, his cap hit goes from 27.8 to 49.5---This isn't happening

If they release him after June 1st, it basically stays the same

If they trade him before June 1st, it goes from 27.8 to 31--They eat 4 more million, which isn't as bad as I originally thought

If they wait and trade him after June 1st, it goes from 27.8 to 8.8--A savings of roughly 19 million.

Ingtar33
03-18-2024, 07:15 AM
who wrote his ****ing contract???????

we need a new one.

actually it was the restructuring last year that made it impossible to move off him till like 2026 (it's possible to move off him next year, but it's unlikely we'll do it because the dead cap will make the move barely beneficial)

imbondz
03-18-2024, 08:57 AM
Still love Diggs. Hope he finishes his career here but that’s a pipe dream.

Woodman
03-18-2024, 09:44 AM
actually it was the restructuring last year that made it impossible to move off him till like 2026 (it's possible to move off him next year, but it's unlikely we'll do it because the dead cap will make the move barely beneficial)
Should have went elsewhere for the cap space ..... poor judgement was used.

There's too much noise around him ......... one way or the other we'll move on after this year.