Gilbride countdown thread...

[ArcticWildMan]

Tomorrow by 4PM is my guess.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Tomorrow by 4PM is my guess.

Please god make it so! :angel:

[honey]

I think I'm starting to agree with you guys. I'll say Tuesday at 8:00am. :D

[Ingtar33]

Press conference at noon on monday...

firing coordinators in the NFL is not as taboo as taking down the HC in mid stream... but if I was GM I would...

Fire GW and KG.

Lebeau raised to HC
Steckel to OC

Play out the season and see how the team reacts.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Ingtar33
Press conference at noon on monday...

firing coordinators in the NFL is not as taboo as taking down the HC in mid stream... but if I was GM I would...

Fire GW and KG.

Lebeau raised to HC
Steckel to OC

Play out the season and see how the team reacts.

Aye aye captain. Seriously that wouldn't bother me at all!:horn: :beer:

[ArcticWildMan]

Hey Ing...is Steckel OC material? His stint as our O-line coach sure hasn't been all that stellar (whether it's his fault is another thing).

Can a line coach make the jump to coordinator?

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Hey Ing...is Steckel OC material? His stint as our O-line coach sure hasn't been all that stellar (whether it's his fault is another thing).

Can a line coach make the jump to coordinator?

I beleive Steckel has been an OC before!:) Pat Ruel is our o-line coach!:)

[ArcticWildMan]

What position is Steckel in right now?

[ArcticWildMan]

Nevermind...looked it up. He's our running back coach right now.


:dizzy:

[The Spaz]

http://www.buffalobills.com/photos/steckel_les.jpg
Running Backs coach.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Nevermind...looked it up. He's our running back coach right now.


:dizzy:

exactly...lol:)!

[ArcticWildMan]

Hell, he CAN'T be any worse than Gilbride. Sign him up.

[Ingtar33]

Les Steckel?

He was the OC on the Titians Superbowl team in '99. Even an NFL head coach for a single game in ’84 for the Vikings. And he’s the RB coach, not OL coach

He was OC for the Titans from '95-99, and OC for the Buccaneers in 2000

[ArcticWildMan]

Question is....does he even want the job? He may not want to be the next fall guy.

[JJamezz]

Wasn't he OC for the Titans during their SuperBowl year?

I don't imagine he's any great shakes as a coordinator, but one thing the guy DOES do is run the ball... Of course, we may be without Henry for a while...

[JJamezz]

If it doesn't go down by this time tomorrow, I don't think it's happening at all this season.

[Historian]

10 am tomorrow morning.

[don137]

Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
What position is Steckel in right now?

Kind of a personal question isn't it AWM:cp:

Must be getting cold in Alaska :D

[ArcticWildMan]

Originally posted by don137


Kind of a personal question isn't it AWM:cp:

Must be getting cold in Alaska :D



:couch: I hate these long winters

[mush69]

Sorry Folks but I just don't see it happening. As much as I want hear to the front office say they are Fired, they will not FIRE anyone! If anything happens it will be a complete shock!

:monkey: on the Bills Staff!

Ralph needs to get :firehead:

[Expansion Blues]

I am a long time Oiler fan and followed them deeply into TN. Steckel loves to run the ball and throw to the Tight Ends in the flat (Frank Wycheck loved him). He is a solid coordinator and is a good fit with a team with a solid defense. He is not going to keep calling passing plays on 3rd and short. The only problem I have with Steckel is the fact that he held McNair back a little too much. He would not have that problem here from what I saw today. When did Bledsoe turn into Elvis Grbac?

[Cntrygal]

Congratulations Expansion.

:sadwalk:

[BAM]

:pray:

If the lord answers my prayers, tonight by midnight :D

[Ebenezer]

I am afraid it won't happen. The season will wind out as is.

