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STAMPY
11-26-2003, 02:21 PM
after the eminent firing of giant coach jim fassel. HIRE HIM. He has fire, thats what this team needs. A kick in the ass also jim can turn Qbs around... look what he did with kerry

Dozerdog
11-26-2003, 02:35 PM
:rofl: Look what he did with the rest of the team - they have the same recoird as us.

All you have to do to judge this loser is by the horrid coaching decisions made in both MNF games the Giants were in. It was a joke. He is the classic underacheiver.

If he wants to be an OC, I'd consider him. Head coach? No way in hell.

Michael82
11-26-2003, 02:40 PM
Why the hell was he taking a safety after the 2 minute warning with only 1 timeout left? What a fool! :shakeno:

ArcticWildMan
11-26-2003, 03:00 PM
Ummm..maybe because he didn't want to have a punt blocked in his own endzone, or maybe he didn't want to give the ball away with no chance to recover via an onside kick??


Stick to criticizing George Bush, Mikey, cuase you don't know jack about coaching decisions :shakeno:

Michael82
11-26-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by ArcticWildMan
Ummm..maybe because he didn't want to have a punt blocked in his own endzone, or maybe he didn't want to give the ball away with no chance to recover via an onside kick??


Stick to criticizing George Bush, Mikey, cuase you don't know jack about coaching decisions :shakeno:

**** you! Attack the post, not the poster! :mad:

I was saying...why didn't he go for it? either do a fake punt or try throwing 20 yards. If you don't get it, then your defense has to stop them, just like they would if u took the safety and kicked it back to them. :rolleyes:

The safety made no sense, because they wasted time and only had 1 timeout.

Michael82
11-26-2003, 04:36 PM
BTW, you can't onside kick the free kick. :rolleyes:

Dozerdog
11-26-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Mike32282
BTW, you can't onside kick the free kick. :rolleyes:

Tell that to the Giants:rolleyes:

They did:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Dozerdog
11-26-2003, 04:45 PM
New York Giants at 02:15
1-10-NYG12 (2:15) K.Collins pass incomplete to I.Hilliard.
2-10-NYG12 (2:09) K.Collins pass incomplete to I.Hilliard. overthrown right side
3-10-NYG12 (2:04) K.Collins sacked at NYG 3 for -9 yards (W.Sapp). Penalty on NYG-W.Lucier, Chop Block, declined.
4-19-NYG3 (1:59) C.Dach FUMBLES (Aborted) at NYG 0, ball out of bounds in End Zone, SAFETY.
NYG 13 TB 19, Plays: 4 Yards: -12 Possession: 0:18.

New York Giants at 01:57
(Onside Kick formation) M.Bryant kicks onside 9 yards from NYG 20 to NYG 29. K.Dilger (didn't try to advance) to NYG 29 for no gain. Penalty on NYG, Offside on Free Kick, declined.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 01:56
1-10-NYG29 (1:56) B.Johnson to NYG 30 for -1 yards.
2-11-NYG30 (1:13) B.Johnson to NYG 32 for -2 yards.
3-13-NYG32 (:33) B.Johnson to NYG 33 for -1 yards.

Novacane
11-26-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Mike32282
BTW, you can't onside kick the free kick. :rolleyes:


Yes you can. They did. I do agree with you MIke that it was a stupid decision. I think they have a better chance of making the 4th and 19 than they did of recovering the onside kick.

No way I want Fossil here. I don't know where stampede comes up thinking Fossil has fire. Hes a offensive GW.

Michael82
11-26-2003, 05:15 PM
Okay, I guess it's harder though, because you aren't kicking from a tee. My bad. :ontome:

Novacane
11-26-2003, 05:20 PM
They kicked from a tee. You have the choice of either kicking off or punting on a free kick . teams usually punt just because they get the same distance + the hangtime of a punt.


You are right that it was a stupid decision though.

Michael82
11-26-2003, 05:28 PM
Wait a minute, that is different from every other time I have seen a safety. Usually they hold the ball and kick it from their hand. I guess I should've watched it before my comments. Oh well.

It was still a stupid decision. The Giants should have taken a timeout before the 2 minute warning, then take the safety, have the two minute warning to help u out, then try to onside it. But the best thing that shouldve been done, they shouldve gone for it on 4th and 19. If they dont make it, they still have the 2 minute warning and the change of possession timeout to help em out.

Novacane
11-26-2003, 05:34 PM
Back to the topic of the thread................


Fassel...........................NO WAY JOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

ArcticWildMan
11-26-2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Mike32282
But the best thing that shouldve been done, they shouldve gone for it on 4th and 19. If they dont make it, they still have the 2 minute warning and the change of possession timeout to help em out.


Huh? 4th and 19 and pinned almost at the goal line and they would stand a chance to get it back and win? What do you think Tampa does during the time they have possession? Punt from the 15 yard line? :shakeno:

Novacane
11-26-2003, 05:40 PM
They only had 1 timeout so they had only 2 choices that both sucked. Do what they did or go for it on 4th and 19. I would have gone for it. Probably would not have made it but I like the chances better than recovering an onside kick.

Michael82
11-26-2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Fairway To Green
They only had 1 timeout so they had only 2 choices that both sucked. Do what they did or go for it on 4th and 19. I would have gone for it. Probably would not have made it but I like the chances better than recovering an onside kick.

exactly. I bet the odds of them recovering it vs the odds of them getting the first down are pretty small

Tatonka
11-26-2003, 08:22 PM
why would you want to hire a coach that has experience at making a good team bad? the giants have talent, but are not winning.. who does that blame fall on? the coach.

all he has done is taken his team to the playoffs, and superbowl, and they were destroyed.. once.. and nothing the rest of the time.

he sucks. screw him.. you mine as well keep williams if your going to hire fassle

The Spaz
11-26-2003, 08:25 PM
My god WTF would anyone even mention him eesh!!:confused::mad:

Ingtar33
11-27-2003, 12:53 AM
I'll just say this...

Up by 3 with 11 seconds left in Dallas ---> lost in overtime.

Had that happened in Buffalo (the poor clock management) Fassel would have been lynched.

Fassel's teams are notorious for...
1) underachieving
2) poor special teams play
3) highly penalized
4) high turnover/sloppy ball

Those are all signs of poor coaching, poor attention to detail. The biggest warning sign to me, is the classically poor special teams play by the Giants.

RedEyE
11-27-2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by Ingtar33

Fassel's teams are notorious for...
1) underachieving
2) poor special teams play
3) highly penalized
4) high turnover/sloppy ball

Those are all signs of poor coaching, poor attention to detail. The biggest warning sign to me, is the classically poor special teams play by the Giants.

That all certainly sounds familiar.

GW = Ass Clown

ublinkwescore
11-27-2003, 02:18 AM
If we hire fassel, I'm going to be giving up on this team before week 8 for a while if we wait for 3 years for him to work his nonexistant magic.

Jan Reimers
11-27-2003, 06:57 AM
Fassel is dumber than Williams, if that's possible. Why would we hire a proven loser - at least GW was an unknown commodity when we hired him.

mybills
11-27-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Mike32282


**** you! Attack the post, not the poster! :mad:


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