What would you trade the 28th pick for?

[Woodman]

I would move back for the following offer.

Houston doesn't have a first-round pick after trading No. 23 overall in a deal with the Minnesota Vikings last month.

But the Texans do have three selections on Day 2: Nos. 42, 59 and 86.

I would take #42, 59 and 86.

What would you accept to trade down?

[Novacane]

# 28 is 660 points. Those picks equal 950 points. Yes, I'd make that trade.

[Woodman]

# 28 is 660 points. Those picks equal 950 points. Yes, I'd make that trade.

Maybe we through in a 6th and 7th :idunno: :cheers:

[Woodman]

Nova what would be the value be for these picks?

#28=660 points

#42,59 and 123=???

drop pick 86 out of the equation.

[Woodman]

Found the chart.

#42=480 .... 2nd rounder
#86=160 ..... 3rd rounder
#123=49 ..... 4th rounder

For a total of 689.

#28=660 ..... 1st rounder

[Jeff1220]

Depends on who is available at 28. Maybe a the right player and a pick in the trade would be interesting.

[Woodman]

Depends on who is available at 28. Maybe a the right player and a pick in the trade would be interesting.
That could well be how it all shakes out.

[Goobylal]

A Klondike bar.

[Woodman]

2024 NFL Trade Value Chart (https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp)

[Goobylal]

Many are saying there are only about 150 draft-worthy players. Then again, with the need for a WR and many teams likely taking one in the first round and early part of the 2nd, do you want to drop down that far and miss out on a good one?

[Woodman]

Many are saying there are only about 150 draft-worthy players. Then again, with the need for a WR and many teams likely taking one in the first round and early part of the 2nd, do you want to drop down that far and miss out on a good one?

If for instance the top 5 WR's are gone well before the pick at 28 it may be smarter to drop back.

That is why the thread was created ....... it's all about availability.

Another question might be .... what are you willing to give up to move up?

[Bill Cody]

If there's what we feel is a future #1 receiver available at 28 then...nah

[Goobylal]

If for instance the top 5 WR's are gone well before the pick at 28 it may be smarter to drop back.

That is why the thread was created ....... it's all about availability.

Another question might be .... what are you willing to give up to move up?

It's highly unlikey all the top WRs are gone by 28. And I'd consider trading next year's 2nd rounder to move up if someone coveted falls to that spot. That can get them to #17 overall (Jax).

[Woodman]

It's highly unlikey all the top WRs are gone by 28. And I'd consider trading next year's 2nd rounder to move up if someone coveted falls to that spot. That can get them to #17 overall (Jax).

That is a possibility.

[Woodman]

If there's what we feel is a future #1 receiver available at 28 then...nah

I'm sure they'll pull the trigger on that scenario if it presents itself.

I wonder how many they see as "the guy" maybe just the top 3.

If that's the case trading back becomes more of a possibility.

Tier 1 would be .... Harrison, Odunze and Nabers.

To get one of those guys would be very expensive.

[kgun12]

I would move back for the following offer.

Houston doesn't have a first-round pick after trading No. 23 overall in a deal with the Minnesota Vikings last month.

But the Texans do have three selections on Day 2: Nos. 42, 59 and 86.

I would take #42, 59 and 86.

What would you accept to trade down?




I would try to do something like this and throw in whatever 4, 5, or 6 combination to equal the numbers.

[notacon]

The question is a little silly since none of us are in the position to decide what we would trade #28 for. So the idea of "what would you trade the 28th pick for" is moot. Just sayin'


I think the chances of Beane trading down from #28 is between slim and none.

I'm with Gooby....


It's highly unlikey all the top WRs are gone by 28. And I'd consider trading next year's 2nd rounder to move up if someone coveted falls to that spot. That can get them to #17 overall (Jax).
It's doubtful that "the top 5 WR's are gone well before the pick at 28 ".

If the Bills have their eye on either Brian Thomas or Adonai Mitchell (which I think they do), they may have to move up to get him. We won't know if or how much until next week.

[Woodman]

I would try to do something like this and throw in whatever 4, 5, or 6 combination to equal the numbers.

Agreed!! :cheers:

[Woodman]

The question is a little silly since none of us are in the position to decide what we would trade #28 for. So the idea of "what would you trade the 28th pick for" is moot. Just sayin'


I think the chances of Beane trading down from #28 is between slim and none.

I'm with Gooby....


1) It's doubtful that "the top 5 WR's are gone well before the pick at 28 ".

If the Bills have their eye on either #4) WR Brian Thomas or #5 WR Adonai Mitchell (which I think they do), they may have to 2)move up to get him. We won't know if or how much until next week.



1) :scratch: :scratch:

2) I'll bet the top 4 are gone for sure maybe 5.

Mitchell might be the only one to make it to 28 and that's iffy imo..

Well which is it ??

[DetoxTent]

What would you trade the 28th pick for?



Your momma?

[DetoxTent]

It's highly unlikey all the top WRs are gone by 28. And I'd consider trading next year's 2nd rounder to move up if someone coveted falls to that spot. That can get them to #17 overall (Jax).

This is likely exactly what they were thinking when they took that offer for Diggs.

[YardRat]

If there's what we feel is a future #1 receiver available at 28 then...nah

I think we need to shelf the #1 receiver concept, IMO with Allen (if he ever takes the next step up) there shouldn't be a need for what we view as a traditional #1.

One week the #1 is going to be Kincaid. The next Shakir. Might be Cook for a half, or a rookie. Knox. It just depends on who is being left available by the defense, and Josh picking that up and getting them the ball.

We don't need a "#1", we need guys that will produce when their number is called. And some evolution from the QB.

[Goobylal]

I think we need to shelf the #1 receiver concept, IMO with Allen (if he ever takes the next step up) there shouldn't be a need for what we view as a traditional #1.

One week the #1 is going to be Kincaid. The next Shakir. Might be Cook for a half, or a rookie. Knox. It just depends on who is being left available by the defense, and Josh picking that up and getting them the ball.

We don't need a "#1", we need guys that will produce when their number is called. And some evolution from the QB.

I disagree. I’m not sure how the coaching will be. So with that in mind I’ll go the “better talent” route.

[kgun12]

I think we need to shelf the #1 receiver concept, IMO with Allen (if he ever takes the next step up) there shouldn't be a need for what we view as a traditional #1.

One week the #1 is going to be Kincaid. The next Shakir. Might be Cook for a half, or a rookie. Knox. It just depends on who is being left available by the defense, and Josh picking that up and getting them the ball.

We don't need a "#1", we need guys that will produce when their number is called. And some evolution from the QB.

I agree, I’ve been saying all along, don’t be surprised even if they move up it’s not a WR. There are plenty of quality guys they can get in the second round and beyond at a lot of the positions of need. I’d rather move back to the early second round and get more picks in the second and/or third then trade away a lot of picks for one guy.

[notacon]

It's highly unlikey all the top WRs are gone by 28. And I'd consider trading next year's 2nd rounder to move up if someone coveted falls to that spot. That can get them to #17 overall (Jax).

Dane Brugler of The Athletic, who is a monster draft guru as he publishes a HUGE guide to hundreds of prospects called The Beast (https://theathletic.com/5399690/2024/04/10/nfl-draft-2024-the-beast-dane-brugler/). The PDF is password protected only for subscribers.

He put out his second top last mock draft today (his final mock goes up the morning of Round 1). It's a full 7-round mock (https://theathletic.com/5418352/2024/04/17/nfl-mock-draft-2024-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=13460465).

Mr Brugler has the Bills trading to, like you opined, #17 to get a WR the Bill probably covet. Here are all his mock picks for the Bills...


17. Buffalo Bills (from JAX)*: Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU

(Projected trade: Bills trade picks Nos. 28, 133, 144 and a 2025 second-rounder to the Jaguars for No. 17.)

The Bills need their draft picks to remodel the roster with young, low-priced depth, but general manager Brandon Beane is an aggressive drafter and has never shied away from moving up in the first round to get his guy. Thomas is an outstanding size/speed athlete with better route-running skill than given he’s credit for, and he’d give Josh Allen a new WR1 on offense.

#60 - Cole Bishop S Utah
#128 - Javon Baker WR UCF
#160 - Beaux Limmer C/G Arkansas
#163 - Nelson Ceaser III EDGE Houston
#200 - Tyler Davis DT Clemson
#204 - Ethan Driskell OT Marshall
#248 - Kimani Vidal RB Troy


The talent at the top of this draft for WR is astounding. WAY better than last year.

In fact, I would opine that the top FOUR WR (including who Brugler mocked) Brain Thomas, are much better than any of the 2023 1st round WR's. It's not hard to imagine that the top EIGHT WR's in this year's crop are just as good or better than all the WR's of the class of 2023.

Brian Thomas would be a perfect for for the Bills. It's probably a lock that they will have to move up to get him.

Here is Brugler's analysis of him....