[stuckincincy]

Originally posted by Expansion Blues
I am a long time Oiler fan and followed them deeply into TN. Steckel loves to run the ball and throw to the Tight Ends in the flat (Frank Wycheck loved him). He is a solid coordinator and is a good fit with a team with a solid defense. He is not going to keep calling passing plays on 3rd and short. The only problem I have with Steckel is the fact that he held McNair back a little too much. He would not have that problem here from what I saw today. When did Bledsoe turn into Elvis Grbac?

Thanks for the comments. I've liked the Oilers thru the years. Pastorini, Campbell, Bethea, Bubba, Bum. I even remember Charlie Tolar (sp?). And Billy Cannon - or was he with the old AFL Dallas Texans? And of course, George Blanda.

[TigerJ]

Not soon enough. Of course I'm right on this one because yesterday was not soon enough. The fact that Buffalo has an experienced OC on the staff besides Gilbride should make it a little easier to get rid of Gilbride. But then again, that was true weeks ago and he's still here.

I don't see why Steckel wouldn't take it on an interim basis. I doubt it will have any bearing on whether he is here after the season unless by some miracle he gets everything turned around and the offence catches fire.

I think the interesting question is: What can a new OC do? He can't throw out what seems to be a fundamentally flawed system and install a new one in mid season, I don't think. Can he simplify Gilbride's offence so that it at least becomes somewhat workable? That is can he cut down the number of reads that receivers and QB are having to make? Whaddaya think, Ingtar?

[Ingtar33]

short answer... yes

Steckel would have a few advantages replacing Gilbride at this point. One: as a member of the staff he would know the players and language, nothing fundamental would change.

All he would do is toss out the huge playbook Gilbride uses, to what he likes, maybe as small as 40 basic plays. Remember, even in Gilbride's system the WRs do have a basic "rout" with every play. All Steckel would have to do is tell the WRs and QB that the routs are largely static.

This is a temporary move... what Steckel would then do, over the course of the remaining weeks is add more and more of the stuff he likes, in increments, just to keep defenses honest.

Very little time would be wasted on teaching a new system... he'd just use a stripped down version of what we are doing.

The most obvious thing that would be to the fans... is i think most of the vertical passing routs would disappear overnight.... with a lot more swing passes, screens, crossing routs, and the TE will be used. You'll also see the team run in third and short.

[northernbillfan]

:bf1: great post Ingtar!


Originally posted by Ingtar33
Very little time would be wasted on teaching a new system... he'd just use a stripped down version of what we are doing.

The most obvious thing that would be to the fans... is i think most of the vertical passing routs would disappear overnight.... with a lot more swing passes, screens, crossing routs, and the TE will be used. You'll also see the team run in third and short.

You mean I would actually be able to see a run play on third and short??? I can't remember the last time I saw the Bills do something like that. I even forgot that was an option.

And a stripped down version of what we are doing now woulld bwe an improvoemnet!.

[SABURZFAN]

not soon enough.:mad:

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by The Spaz

Pat Ruel is our o-line coach!

another guy who should be fired.:mad:

[elltrain22]

Yes, it is coming real soon. They should fire him and GW. What an awful team this has become.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Ingtar33
short answer... yes

Steckel would have a few advantages replacing Gilbride at this point. One: as a member of the staff he would know the players and language, nothing fundamental would change.

All he would do is toss out the huge playbook Gilbride uses, to what he likes, maybe as small as 40 basic plays. Remember, even in Gilbride's system the WRs do have a basic "rout" with every play. All Steckel would have to do is tell the WRs and QB that the routs are largely static.

This is a temporary move... what Steckel would then do, over the course of the remaining weeks is add more and more of the stuff he likes, in increments, just to keep defenses honest.

Very little time would be wasted on teaching a new system... he'd just use a stripped down version of what we are doing.

The most obvious thing that would be to the fans... is i think most of the vertical passing routs would disappear overnight.... with a lot more swing passes, screens, crossing routs, and the TE will be used. You'll also see the team run in third and short.


Have we been running a verticle passing game lately? Shaw had the biggest play since week 2 with a slant that he turned into a 36 yarder - and the longest pass play vs Dallas was an 18 yard screen to Morris