So Who at #33?

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Based on what Beane said that they had options in trading down but not wanting to go into the 40s. So very likely they make a pick here. What do you think they will do at pick #33?

1) Trade out
2) Adonal Mitchell or Troy Franklin, or Ladd McConkey, or Keon Coleman, or Roman Wilson
3) Cooper Dejean
4) Johnny Newton
5) Jackson powers-Johnson

I'm leaning to 3)

[Ed]

If they trade again I don't think it will be more than a few spots.

My guess would be Cooper DeJean at 33 and then a WR with the next pick. Maybe even a trade up from 60 for one.

[daryls61]

Trade down.

[Woodman]

If they drop back it won't be far ..... if they pick Corner, Center, WR ... and don't rule out DT.

Right now they are definitely fielding calls.

[sahlensguy]

I think he's trading back a few spots and salivating at trading up from 60 with the extra draft capitol.

[Woodman]

Trade down.



Round 2-3 orderRound 233. Buffalo Bills (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/bills/) (from Carolina)
34. New England Patriots (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/patriots/)
35. Arizona Cardinals (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/ari-cardinals/)
36. Washington Commanders (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/commanders/)
37. Los Angeles Chargers (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/chargers/)
38. Tennessee Titans (https://theathletic.com/nfl/team/titans/)

How far if they do?

[notacon]

Keon Coleman with #33.

There will be another run of WR's after #33.

If not WR, Cooper DeJean would be a good pick.

[Woodman]

What would the Pats take at 34 if we trade behind them? OL/C :idunno:

[kgun12]

6. All of them! Seriously Dejohn or Newton

[DraftBoy]

Go BPA with DeJean or trade down and see who falls to you.

[kgun12]

If they trade again I don't think it will be more than a few spots.

My guess would be Cooper DeJean at 33 and then a WR with the next pick. Maybe even a trade up from 60 for one.

I saw this trade with Washington: the Bills give them 33 and 60 and a 4/5 and get 36 and 40.

[Woodman]

I saw this trade with Washington: the Bills give them 33 and 60 and a 4/5 and get 36 and 40.

Very tempting if offered.

How does it work out on points I wonder. :scratch:

[acehole]

Based on what Beane said that they had options in trading down but not wanting to go into the 40s. So very likely they make a pick here. What do you think they will do at pick #33?

1) Trade out
2) Adonal Mitchell or Troy Franklin, or Ladd McConkey, or Keon Coleman, or Roman Wilson
3) Cooper Dejean
4) Johnny Newton
5) Jackson powers-Johnson

I'm leaning to 3)

Ladd and trade back up for Coleman or Franklin.

Ladd = NFL ready

Him and Shakir can interchange x and slot.

Colmen will fit perfectly in games old role.

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Based on what Beane said that they had options in trading down but not wanting to go into the 40s. So very likely they make a pick here. What do you think they will do at pick #33?

1) Trade out
2) Adonal Mitchell or Troy Franklin, or Ladd McConkey, or Keon Coleman, or Roman Wilson
3) Cooper Dejean
4) Johnny Newton
5) Jackson powers-Johnson

I'm leaning to 3)

Ladd and trade back up for Coleman or Franklin.

Ladd = NFL ready

Him and Shakir can interchange x and slot.

Colmen will fit perfectly in gabes old role.

[kgun12]

Very tempting if offered.

How does it work out on points I wonder. :scratch:

33=580
60=300

36=540
40=500

That's where the 4/5 come in!

[Woodman]

33=580
60=300

36=540
40=500

That's where the 4/5 come in!


I'd probably pull the trigger but I'd insist on our last 5th #163.

So #33 #60 #128 and #163

For # 36 and #40

If that's over paying they are the ones coming up so :wtf:

[Novacane]

If they can find a way to get Dejean and McConkey I'd be estatic.

[Woodman]

If they can find a way to get Dejean and McConkey I'd be estatic.

Don't like the Patriots sitting at 34.

[Mad Max]

With all this time sitting at the number one pick and as many phone calls and offers he will have gotten I am more than 50% confident of one last trade down.

[sahlensguy]

With all this time sitting at the number one pick and as many phone calls and offers he will have gotten I am more than 50% confident of one last trade down.

And it's impossible for Beane to trade up off of that pick. A wonderful day to be a Bills fan.

[Novacane]

With all this time sitting at the number one pick and as many phone calls and offers he will have gotten I am more than 50% confident of one last trade down.


I think so too. Unless there's a player they love and their moves last night suggest there isn't.

[Historian]

NO HIGH MOTOR GUYS!!!!!

[Woodman]

One last small move down .... seems to be what's in the cards tonight.

