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  • L.A. Playa
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 19295

    If anyone is to blame it is .....

    Ralph Wilson, he made the decision to start Rob Johnson against Tennesee in the playoffs (the run that made Gregg Williams a hot assistant), he fired Bruce De haven who is now the specials teams coach of the Cowboys hired by Bill parcells (credited with the call on opening TD yesterday), he fired John Butler and Wade Phillips, created the Flutie-Johnson controversy and hired Gregg Williams and didn't fire him yet. So really if anyone is to blame it is Ralph Wilson
  • Miami_Vice
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 354

    #2
    You should blame yourself for cheering for these gutless losers.

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    • L.A. Playa
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 19295

      #3
      you know i always keep football in perspective i would like the bills to win every week if they dont i dont die or get depressed i just move along and make sure what is important is taken care of (my family) football doesnt pay me so i don't allow myself to get too emotionally attached Ralph doesnt "SHOW ME THE MONEY" so i dont let this team depress me

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      • HenryRules
        • Jul 2002
        • 2757

        #4
        Re: If anyone is to blame it is .....

        Originally posted by pmacla
        Rob Johnson against Tennesee in the playoffs (the run that made Gregg Williams a hot assistant)
        Going to leave that one alone, as it has been done to death and no need to rehash

        Originally posted by pmacla
        he fired Bruce De haven who is now the specials teams coach of the Cowboys hired by Bill parcells (credited with the call on opening TD yesterday)
        Agree, that was bad.

        Originally posted by pmacla
        he fired John Butler and Wade Phillips
        Disagree entirely. Butler's team peaked at 9-7 and was going to have to be rebuilt anyway. Wade Phillips had run his course and didn't know his role. A hierarchy within the organization needs to be maintained, otherwise you will have disorder/anarchy which is not good in sports.

        Originally posted by pmacla
        Created the Flutie-Johnson controversy
        The players had more to do with this than anyone else ... see Kurt Warner (not his wife) and Drew Bledsoe for the way that classy players handle these situations.

        Originally posted by pmacla
        and hired Gregg Williams and didn't fire him yet.
        Actually, he hired TD and let him hire the head coach. You can blame him for hiring TD, or TD for hiring GW, but not Wilson for hiring GW. Yes the buck stops at Wilson, which is why you can blame him for TD, but TD also has to do his own job. For the same reason, you can't directly blame Ralph Wilson if the guys at the gate are too pushy and make you throw away your beer before its finished - that's their fault and their boss - blame Wilson for the policy/rules, but not for the actions of others.

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        • LtBillsFan66
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 35553

          #5
          Bruce De haven looked golden with the call against the Eagles.

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          • L.A. Playa
            Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 19295

            #6
            Ralph in a sense created Greeg Williams as a hot assitant by starting Johnson, lets ssay Flutie starts that game and wins Titans don't go to Super Bowl no one is thinking of Gregg Williams

            By making Phillips start Johnson he created controversy

            Fired Butler because he didn't support Wilson going over his coaches head in Johnson decision

            Fired Wade because he wouldn't fire his coaches

            Hired Donahoe because he could ralte to the old man boys network

            Allowed Donahoe to do anything he has wanted including hiring Gregg and not demanding he let him go

            Listens to all the BS donahoe tells him about GW because donahoe wants to be called a genius for hiring GW

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            • L.A. Playa
              Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 19295

              #7
              Maybe Ralph Wilson wants to piss Buffalo fans off so he can move the franchise to more golden pastures?????/

              Los Angeles is making a big push for a franchise and Ralphie likes money so why not create a team that looks like a SB contender get fans hopes up tank season so they are pissed off and move to L.A. to get money from Ahhhhhhnold

              conspiracy theory #333,258,152,658,987

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              • Mr. Miyagi
                Lecter's Little *****

                • Sep 2002
                • 53616

                #8
                You really should lay off the crack.

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                • L.A. Playa
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 19295

                  #9
                  buffalonians can never take a joke

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                  • HenryRules
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2757

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Ralph in a sense created Greeg Williams as a hot assitant by starting Johnson, lets ssay Flutie starts that game and wins Titans don't go to Super Bowl no one is thinking of Gregg Williams
                    You couldn't leave this one alone??? Johnson put the team in position to win the game, DeHaven lost the team the game. Blame DeHaven for this one ... but you can't blame Wilson for both hiring a guy and then blame him for firing a guy, so I guess you have to bend this to your own wishes.

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    By making Phillips start Johnson he created controversy
                    Controversy was created long before that.

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Fired Butler because he didn't support Wilson going over his coaches head in Johnson decision
                    Not the only reason he fired Butler ... but the problem with this is???

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Fired Wade because he wouldn't fire his coaches
                    Thank you for restating what I said ... and the problem with this is???

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Hired Donahoe because he could ralte to the old man boys network
                    What?!?!? Where in he!! did you dig this one up?

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Allowed Donahoe to do anything he has wanted including hiring Gregg and not demanding he let him go
                    So, he was wrong for firing Butler because Butler allowed people to do anything they wanted, but he is wrong for allowing Donahoe to do anything he wanted? Pick a side.

                    Personally, I disagree with you on this anyway. Wilson still has quite a say in FA signings.

                    Originally posted by pmacla
                    Listens to all the BS donahoe tells him about GW because donahoe wants to be called a genius for hiring GW
                    Yeah, Wilson really seems to be a big GW booster in the last season or so. That's why GW's contract runs out, isn't it?

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                    • lordofgun
                      in charge of you

                      Administrator Emeritus
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 48416

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pmacla
                      buffalonians can never take a joke
                      He's from Wisconsin. That explains everything.






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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71601

                        #12
                        Flutie was beter than Rob Johnson
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                        • L.A. Playa
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 19295

                          #13
                          it is just food for thought
                          not saying i neccesarily believe any of this
                          but if the players are not the problem it must be the man in charge then the real man in charge is Ralph and it is funny how the Bills history kinda made GW and now he is allegedly ruining the bills

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                          • Mr. Miyagi
                            Lecter's Little *****

                            • Sep 2002
                            • 53616

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pmacla
                            it is funny how the Bills history kinda made GW and now he is allegedly ruining the bills
                            That IS irony, isn't it?

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                            • Judge
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1310

                              #15
                              Re: If anyone is to blame it is .....

                              Originally posted by pmacla
                              Ralph Wilson, he made the decision to start Rob Johnson against Tennesee in the playoffs (the run that made Gregg Williams a hot assistant), he fired Bruce De haven who is now the specials teams coach of the Cowboys hired by Bill parcells (credited with the call on opening TD yesterday), he fired John Butler and Wade Phillips, created the Flutie-Johnson controversy and hired Gregg Williams and didn't fire him yet. So really if anyone is to blame it is Ralph Wilson
                              Not a bad point! Of course, we must be thankful to Mr. Wilson for giving us a team. And he did hire Tom Donahoe, who put together a talented roster even if the record isn't indicative of how good this team could be yet. However, you make a valid point as to how this whole thing has played out.
                              Argue like hell. Keep it clean. And when it's over, shake hands and root for our team!

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