“We know this much: The Bills aren’t scared anymore.” Ty Dunne. Article enclosed.

[Mad Max]

great read. Coming from a guy that’s been very critical of our management, this article
came as a bit of a surprise.

if Ty can be confident Why TF can’t I? LFG!!!

https://www.golongtd.com/p/brandon-beanes-message-to-kc-is-clear?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

[sahlensguy]

Oh please...

Fearless? No.

Fearless would have been taking Coleman at 28 because you were convinced that he was the best wr of the group.

Fearless would have been drafting athletes with upside over safe, back up players with leadership qualities. And football players over the Gran Turismo guy.

[Woodman]

The Pats attempted to move up to 32 from 34.

We opted to take the Panther offer at #33 instead.

Were the Pats going to take Coleman?

That seems to be the case.



Did Buffalo Bills stiff-arm Patriots’ attempt at landing Keon Coleman in Round 1 of NFL Draft? - newyorkupstate.com (https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2024/04/did-buffalo-bills-stiff-arm-patriots-attempt-at-landing-keon-coleman-in-round-1-of-nfl-draft.html)

[YardRat]

Beane doesn't have the resume' to get the benefit of the doubt between fearless and reckless. KC owns him so far.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

I remember the Bills signing an UDFA Arkansas TE and made him into a near-20 year starting left tackle. I keep the possibility door open for the British chappie. What he will probably be I have no idea, and neither does anyone else any more than the Bills coaches.

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Beane doesn't have the resume' to get the benefit of the doubt between fearless and reckless. KC owns him so far.

No they don't.

[Novacane]

Rename this place to the ***** zone.

[Mad Max]

Rename this place to the ***** zone.

So much gets lost in filters :lol:

[YardRat]

Rename this place to the ***** zone.

I'm sorry, I've kind of hit my limit of frustration with this team specifically and the league in general. I'll try to be more "Rah! Rah! We're the best!!" in the future.

[Woodman]

I'm sorry, I've kind of hit my limit of frustration with this team specifically and the league in general. I'll try to be more "Rah! Rah! We're the best!!" in the future.
You can wait until June 2nd after that :idunno:

:gobills: :cheers:

[notacon]

great read. Coming from a guy that’s been very critical of our management, this article
came as a bit of a surprise.

if Ty can be confident Why TF can’t I? LFG!!!

https://www.golongtd.com/p/brandon-beanes-message-to-kc-is-clear?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web


It's a great article from a credible writer who has been extremely critical of McD and the Bills lack of fearlessness in the past.

Dunne is as objective as they come.

He has been screaming for the Bills to go "all in" with Josh Allen, letting Josh be Josh.

The two moves that show they have done exactly that are getting rid of Diggs, and drafting Keon Coleman, Josh's pick of WR to draft.

[FanBack]

The trade with KC was excellent value for Buffalo. A refusal to talk with them would have showed that the Chiefs were in their heads. I would have been disturbed if there was a report they turned down the trade.

Or worse, wouldn't answer the phone. Can you imagine if Brandon Beane had Brett Veach's number blocked?

KC is in many Buffalo fans' heads; that's OK. If they get in the GM or Head Coach's heads, that's a problem.

[sahlensguy]

The trade with KC was excellent value for Buffalo. A refusal to talk with them would have showed that the Chiefs were in their heads. I would have been disturbed if there was a report they turned down the trade.

Or worse, wouldn't answer the phone. Can you imagine if Brandon Beane had Brett Veach's number blocked?

KC is in many Buffalo fans' heads; that's OK. If they get in the GM or Head Coach's heads, that's a problem.

And the Bills are in your head. Using the compensation of the 3rd round pick on a backup at best, is bad value

[Chet]

If they were fearless they’d have hired a HC who doesn’t repeatedly fail

[FanBack]

And the Bills are in your head. Using the compensation of the 3rd round pick on a backup at best, is bad value
That is subsequent to the trade. Remember, a Wise Poster (truly a Poster Laureate) once said - 'Being negative vs. positive is neither a sign of accuracy nor objectivity'.

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That is subsequent to the trade. Remember, a Wise Poster (truly a Poster Laureate) once said - 'Being negative vs. positive is neither a sign of accuracy nor objectivity'.

Winning. With class and grace.

[Mad Max]

That is subsequent to the trade. Remember, a Wise Poster (truly a Poster Laureate) once said - 'Being negative vs. positive is neither a sign of accuracy nor objectivity'.

