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We don’t need a number one receiver…says Beanie Baby
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Re: We don’t need a number one receiver…says Beanie Baby
Actually, at one point in the PC, he said that you'd prefer to have 2 no 1 WRs, if you can.
All I know is that for his 1st 2 years, Josh was fair to middlin', with flashes of brilliance. He had John Brown and Beasely in 2019, but still only threw for 3000 yards, and had an offense that was 23rd in scoring. With most of the starters (skill positions), plus Diggs, the offense passed for 1000 yards more and went to 2nd in the league in scoring.
And it remained that high for the next 4 years.
I don't feel real good about saying "Josh has progressed so much that we can throw anyone out there".
This year's WR crop is very very talented and very deep, but that depth is not infinite. This isn't the year to draft, say, another pass rusher at 28 and wait until the bottom of the 2nd to draft one. All those teams supposedly drafting QB's in the 1st, teams drafting before us...will probably look at the WR pool in the 2nd. Same with those teams drafting before us who are taking other positions in the 2nd.
Much of that talent will be plucked away by the time we draft at 60.
They are in a very good position to get talent at 28, talent that they really don't have on the roster.
Beane has talked for years about finding the big play threat. Now is his chance to get it.
Re: We don’t need a number one receiver…says Beanie Baby
They don't want a guy crying for the ball every dang down. Simple as that. They are drafting a WR unless a blue-chipper falls to them in another position and they pick them. Its that simple
Actually, at one point in the PC, he said that you'd prefer to have 2 no 1 WRs, if you can.
Which I interpret as having enough talent at several positions that the "#1 WR" is going to be different guys, at different times. Kincaid could be "#1" one week...Shakir for a half...Cook for a drive...depending on what the defense is giving you.
All I know is that for his 1st 2 years, Josh was fair to middlin', with flashes of brilliance. He had John Brown and Beasely in 2019, but still only threw for 3000 yards, and had an offense that was 23rd in scoring. With most of the starters (skill positions), plus Diggs, the offense passed for 1000 yards more and went to 2nd in the league in scoring.
And it remained that high for the next 4 years.
I think some people find some encouragement in how the offense performed the last half of last season when Diggs was "absent".
I don't feel real good about saying "Josh has progressed so much that we can throw anyone out there".
Yeah me either, because he hasn't. He's stagnated the last couple (few?) years, actually. Looking through rose-colored glasses maybe in hindsight we can claim Diggs actually stunted Allen's growth to a certain extent because of his insistence on being the "#1" and the QB will finally show some more growth.
This year's WR crop is very very talented and very deep, but that depth is not infinite. This isn't the year to draft, say, another pass rusher at 28 and wait until the bottom of the 2nd to draft one. All those teams supposedly drafting QB's in the 1st, teams drafting before us...will probably look at the WR pool in the 2nd. Same with those teams drafting before us who are taking other positions in the 2nd.
Much of that talent will be plucked away by the time we draft at 60.
They are in a very good position to get talent at 28, talent that they really don't have on the roster.
Beane has talked for years about finding the big play threat. Now is his chance to get it.
I don't think anybody is claiming we couldn't use a talented receiver in the draft or we shouldn't use our first on one, IMO it's more "we don't need a guy to build the passing game around at wide receiver because we already have the QB to do that".
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