Well, finally someone in the national level media figuring this all out...

**mackey789** · 10-30-2003, 11:01 PM

i liked it better when we were winning and you didnt post on here, i hope we start winning and you go back into your hole. You are so god damn annoying dude.

**The Natrix** · 10-30-2003, 11:35 PM

I am sick of going the FA QB route. TD needs to take a QB in the first or second round (preferably the first) this coming draft. Someone who is not too raw who can step in mid-season if Bledsoe is doing his same old crap.

WG · 10-31-2003, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by mackey789
i liked it better when we were winning and you didnt post on here, i hope we start winning and you go back into your hole. You are so god damn annoying dude.

Just referencing an article. I didn't add anything. What's the matter, upset that perhaps it's true or that someone over at SI said it?

I'm just the messenger. Send that guy an e-mail if you disagree.

Yeah, I'm w/ ya Natrix, except we should have done that by now.

**E-Klips** · 10-31-2003, 08:13 AM

I'm NOT with you, Natrix.............kinda. I agree that we need to put the successor in place at QB, but not more than we need to strengthen our OL and our DL!! The lines are a few players away from being good. I would go after the best DE and OG we could first. Then, I might look at QB, but we also have to find another DT since Adams isn't working out as well as we hoped. Maybe they could get someone who could split time with him (Ron Edwards is NOT that person!).

**Novacane** · 10-31-2003, 08:15 AM

Jim Rome was giving it to the Bills and Bledsoe the other day too. Not everyone is fooled by passing yards

**RedEyE** · 10-31-2003, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by mackey789
i liked it better when we were winning and you didnt post on here, i hope we start winning and you go back into your hole. You are so god damn annoying dude.

I'm obviously not and admin, but.......

.....this is an unwarranted post. Take it to a PM or use the ignore selection.

**IHateTheDullphins** · 10-31-2003, 08:34 AM

Bledsoe sucks. he just sucks. The only thing that other teams need to do to beat us, is get to bledsoe, easy task. He can play when he's got all day, and I'm a poet, and didn't know it. BLEDSOE SUCKS!!!!

If I have to watch that glazed over look in his eyes one more time I'm gonna

You're right Wys, I definitely agree with you about Bledsoe.

**mybills** · 10-31-2003, 08:35 AM

I'd take a QB in the first round too. Could work the lines by moving players into different positions. For one Pucillo, and get Teague off the center position while they're at it. But if they decide to keep Drew, he needs a coach that will get through to his thick skull that he needs to scope the field and get rid of the ball faster. Obviously, the current set up isn't getting us anywhere.

**BillsMan80** · 10-31-2003, 08:41 AM

Folks, as much as we say it, the lines are not in as bad shape as we think. The OL is in need of a Center and Guard. What about experimenting by moving Big Mike to RG, and Price to RT. Arizona drafted Leonard Davis as a tackle, moved him to guard, and he's been great. On the DL, I think the only position we lack is an End. Schobel, is fine, and I have been happy with the DT play this year. We aren't in as bad shape as we think. And obviously the coaching problem must be addressed.

**Novacane** · 10-31-2003, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by BillsMan80
The OL is in need of a Center and Guard. What about experimenting by moving Big Mike to RG, and Price to RT.

That would be worth a try but they won't do it because they are paying williams tackle money and because it makes sense.

WG · 10-31-2003, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by IHateTheDullphins
Bledsoe sucks. he just sucks. The only thing that other teams need to do to beat us, is get to bledsoe, easy task. He can play when he's got all day, and I'm a poet, and didn't know it. BLEDSOE SUCKS!!!!

If I have to watch that glazed over look in his eyes one more time I'm gonna

You're right Wys, I definitely agree with you about Bledsoe.

Whether he "sucks" or not really isn't the issue regardless IHTD. I usually overstate my position on him simply due to the fact as also supported by the writer of the article above, that Drew was "annointed great" even before his career really began. He's never been subjected to the challenges and threats beneath him that other QBs in the NFL are. It doesn't take a genious to figure out that some of those seasons were far from great.

The undeniable notion, for those looking at Drew objectively, is that he simply isn't worth $5-6M. He just isn't. And as I've said, he's a liability in the playoffs. He has struggled v. winning teams throughout his career regardless of season, team, coaching, talent around him, etc. Why would any team want a QB for "free" if he's not capable of playing like anything other than crap in the playoffs. I've challenged everyone to give me evidence that he's capable of playing a good PO game for two years and no one can come up w/ anything. I'll tell ya why, it's b/c there's absolutely no evidence for it.

And suppose for a second that he had a stellar first round playoff game. What are the odds that he'd be able to string a second one to that? A third, which would be the minimum we'd ever need to win to win a SB? ...before he threw a game w/ 3 or 4 picks and played so horribly regardless of what the D, RBs, STs, and rest of the team did so as to give a game away.

This hope and notion that somehow Drew's capable of playing 3 or 4 back-to-back games against playoff teams w/o giving at least one of them if not most of them away, or playing such that the other aspects of the team would need to compensate, is slim to none. He's never done it and never will. Everyone gives him the credit for winning all those playoff games w/ NE, but if you go look at those games, everyone of them was won in spite of him and not b/c of him. That's a fact. And to those in the other thread, last year he was credited for all of our wins, but of course this year he has little to do with us playing like crap even tho it's the O that primarily at fault. Same in NE, he didn't take the heat for their PO losses when he should have.

This guy has this absoulutely correct that Drew's rep was predefined before he even took a snap in the NFL. He's never been challenged, and even now we have fans stating that there are few other QBs in the league, backups or whatever, who can't possibly throw 3 TDs for each 4 INTs that they throw, a level that Drew's essentially been playing at for nearly the entire time he's been here now w/ only a few games of exceptions.

Thru 24 games he has 30 TDs and 23 INTs. Problem is that 12 of those TDs have been in 4 games, three against incredibly poor opponents. So in the other 20 games he has only 18 TDs to 23 INTs. And we're to believe that Blake couldn't play like that.

Originally posted by mybills
But if they decide to keep Drew, he needs a coach that will get through to his thick skull that he needs to scope the field and get rid of the ball faster. Obviously, the current set up isn't getting us anywhere.

He's 31 (or so) mybills, if he hasn't learned that by now then he never will. Everyone here gave RJ what, 2 seasons to do that before they tossed him and he was in the fledgling part of his career.

**helmetguy** · 10-31-2003, 11:25 AM

But what if someone actually wrote a GOOD article about him that you happen to disagree with, Wys? Is this one of those "I told you so" things again?

**askabry** · 10-31-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Wys Guy
... And we're to believe that Blake couldn't play like that. ....

Look bud, I was pulling for Jeff Blake. But there is ABSOLUTELY nothing in the performance of Jeff Blake since 2002 started to indicate to you he could have thrown 30 touchdowns in 24 games.

And when it's all said and done, a panel of NFL scouts just today said that among the players in the league whose loss would devastate a team was Drew Bledsoe. Funny ... nowhere in that list did they mention Jeff Blake. I can't imagine why.

Probably because they didn't consult with you, is what I'm thinking.

**Mr. Miyagi** · 10-31-2003, 11:50 AM

Oh man, not yet another Wys' "Bledsoe sucks" thread.

Seriously, where is the ignore function???

Well, finally someone in the national level media figuring this all out...

Well, finally someone in the national level media figuring this all out...

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