What's up with Big Mike Williams??

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  • mchurchfie
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 13418

    What's up with Big Mike Williams??

    I can understand him still making mental mistakes this early in his career but he has shown no signs of overpowering physical play in his runblocking and sometimes passblocking as of late. Is he thinking too much with all of Gilbride's feakin counter/trap/finesse run plays?? It's pretty bad when you get outplayed by Jamie Nails. This is very troubling to me.
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  • lordofgun
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    • Jul 2002
    • 48416

    #2
    Ummm....I thought he was VERY overpowering in the first 2 games...something like 23 pancake blocks according to John Clayton.






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    • ryven
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 2230

      #3
      he just doesnt have sullivan helping him out at run blocking Piculio still has to work on that aspect of his game.

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      • Fairway To Green
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 42375

        #4
        If only we'd lost to Carolina 2 years ago we'd have Julius Peppers and a complete D instead of Mike. I'm dissapointed in him too.

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        • mchurchfie
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 13418

          #5
          Originally posted by lordofgun
          Ummm....I thought he was VERY overpowering in the first 2 games...something like 23 pancakes
          Not impressed...Nails could eat more than that.
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          • TedMock
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 3221

            #6
            The counter trap was our bread and butter during the "Glory Years". Obviously Henry and Thurman are two totally different styles. Thurman ran toward the line and cut back through the holes. Henry either runs straight into the line or dances around in the backfield. He doesn't seem to be running instinctively. Hit the hole fast and hard! I know he's not a cut back runner but you have to see the holes and adjust. I just don't get it.

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            • superbills
              Registered User
              • Mar 2003
              • 1170

              #7
              Actually I'm kind of upset we got rid of Nails...without Carl
              "Mauk-up-the-line-so-bad-that-our QB-will-die", I think that Nails could have flourished here. That aside, the whole friggin line can't run block to save their lives. You can't depend on Mike to blow the entire opposing D off the line. I'm less worried about him and more worried about grandpa Ruben and Ash-Trey Teague who, IMHO, drag down the line severely.
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              • Fairway To Green
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 42375

                #8
                ROTFL @ your ricky Wanny picture Church!!!!!!!!

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                • don137
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7720

                  #9
                  I am not making excuses for Big Mike but I wonder if Buffalo not having a great DE has hurt Big Mike's development to the NFL. If he had a stud DE to go against in practice he could be more developed. As a result it hurts him going against good DE's. The reason I say this is because here in Charlotte Jordan Gross, who was the Panthers number one pick this past year, has progressed tremendously and he is constantly saying it is because he goes against Peppers in practice everyday and so when gameday comes there is nothing he hasn't seen in practice and it is actually easier because the players he goes against are not as good as Peppers

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                  • Ð
                    1-800-SAD-GOAT
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17319

                    #10
                    That shouldn't matter. In the pros, full contact drills/scrimmages against teammates make up only @ 10 % or less of their in-season practice time. If they did more than that, you'd see 5x as many injuries.

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                    • SABURZFAN
                      short bus extraordinaire
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 50747

                      #11
                      Re: What's up with Big Mike Williams??

                      Originally posted by mchurchfie
                      It's pretty bad when you get outplayed by Jamie Nails.
                      Originally posted by yordad
                      Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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                      • Disgustipatex
                        The King Troll himself(Formerly Piltdown Man)
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 170

                        #12
                        Nails last season outplayed the vast majority of offensive linemen in the league. How often do you see a Guard pull and take 3 Defenders out of a play? He was a damned road grater before he got injured.

                        As for a LT getting better practicing against good DE's..I agree. It helps. We've got a 3rd round rookie LT starting, and he's holding his own, and in some cases manhandling Pro Bowl caliber RDE's.

                        I think the problem is that Williams was playing a guy much better then he usually is up against. How many upper tier DE's do Right Tackles face? Strahan and Pryce are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. O-gun is simply just a damn good player.

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                        • The_Philster
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52180

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Disgustipatex
                          Nails last season outplayed the vast majority of offensive linemen in the league. How often do you see a Guard pull and take 3 Defenders out of a play? He was a damned road grater before he got injured.
                          It used to be the only way he took out defenders was by falling on them. But more often than not, the only thing he took out was the buffet table.
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                          • colin
                            Drew's my hero!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2491

                            #14
                            mike had a bad game, don't trip

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                            • Jan Reimers
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                              • May 2003
                              • 17353

                              #15
                              The 4th overall pick should either be your stud left tackle or your road grader on the right on running plays. So far, Big Mike appears to be neither.
                              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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