:gobills: :popcorn: :secret::list::dance:

[Woodman]

NO HIGH MOTOR GUYS!!!!!


20291

So no Mike Kadish types.

[Novacane]

NO HIGH MOTOR GUYS!!!!!


So no white guys unless they're OL?

[DraftBoy]

Don’t get the love for Ladd. He’s one hit away from yet another injury and while he’s got talent I’m not sure how much of it will translate to the NFL.

I think the Bills are likely much more infatuated with a guy like Keon Coleman.

[Novacane]

20291

So no Mike Kadish types.


How about Mike Lodish

[Mad Max]

So no white guys unless they're OL?

I was going to agree with you thinking back to Ryan Denny, Chris Kelsey, Aaron Schobel, Pete Metzelaars, Tyler Bass…but then I thought of Aaron Maybin, Eric Flowers, Marcellus Wiley, John Mccargo…

So therefore we must remain color blind in regards to the high motor guys.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

He spoke repeatedly about moving up with all the 5's he has. So a lot of what happens has to do with the willing traders and how the board falls. I bet he takes the CB with the pick - simply because there are at least two disgruntled WR vets whose value will drop after this draft, that can serve as a backstop to the board not going his way. A CB vet might be harder to come by. I hope he gets to move up to three picks in the second, snagging a CB and two WRs.

But I don't know **** cuz I'm just a jamo w/keyboard.

[Woodman]

How about Mike Lodish


20292

Nope he's high motor.

[YardRat]

S Dejean or DT Newton.

Get a WR later.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

ESPN just had on the chyron "Bills fielding calls for pick #33"

[DraftBoy]

Rapoport and Schefter both saying they are hearing the Bills and Keon Coleman at 33.

[EDS]

Rapoport and Schefter both saying they are hearing the Bills and Keon Coleman at 33.

Meh. Hope this works out but seems like a reach.

[sahlensguy]

Meh. Hope this works out but seems like a reach.

Hands, toughness, game speed, size and athletic ability. What's not to like? They all have question marks. This guy looks like a beast.

[Forward_Lateral]

Is Mitchell just over rated by mock drafters? Is there a red flag? It’s odd that he’s still there considering many said the Bills would take him at 28

[sahlensguy]

Is Mitchell just over rated by mock drafters? Is there a red flag? It’s odd that he’s still there considering many said the Bills would take him at 28

Yes there's red flags. Game day speed and game day strength are two of them. Takes plays off etc, all add up to the big red flag - may be uncoachable.

[Forward_Lateral]

Yes there's red flags. Game day speed and game day strength are two of them. Takes plays off etc, all add up to the big red flag - may be uncoachable.

Rapp also said that his interviews with several teams were bad. Seemed disinterested, etc.

[sahlensguy]

Rapp also said that his interviews with several teams were bad. Seemed disinterested, etc.

The shot of him at home, after he got drafted was a bad look. Like completely disinterested.

[Forward_Lateral]

I think both Bills picks have potential to be great

[Woodman]

Keon Coleman with #33.

There will be another run of WR's after #33.

If not WR, Cooper DeJean would be a good pick.
Got it!!

[Historian]

Keon Coleman with #33.

There will be another run of WR's after #33.

If not WR, Cooper DeJean would be a good pick.

Spot on Nota.

Well done.

What do you think of his skills?

[Forward_Lateral]

I wasn’t really high on Coleman until I did research after the pick.

Of course there’s always a chance he busts, but if he works his butt off, he has the elite ceiling. His physical intangibles are off the charts, and his hands are already elite.

[notacon]

Spot on Nota.

Well done.

What do you think of his skills?

Thanks.

In the "Round 1 & 2 Predictions. Who you guess" (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/265715-Round-1-amp-2-Predictions-Who-you-guess) thread before the draft started I had this...


1. Move up - WR Brain Thomas Jr
2. S Javon Bullard (might have to move up to get him too).

I suspect that the Bills had four WR's with 1st round grades, and quite possibly tried to move up to get Thomas. When he went at #23, Keon Coleman was probably next up on their depth chart as it's pretty clear Beane did not want Worthy, Pearsoll and Legette.

Coleman seems to be the closest skill set to Thomas albeit not as fast. Their background in basketball as their first sport is almost identical as is their size and ability to win contested catches.

It's obvious why the Bills covet Coleman and his skill set. Big, tough, who can go up and (as we've all heard by now) "play above the rim". He has the potential to be a red zone star, almost uncoverable. He also is known as a good blocker. His record of acrobatic one handed catches and great hands (he hardly EVER drops the ball) has me (and I suspect Josh Allen) extremely excited to see how he develops.

Dane Brugler had these observations in his The Beast 2024 Draft Guide...



STRENGTHS: Physically impressive athlete … outstanding body control, hip flexibility and leaping skills to sky the ball and make plays above the rim … didn’t record first drop of 2023 until the ACC title game (had an outstanding gauntlet drill at the NFL combine) … routinely makes 50/50 grabs, and his highlight reel includes several one-handed catches … maintains his focus to track/finish while wearing defenders like a backpack … consistently draws pass interference calls, especially in the red zone … snatch-and-go receiver with the limber frame that allows for half of his body to make the catch while the other half gets a head start working upfield … quick at the line and at the top of his route … improved nuance as a route runner, introducing head bobs or jab steps to get corners leaning at the break point … knows how to use his body to shield defenders on slants … able to physically dominate as a blocker and will take cornerbacks completely out of plays … wasn’t expected to return punts at Florida State, but he filled the need and was productive (joined Peter Warrick as the only FSU players with 100-plus receiving yards and 100-plus punt return yards in the same game) … averaged 12.0 yards per punt return in 2023 (25/300/0) … “loves to work,” according to head coach Mike Norvell (NFL scout: “His drive since he was a kid was to max out his ability and cash in for his family. … That singular focus and talent? Yeah, I’ll bet on that.”) … teammates speak highly of the way he carries himself (Trey Benson: “He has so much energy. … I’ve never seen him down.”) … led team in receiving at two different schools.

WEAKNESSES: Not a burner, and his speed is mediocre by NFL standards … can be more efficient beating the jam and stacking corners … routes require additional polish and deception … doesn’t consistently separate on film, leading to a high-trafficked catch points (his 30 contested targets ranked second most in the FBS in 2023) … guilty of extending both hands and pushing off defenders downfield (flagged twice for offensive pass interference in 2023) … played through a partial muscle tear in his hip/groin area throughout the 2022 season at Michigan State (an injury contributed to his decision to give up basketball); missed one game as a junior and parts of several others because of nagging injuries (November 2023).

SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Florida State, Coleman lined up inside and outside (motion-heavy) in head coach Mike Norvell’s up-tempo scheme. After putting himself on the NFL radar as a two-sport athlete at Michigan State, he transferred to Tallahassee in 2023 and led the Seminoles in receiving — and the nation in acrobatic “He did what?!” catches. Thanks to his basketball background, Coleman “big brothers” cornerbacks up and down the fi eld using size, strength and athleticism. But what really separates him as a pass catcher is his dominance with the ball in the air. Not only can he overpower defenders at the catch point, but he also makes leaping acrobatic stabs appear routine with his natural body control and extraordinary catch radius. Overall, Coleman must develop more nuance to his route running, but his big-man twitch, physicality and ball-winning adjustment skills allow him to be a difference maker. With continued refinement, he has the talent to be an NFL starter (similar in ways to Courtland Sutton).

GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 37 overall)

Once Thomas was gone, Keon Coleman is a fantastic second choice, and Beane did EXTREMELY well in trading back to greatly improve the value of later round picks.

With the other 2nd round pick of safety Cole Bishop has the Bills with two solid prospects that will almost assuredly be starters some time next year. Coleman probably from day one, and Bishop as he picks up experience with McD probably favoring the vet Edwards as bishop learns the defense, with Bishop becoming the clear starter and one of the leaders of the defense for 2025.

All-in-all, after only three picks, I'm extremely encouraged by Beane's skill.

[notacon]

I wasn’t really high on Coleman until I did research after the pick.

Of course there’s always a chance he busts, but if he works his butt off, he has the elite ceiling. His physical intangibles are off the charts, and his hands are already elite.

All reports have his attitude to be first class and is known as a hard worker and positive locker room presence.

It's fairly obvious that the reason Adonai Mitchell dropped like a rock to #52 overall and the 11th WR off the board (after being widely mocked to the Bills at #28) was his character issues.

Coleman sure looks like a perfect fit for the Bills.

[sahlensguy]

All reports have his attitude to be first class and is known as a hard worker and positive locker room presence.

It's fairly obvious that the reason Adonai Mitchell dropped like a rock to #52 overall and the 11th WR off the board (after being widely mocked to the Bills at #28) was his character issues.

Coleman sure looks like a perfect fit for the Bills.

He's the anti Stfon Diggs, lockeroom presence wise.

[notacon]

He's the anti Stfon Diggs, lockeroom presence wise.
I suspect that that is one of THE reasons Josh Allen wants him.

[Woodman]

Brandon Beane- Josh Allen was "pretty pumped" to hear we were drafting Keon Coleman - NBC Sports (https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/brandon-beane-josh-allen-was-pretty-pumped-to-hear-we-were-drafting-keon-coleman)