BACKGROUND: Brian Thomas Jr., who has a sister (Shenika), grew up in Walker (just outside of Baton Rouge). He started playing organized sports at age 6, primarily basketball and football. He played football all the way through youth sports and middle school, although many around him believed basketball would be his long-term future. Thomas starred on several travel and AAU basketball teams, including the 15U Elfrid Payton Elite (led the team to the 2018 championship). Even though Thomas played football from a young age, his father (Brian Sr.) wanted him to focus only on basketball as a freshman at Walker High School, because of Thomas’ slender size. With his high-flying dunks, Thomas was an immediate star on the basketball court and helped the team to a 38-4 record, including the 2017-18 5A state championship — the first in school history. In the title game, Thomas (20 points, eight rebounds) fueled a comeback, overtime victory and was named game MVP. He joined the football team prior to his sophomore season and started going to a trainer to help develop his frame. In his first high school game, he accounted for 278 receiving yards and three touchdowns on just four catches (69.5 yards per catch). Thomas had his most productive season as a junior with 75 receptions for 1,272 yards (17.0) and 17 touchdowns. He was named honorable mention All-State in 2019, as he led Walker to an 8-4 record. Walker played an abbreviated schedule in 2020 because of the pandemic, and Thomas finished with 32 receptions for 551 yards and nine total touchdowns. He received an invitation to the All-American Bowl and earned All-District honors three straight years. After his breakout freshman season on the basketball court, Thomas led Walker back to the title game in 2019. He surpassed 1,000 career points midway through his sophomore season and was named All-State in basketball as a junior. Thomas didn’t play basketball as a senior, but he did join the track team in 2021 and set personal bests of 11.23 seconds in the 100 meters and 22.12 in the 200.

A four-star recruit, Thomas was the No. 13 wide receiver in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 4 recruit in Louisiana. Before he’d even played a snap of high school football, he received an offer from LSU after working out at a camp on the LSU campus in June 2018. Thomas also received high-level basketball offers (Texas A&M offered him as a freshman), but he decided that football would be his future, because it was his “love” since childhood. Thomas added football offers from several other SEC programs before narrowing down his final choice to Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Texas A&M. He kept everyone in suspense until signing day, when he officially inked with his home state Tigers. Thomas was the No. 5 recruit in former head coach Ed Orgeron’s final class at LSU. He elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft.


STRENGTHS: Outstanding size/speed athlete with fluid body movements … NFL-caliber accelerator off stutter-step release to quickly eat up grass and get over the top on man corners (his favorite route is the slot fade) … comfortably finds the ball in flight and alters his body for contortionist mid-air adjustments … plays strong to the football, and his focus doesn’t diminish with bodies around him … works back to the ball and uses box-out angles like a basketball power forward … minimal delay going from catcher to runner, which is uncommon for a “big” receiver … shows natural run instincts to make the first man miss … put some impressive blocking efforts on tape (see his full-field hustle on Jayden Daniels’ long run against Florida in 2023) … his production improved each season, peaking at 1,000-plus receiving yards in 2023 (Thomas and Malik Nabers became just the third pair of LSU receivers to reach 1,000 receiving yards in the same season, joining Ja’Marr Chase/Justin Jefferson in 2019 and Odell Beckham Jr./Jarvis Landry in 2013).

WEAKNESSES: Modest figure with room to improve his bulk … play strength will be tested by more physical press corners than he faced in college … tends to lose his footing at the top of routes and needs to sharpen his breaks … a lot of crossers and verticals on tape, and his route tree needs more branches … shows great blocking effort one play, then takes his foot off the pedal the next … benefited from an all-star supporting cast, including multiple NFL receivers and a Heisman-winning QB.

SUMMARY: A three-year starter at LSU, Thomas was primarily an outside receiver in offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock’s spread scheme, working on both sides of the formation (87.2 percent of his career snaps came outside). He showed flashes his first two seasons in Baton Rouge but took his game to another level as a junior in 2023, leading the FBS in touchdown grabs (17) — the most receiving TDs by a receiver in an FBS season since DeVonta Smith’s 23 in 2020. A former basketball recruit, Thomas has unique body movements for his size (before and after the catch) with the focus and coordination to make plays above the rim. He consistently gets on top of coverage with his quick acceleration (his 1.78-second “flying 20” was the fastest at the combine), although crisper cuts and improved leverage will help him create better separation out of breaks. Overall, Thomas plays with impressive length, fluid speed and ball-winning athleticism. If his route efficiency catches up with his natural talent, he will be a dangerous weapon in the NFL. He projects as a quality NFL starter with the upside of Tee Higgins.

GRADE: 1st Round (No. 15 overall)

[Ed]

I'd be fine with moving back however many spots needed to gain a 3rd round pick. And then use some of our later round picks to move up in the 4th to target specific players. From what I've heard, this isn't a great draft to have late round picks.

[kgun12]

I'd be fine with moving back however many spots needed to gain a 3rd round pick. And then use some of our later round picks to move up in the 4th to target specific players. From what I've heard, this isn't a great draft to have late round picks.

Not really we could offer a team like Washington our 28, 128, 134, and 144 pick.
In return the Bills get their 36 & 67 picks.
That give us 2 2nds and a 3rd

[YardRat]

I really like Javon Baker.

[Woodman]

I agree, I’ve been saying all along, don’t be surprised even if they move up it’s not a WR. There are plenty of quality guys they can get in the second round and beyond at a lot of the positions of need. I’d rather move back to the early second round and get more picks in the second and/or third then trade away a lot of picks for one guy.

All day everyday.