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Woodman
04-26-2024, 09:28 AM
Brandon Beane on trade with Chiefs- Didn't matter to us who they were picking - NBC Sports (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brandon-beane-on-trade-with-chiefs-didnt-matter-to-us-who-they-were-picking)

Bills fans hoping to see their team take a wide receiver at No. 28 on Thursday night might have been disappointed when they heard the team would be trading the pick and, judging from the social media reaction, they were more than disappointed by the trading partner.

The Chiefs, who have eliminated the Bills from the playoffs in three of the last four seasons, moved up from No. 32 and took speedy wide receiver Xavier Worthy to address one of their biggest needs. The upset from fans came from the playoff history, the Bills’ own need at the spot and perhaps because they remember that another draft-day trade with the Chiefs led to Patrick Mahomes’ arrival in Kansas City.

Woodman
04-26-2024, 09:31 AM
Buffalo picked up a third-round pick on Friday in the Chiefs deal and the Bills then traded out of the first round altogether while adding a fifth-rounder from the Panthers, which Bills General Manager Brandon Beane said was more significant to the team than anything the Chiefs were planning at No. 28.

“I could see them taking a receiver (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/04/buffalo-bills-gm-explains-thinking-behind-controversial-trade-with-rival-chiefs.html) but you don’t truly know. . . . But where they were moving from, I don’t think it mattered to us who they were picking,” Beane said, via Matt Parrino of NewYorkUpstate.com. “Now we’ve got the two 2s, a 3, a 4 and four 5s. I think that gives us a chance to fill some roles or use ammo to move around again, depending on how the board falls.”

The Bills have the first pick of the second round, which gives them plenty of targets (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/best-players-available-in-round-2-include-cooper-dejean-kool-aid-mckinstry) to choose from and also offers the possibility of another trade with a team that spent Thursday night talking themselves into the need to move up for their chosen player.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 09:38 AM
Let's go!!

kgun12
04-26-2024, 09:40 AM
Love this!!!

“Now we’ve got the two 2s, a 3, a 4 and four 5s. I think that gives us a chance to fill some roles or use ammo to move around again, depending on how the board falls.“

Historian
04-26-2024, 09:49 AM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 09:50 AM
I'm proud of him today.

Thought he tipped him hand pre draft by devaluing the first round talent. I mean, if he wanted to trade back, shouldn't he have built up the value of his pick?

But it didn't matter, and then he found a partner and traded back again. Now he has assets to trade up for the player(s) he wants in rounds that are much less costly to do so.

Well played.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 09:55 AM
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Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

My dude...

No

Forward_Lateral
04-26-2024, 10:07 AM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?
NO.

Years of Ralph Wilson has scarred you my friend

kgun12
04-26-2024, 10:25 AM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

If money was the issue there’s no way Pegs lets Bean get rid of Diggs and all that dead cap, no matter how bad he was destroying the locker room.

Thurmal
04-26-2024, 10:29 AM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

I figured it was a strategy based on our cap situation, but I believe that the team's ownership is much more precarious than most fans want to admit.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 10:48 AM
I figured it was a strategy based on our cap situation, but I believe that the team's ownership is much more precarious than most fans want to admit.
Those poor billionaires.

mightysimi
04-26-2024, 11:41 AM
The difference isn't very much from 28-33 in salary:



No. 28: $13.54 million (Spotrac) | $13.79 million (Over The Cap)
No. 33: $9.92 million (Spotrac) | $10.07 million (Over The Cap)


If 3M is going to sink Pegula, the whole team will be up for sale soon.

Thurmal
04-26-2024, 12:59 PM
Those poor billionaires.
This tired comment has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 01:10 PM
This tired comment has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

Ok, why do you believe the team's ownership is so precarious?

Teams don't get sold very often because of affordability issues.

notacon
04-26-2024, 01:18 PM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

In my opinion...NO CHANCE!!!!

Pegula may be a greedy billionaire, but he has shown that he leaves the football decisions to the guys he trusts....Beane and McD.

Besides the fact that the difference in pay between 1st and 2nd round is minimal.

According to Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/04/25/nfl-draft-heres-how-much-first-round-picks-will-make-in-rookie-contracts/?sh=22ce31cb649e), in 2023...


The top five picks in the draft can expect to make over $30 million in their rookie deals, according to Spotrac, with an estimated $36.8 million for the second overall pick and over $32.3 million for the fifth overall selection.

The next six picks in the draft (No. 6 through No. 11) are estimated to rake in over $20 million each in their rookie contracts, while lower picks in the first round are expected to land deals north of $12 million.

Second-round picks will make slightly less, according to Spotrac, which estimates the first pick of the second round will pull in just under $10 million in their rookie deal, while the last selection of that round is estimated to land a deal around $6.3 million.

Woodman
04-26-2024, 01:32 PM
Process boys process. :D

Woodman
04-26-2024, 01:34 PM
The top tier were gone .... so we knew it would be a WR but didn't care enough to make the pick ourselves adding the 3rd was smart and the 2nd trade down was maybe better .... Trust Beane he's calling the shots.
I bet he's sitting on at least 3 really nice offers for the 33rd pick right now .... maybe more.

Mad Max
04-26-2024, 03:05 PM
Just spitballing here....but could it possibly be that Pegula intervened?

Think about it for a second.

The cost overruns on the new stadium are beginning to pile up quickly.

The Pegulas are now paying yet another Coach not to coach their hockey team.

They gotta fund their daughter's tennis career.

They're so cash-strapped, that they're considering selling part of the Bills for chrisakes.

Is it possible that Terry pulled Beane aside and simply said to him....

"Listen, don't move up in the first round. If the guy you like is there at 28, take him. If not, consider moving back into the second round, as the salary and the signing bonus for a second rounder will be much less for a guy drafted in the second, as opposed to the first."

What makes me wonder, is Beane's bland, generic, response to why he didn't pick last night: "We're just following our board."

Really?

Spitballing is fun. But like your hypothesis usually leads to the wrong conclusion.

Remember Pegula is a Billionaire, the savings we’re talking about would be the equivalent of loose change in his big pockets that he’d give to the homeless guy washing his Rolls’ windshield at the bridge intersection.

Historian
04-26-2024, 03:15 PM
Why the selling of the assets then?

Mad Max
04-26-2024, 03:40 PM
Why the selling of the assets then?

to unlock a horde of cash?

He has a tremendous net worth but a lot of that is in assets, this sale would provide him a big dose of liquidity.

What he does with that liquidity, who knows?

It’s definitely not because he can’t afford groceries due to inflation. He’s certain to have a big picture plan.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 03:55 PM
Mark Cubin sold controlling ownership of the Mavs. I guess he was about to go broke?

Thurmal
04-26-2024, 07:05 PM
Ok, why do you believe the team's ownership is so precarious?

Teams don't get sold very often because of affordability issues.

Pegulas in his mid 70s, his wife is too ill to inherit the team, and who knows if his kids want to pay the taxes to inherit it.

sahlensguy
04-26-2024, 07:16 PM
Pegulas in his mid 70s, his wife is too ill to inherit the team, and who knows if his kids want to pay the taxes to inherit it.

I thought you were talking cap hits and money as reasons for questioning the ownership.

I agree with you on the health reasons.

Any links to what the kid's desires may be?