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R. Rich
10-28-2003, 02:32 PM
I wonder if it would help to start blitzing from the corners or the safety position more. I have seen it used a few times, but what if we were to blitz a bit more? It couldn't hurt. Any other suggestions?

Patrick76777
10-28-2003, 02:35 PM
Thank you RRICH! Someone who understands that teams can get better in season, not just in the off season!

Jeff1220
10-28-2003, 02:37 PM
Leave the opponents receivers uncovered as they run their routes and rush 11 guys. That might have some flaws :evil: but, no guarantees, it might generate a pass rush from this D.:rolleyes:

WG
10-28-2003, 02:40 PM
Put 9 on the line...

ArcticWildMan
10-28-2003, 02:42 PM
Corner blitz and drop our LB's back in coverage (and pray they can handle the assignments).

BillsFever
10-28-2003, 02:42 PM
Lets put Drew Bledsoe on the defensive line. He's the best in the NFL when it comes to getting sacks.

Mr. Miyagi
10-28-2003, 02:43 PM
Whatever happened to LeBeau's signature Zone Blitz and Fire Zone??? I have yet to see our guys swarming QBs under LeBeau.

The Spaz
10-28-2003, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
Whatever happened to LeBeau's signature Zone Blitz and Fire Zone??? I have yet to see our guys swarming QBs under LeBeau.

Hey Gregg Williams explained the firezone when Dante Hall caught that TD pass saying "we were in a firezone and not using coverage technique"....lmao!!!!!:up: :fab:

mchurchfie
10-28-2003, 02:47 PM
They were sending everything but the kitchen sink at Trent Green last Sunday and still couldn't get to him, ultimately paying the price for it by giving up big play after big play. That is what is so discouraging...when they send everyone they still can't generate any kind of a pass rush.:wail:

mchurchfie
10-28-2003, 02:49 PM
It all starts with good push from the front four which we have absolutely none of.:shakeno:

WG
10-28-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Corner blitz and drop our LB's back in coverage (and pray they can handle the assignments).

Now that's revolutionary WM!! LOL

Interesting how GW and Gray/LeBeau haven't figured that one out yet, eh! LOL

Or the Ss.

And we wonder why we're doing poorly. This tremendous "wealth" of NFL experience and we're not doing this much at all. Funny!

Mr. Miyagi
10-28-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Wys Guy
And we wonder why we're doing poorly. This tremendous "wealth" of NFL experience and we're not doing this much at all. Funny!
I don't why you find any of this so hilarious. We're losing and it's not funny. Any real Bills fan would be upset.

WG
10-28-2003, 03:24 PM
OK Miyagi...

:rolleyes:

LtBillsFan66
10-28-2003, 03:26 PM
People want to promote Laboe to head coach!?

I'm still wondering where the genius zone blitzing schemes are!

LtBillsFan66
10-28-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
Whatever happened to LeBeau's signature Zone Blitz and Fire Zone??? I have yet to see our guys swarming QBs under LeBeau.

Saw this after my post. :D

R. Rich
10-28-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Patrick76777
Thank you RRICH! Someone who understands that teams can get better in season, not just in the off season!

I guess I could classify myself right now as a "bitter optimist". I still believe they can win, meaning the pieces are in place to be competitive, but they have to use them right. So far, they're not, thus the bitterness.



Originally posted by BillsFever
Lets put Drew Bledsoe on the defensive line. He's the best in the NFL when it comes to getting sacks.

Drew and Rob Johnson together; then we'll lead the league in sacks, huh (haha!!)?




Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
Whatever happened to LeBeau's signature Zone Blitz and Fire Zone??? I have yet to see our guys swarming QBs under LeBeau.


Originally posted by billsfanone
People want to promote Laboe to head coach!?

I'm still wondering where the genius zone blitzing schemes are!

Hey Myagi, bf1........we're all wondering!

helmetguy
10-28-2003, 07:03 PM
Simply because LeBeau is ASSISTANT HC doesn't necessarily mean that GW has to REALLY listen to him.

GW: "Yeah, Dick. That's a GREAT IDEA!" (aside to JG: Keep up the good work! *wink* Just keep doing what you're doing! *wink**wink*)

Jan Reimers
10-29-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by mchurchfie
It all starts with good push from the front four which we have absolutely none of.:shakeno:

Exactly. All the schemes and gimmicks in the world will not work if you don't have at least one pass rusher on your D line.

R. Rich
10-29-2003, 09:31 AM
I tend to disagree with you there, Jan. I'm not saying that you can make your way through the schedule on just schemes and gimmicks, but to say that you can't be productive with them is not right. Now, we do need an upgrade in talent along the line, there's no question about that. Still, I think we can get by until then with some adjustments here and there. I'm not saying it will turn these guys into sack specialists, but with some proper coaching, they could at least be able to put pressure on a QB more often than they do.

stuckincincy
10-29-2003, 10:04 AM
I think the DL are two-gapping themselves to death.

ArcticWildMan
10-29-2003, 11:01 AM
Has anyone noticed that our linesmen never get their hands up in the air when it's a pass? I don't think I saw a single hand go up to try an block/deflect a pass against KC. It's almost like our guys are sitting back so the QB doesn't scramble.

Is this because our defensive line is so run orientated?

stuckincincy
10-29-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Has anyone noticed that our linesmen never get their hands up in the air when it's a pass? I don't think I saw a single hand go up to try an block/deflect a pass against KC. It's almost like our guys are sitting back so the QB doesn't scramble.

Is this because our defensive line is so run orientated?

Interesting point. I've only seen Mia-Cin-Kc tv games and am not likely to see any more. But I don't recall a swat in any of those. It looks like they're playing a strict follow-the rules-and-don't-deviate defense. :idunno:

zone
10-29-2003, 11:42 AM
One of the problems is that our defense is on the field so much that they just start getting lazy ecpecially when the score is 35-5. We need a real pass rush, and if the people that they have in there are not going to get at the qb take them out, put km in for denney. start putting the smack down and lighting fires under some a$$'s!

BillsNick
10-29-2003, 11:45 AM
It's time to put up, or shut up. that's it. we need action, not words.:madcloud:

R. Rich
10-29-2003, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by BillsNick
It's time to put up, or shut up. that's it. we need action, not words.:madcloud:


You said it! I get so tired of the seemingly pre-programmed rhetoric from OBD after each game. They should fine anyone from the organization who uses the overused phrases like "we have to execute better..." or "we just need to make plays...". I'm so tired of that!

justasportsfan
10-29-2003, 12:20 PM
Haven't we gotten sacks off of the zone blitzes? Proileau/Feltcher. Milloy on Brady? Problem is you can't do that all the time. Teams eventually read into it. Besides Gray makes the calls on gameday and not Lebeau , no?

I say bribe the other teams OL.

stuckincincy
10-29-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by justasportsfan

I say bribe the other teams OL.

I say our DL's should go on the field with a well-worked plug of Red Man or Mail Pouch in their maws. :spit: