Drew isn't even respected by OC's anymore

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  • BillsFever
    Mr. Predictament
    • Feb 2003
    • 5478

    Drew isn't even respected by OC's anymore

    What QB couldn't expose a team sending the blitz at him everytime he goes back to pass? Eventually a QB will find one of the open WR's and burn them with the blitz.

    This shows a lack of respect and having no fear in Bledsoe making the right decision to beat them at it.

    Teams just don't blitz all the time. Drew has nothing left and the league knows it.
  • Cntrygal
    Visually stunning but camera-shy.
    • Jul 2002
    • 44884

    #2
    Well the defenses don't really worry about our running game. Even if we run a few times, we don't stick with it.
    Originally posted by notacon
    The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

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    • Philagape
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      • Jul 2002
      • 19432

      #3
      Exactly. An established running game forces LBs and safeties to be ready for a run instead of storming the QB.
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      • BillsFever
        Mr. Predictament
        • Feb 2003
        • 5478

        #4
        What are we supposed to do run every play so Drew doesn't have to pass? If that's the kind of QB you want then that's your decision but that's not what I'm looking for.

        Henry has had 3 great games in a row and Drew can't capitalize on it. Dallas was schemed to stop the run and Drew still couldn't do it.

        And if the're loading on Drew and send the kitchen sink you would think he would read it at least once and find an open WR that has to be open when they're sending 8 guys at him.

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        • Cntrygal
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          • Jul 2002
          • 44884

          #5
          No, that's not what I mean. I would just like to see an ESTABLISHED running game that we are committed to. I've always thought that the "run is supposed to set up the pass". Not the other way around. If defenses actually believed that they were in danger of us running, we may be able to successfully pass. But instead, they know that once KG starts having DB throwing....... that's what we're going to stick with. We're very predictable.
          Originally posted by notacon
          The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

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          • Cntrygal
            Visually stunning but camera-shy.
            • Jul 2002
            • 44884

            #6
            oh.... and I forgot to add..... that I would love to see the plays get called by someone who appeared to have a clue. Third and short we pass ..... Third and long we run???? What's up with that?
            Originally posted by notacon
            The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

            For news, articles and other "stuff"... BillsZone.com

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            • Philagape
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              • Jul 2002
              • 19432

              #7
              We're supposed to run on first down at least a majority of the time. We're supposed to run on third and short at least some of the time. We're supposed to run enough so that safeties and LBs won't blitz as much, and they'll bite on play-action passes.
              Henry had a great game against Wash., when we did all that and won. He had good games STATISTICALLY against KC and Dallas, but the offense wasn't centered around him as it should be, as was repeatedly promised before the season. In those games we passed first, then ran, so there was nothing to capitalize on.
              Drew is the kind of QB that needs help. He's past his prime and immobile but can still do well in an offense that helps him out and doesn't try to force players into an egomaniac's failed scheme. He needs a running game to set the tone, and he needs time, and he needs receivers to run real routes instead of West Coast short crap.
              The WC Offense does not work unless it has Hall of Fame execution from Montana and Rice, coached by Walsh. Most other teams that try it fail. Running games and defenses win championships. The last three Super Bowl-winning QBs are Brad Johnson, Tom Brady and Trent Dilfer. I don't think we'll see any of them in Canton. We need an offense that keep defenses honest, protects the QB and makes the best use of the skills of a QB and WRs. Ours doesn't. We have a Pro Bowl receiver who runs 5-yard slants.
              Dallas' scheme was to kill Drew. We all knew it, and the Bills did nothing to stop it.
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              • BillsFever
                Mr. Predictament
                • Feb 2003
                • 5478

                #8
                Drew needs this, Drew needs that. People have been saying that for that last 5 years.

                There isn't enough time and salary cap space in the NFL to get Drew everything he needs. He needs a top notch running game, a wall that can block for 6 seconds on every play, and 2 or 3 weapons to pass to.

                I can name at least 10 QB's with less talent around them then Drew, on a worst team then Drew, and are under worst conditions then Drew who are putting up better numbers.

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                • BillsFever
                  Mr. Predictament
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 5478

                  #9
                  An offense that protects the ball? Drew has 90% of our turnovers this year.

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                  • Cntrygal
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 44884

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BillsFever
                    I can name at least 10 QB's with less talent around them then Drew, on a worst team then Drew, and are under worst conditions then Drew who are putting up better numbers.
                    I don't doubt that at all....... but how's their coaching staff. Are their coaches playing to the strengths or highlighting the weaknesses?

                    Originally posted by notacon
                    The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

                    For news, articles and other "stuff"... BillsZone.com

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                    • BADTHINGSMAN
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 10504

                      #11
                      I agree with Billsfever, by the time Drew gets what he needs what he has now will be over.. Not even having P.Price could help D.Bledsoe out this year..

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                      • BADTHINGSMAN
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 10504

                        #12
                        Its not just the coaching staff, Bledsoe has failed to get rid of the ball, taking to many sacks, he cant pick up the blitz and his accuracy is way off.. Bledsoe is the one in charge on the field.. If he doesnt like a call , he needs to audible out of the play call more.. Bledsoe just isnt getting it done this year, even when the Oline gives him some time he forces the ball..

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                        • BillsFever
                          Mr. Predictament
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 5478

                          #13
                          If if Drew is such a great QB why do we need to build an cast of pro bowlers at every position around him? No team can do that.

                          If you build the kind of team around Akili Smith that everybody talks about building around Drew he would be a great QB too.

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                          • Cntrygal
                            Visually stunning but camera-shy.
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 44884

                            #14
                            Is anyone in this thread saying he's "GREAT"? I'm not. BUT..... IMO, the lack of coaching/discipline is more to blame. After all... you said it best, there are QB's with less talent doing more. What's the common denominator with those teams that we're lacking?
                            Originally posted by notacon
                            The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

                            For news, articles and other "stuff"... BillsZone.com

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                            • Philagape
                              WIN NOW
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 19432

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BillsFever
                              Drew needs this, Drew needs that. People have been saying that for that last 5 years.

                              There isn't enough time and salary cap space in the NFL to get Drew everything he needs. He needs a top notch running game, a wall that can block for 6 seconds on every play, and 2 or 3 weapons to pass to.

                              I can name at least 10 QB's with less talent around them then Drew, on a worst team then Drew, and are under worst conditions then Drew who are putting up better numbers.
                              OK, do it.
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                              "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

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