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Winning. With class and grace.

Did you just quote and respond to yourself? Lol

anyway it’s too bad you can’t give double thanks here as I would have done so for “poster laureate”…brilliant!

[DetoxTent]

I'm sorry, I've kind of hit my limit of frustration with this team specifically and the league in general. I'll try to be more "Rah! Rah! We're the best!!" in the future.

Nah. There's way too many homers here already. We like people being realistic. And compared with the Eagles draft, Beane looks like a novice. This draft is, well, being as upbeat as I can, is underwhelming.

Others have suggested in the past, take Josh Allen away from the equation and Beane's drafting is highly suspect.

[DetoxTent]

If they were fearless they’d have hired a HC who doesn’t repeatedly fail

2024 has to be his last hurrah if he cannot coach his team past KC. He's been given a lot of rope.

[Mad Max]

Nah. There's way too many homers here already. We like people being realistic. And compared with the Eagles draft, Beane looks like a novice. This draft is, well, being as upbeat as I can, is underwhelming.

Others have suggested in the past, take Josh Allen away from the equation and Beane's drafting is highly suspect.

Beanie has done ok not great you’re right. He needs to score more stars.

The Chiefs by comparison have had more star level selections (those stars are the difference makers that brought them three rings):

Chris Jones
Tyreke
Mahomes
Mcduffie
Humphrey

[Bill Cody]

Oh please...

Fearless? No.

Fearless would have been taking Coleman at 28 because you were convinced that he was the best wr of the group.

Fearless would have been drafting athletes with upside over safe, back up players with leadership qualities. And football players over the Gran Turismo guy.

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

[Bill Cody]

And the Bills are in your head. Using the compensation of the 3rd round pick on a backup at best, is bad value

Not really. The odds of a 3rd rounder becoming a quality NFL starter are about 16%. If you get a guy taking 40% of the snaps and doing a good job with them that's above average. I doubt Carter will be a total bust, probably a fairly useful player at a position we needed depth. <shrug>

[sahlensguy]

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

My criticism was calling him fearless for trading back, but you didn't want to hear that.

And which Uber athletes from past drafts was I highly critical of?

[sahlensguy]

Not really. The odds of a 3rd rounder becoming a quality NFL starter are about 16%. If you get a guy taking 40% of the snaps and doing a good job with them that's above average. I doubt Carter will be a total bust, probably a fairly useful player at a position we needed depth. <shrug>

What are the odds of a 3rd rounder sticking if he has starting potential vs a 3rd rounder who has only backup potential??

[Bill Cody]

What are the odds of a 3rd rounder sticking if he has starting potential vs a 3rd rounder who has only backup potential??

Lol

Don't know. Don't care.

[Bill Cody]

My criticism was calling him fearless for trading back, but you didn't want to hear that.

And which Uber athletes from past drafts was I highly critical of?

I don't think he was fearless for trading back. Just doing what was right for the team under the circumstances.

I wasn't referring to you specifically criticizing the uber athletes drafted but he certainly has been by a number of posters here, you know that. My point is no matter what he does some will be unhappy.

[sahlensguy]

I don't think he was fearless for trading back. Just doing what was right for the team under the circumstances.

I wasn't referring to you specifically criticizing the uber athletes drafted but he certainly has been by a number of posters here, you know that. My point is no matter what he does some will be unhappy.

I didn't say I was unhappy he traded back. Nor can you come up with past Uber athletic picks I was unhappy with for being Uber athletic.

Good job!

[YardRat]

I suspect the Bills had Coleman and Leggette rated about the same. I suspect that was close to how most evaluators had them rated, it happens. Coleman is slow, Leggette is a one hit wonder. So what do you do in that case? Pass on extra picks to look "fearless"? Not following your criticism there.

The funny thing about your other comments is Beane is constantly being criticized for doing exactly what you say he didn't do this year. He's always picking the uber athletes instead of higher production/character guys. Sounds like he can't win.

I am somebody that criticizes Beane for leaning toward 'freak' attributes and/or measurables, but I will admit a couple of his picks this year were more from the "just plays ball" mold. Looking forward to seeing how they pan out. And it still wasn't smart to double-up on OTs, I don't care if the kid from England is "only" a seventh-rounder. I would have preferred another receiver if we were going to take more than one kick at a position.