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  • Dozerdog
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    • Jul 2002
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    Interesting coach tidbits from Lenny P

    Over the last few years, NFL-watchers have been mighty fond of noting how some head coaches have staffs that produce guys who move on to top sideline jobs themselves. For instance, the solid Mike Holmgren staffs in Green Bay and Seattle eventually begat Steve Mariucci and Andy Reid and Mike Sherman. The staffs of Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells were fertile breeding grounds for future head coaches. We mention this because, over the next two or three seasons, there are going to be a number of NFL head coaches gleaned from Bill Belichick staffs.

    A pair of college coaches who will soon be in the league, Nick Saban of LSU and Iowa's Kirk Ferentz, were assistants on Belichick's staff in Cleveland. And his current coordinators, Charlie Weis (offense) and Romeo Crennel (defense), may be on short-lists for NFL openings after this season. Maybe it's because he doesn't cozy up to the media as much as some of his colleagues do, but Belichick never seems to get the credit due him, although he has emerged the past few years as the consummate head coach. But when his coaching family tree sprouts a few more limbs, perhaps the skeptics will better understand how good Belichick is, and how he has surrounded himself with very capable people.



    On the belief, by many, that Nick Saban is itching to bolt Baton Rouge and return to the pro ranks: Perhaps more than any of the other college coaches mentioned as potential NFL candidates for 2003, Saban will have more options, with at least three teams that we know already considering him as they draw up shorts lists. But finances are always a factor and, while Saban has virtually no buyout entanglements, it is going to take a hefty package to land his services. The Chicago Bears and New York Giants are often cited as franchises that could be interested in Saban as their next head coach. But check out the financial history of head coaches in both those precincts, as we have, and you wonder if either of those fairly conservative teams will pay the $3 million or more annually it might take to get Saban onboard.

    The suspicion around the league is that neither team is ready to raise the ante significantly over what they are paying their current coaches, Jim Fassel in New York (about $2.7 million-$2.8 million), and Chicago's Dick Jauron (roughly $2.2 million). The one owner for whom money probably won't be an issue is Arthur Blank of Atlanta. But some people close to Saban note that the LSU coach has looked at the club's history and wondered why no coach has ever been able to win with the Falcons.


    Expect teams like the Cowboys and Patriots to be in the middle of the running back market this offseason.
  • Bufftp
    Hi Dave!

    Administrator Emeritus
    • Jul 2002
    • 18062

    #2
    I think Kirk Ferenz will be at Iowa for three more years- his son plays guard there for that time.
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    In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
    "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
    Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

    "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
    - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

    To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
    to be led by permanent ideals -
    that is what keeps a man patient
    when the world ignores him,
    and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

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    • Dozerdog
      In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

      Administrator Emeritus
      • Jul 2002
      • 42586

      #3
      I don't think so- if he wants a HC job in the NFL- he should take it while he can.

      Barry Alverez at one time was the next hot candidate - now he's never mentioned after the program hit a few bumps in the road.

      You take it when the opportunity presents itself- Today's hot assistant or college coach could be tomorrow's garbage (See Gregg Williams)

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      • Bufftp
        Hi Dave!

        Administrator Emeritus
        • Jul 2002
        • 18062

        #4
        Kirk was all the rage last year after leading leading the Hawkeyes to an undefeated big ten title. He declined one Job. Besides their is alot of risk giving up a 1.5 mill college job where your becoming an icon, and going to the NFL's coaching revolving door job security.

        Side note Ferentz is really a product of Hayden Fry's Coaching "combine" along with Bobby Stoops and others.
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        In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
        "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
        Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

        "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
        - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

        To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
        to be led by permanent ideals -
        that is what keeps a man patient
        when the world ignores him,
        and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

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        • Dozerdog
          In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

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          • Jul 2002
          • 42586

          #5
          What job did he decline last year?

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          • Tatonka
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 21289

            #6
            If you are the Buffalo Bills, you've got to be concerned with the physical condition of quarterback Drew Bledsoe, who is suffering from post-concussion symptoms, and whose performance has taken a typical second-half nosedive. It has become a perennial story for Bledsoe, who gets beaten up in the first half of most every campaign, and then limps through the final two months of the season. Since 1996, Bledsoe has posted a record of 32-24 in the first half of the year. That does not account for 2001, when he was injured after two contests, gave way to Tom Brady, and didn't see action in another regular-season game. His record in the second half of those seasons is 22-27. He hasn't thrown a touchdown pass since Week 7 this year and, while some attribute his performance to the watered-down nature of the Buffalo offense, others see it as physical erosion.
            "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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            • Bufftp
              Hi Dave!

              Administrator Emeritus
              • Jul 2002
              • 18062

              #7
              Originally posted by Dozerdog
              What job did he decline last year?
              Ferentz looks like Jags' No. 1 choice

              also


              IOWA responded with making him the highest paid govt. employee in the state. Rumor has it Mrs. Ferentz is very happy in Iowa City and would prefer Kirk to stay while both boys complete school their.Ferentz rejects NFL, will stay with Iowa
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              In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
              "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
              Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

              "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
              - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

              To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
              to be led by permanent ideals -
              that is what keeps a man patient
              when the world ignores him,
              and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

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              • Dozerdog
                In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

                Administrator Emeritus
                • Jul 2002
                • 42586

                #8
                Interesting- But you have to admit the Buffalo job, with all the talent this team has- is a lot more atractive than following Coughlin and rebuilding an entire franchise. And Marv Levy demonstrated that if you are a competent coach in Buffalo- the job's yours as long as you want it.

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                • Bufftp
                  Hi Dave!

                  Administrator Emeritus
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 18062

                  #9
                  really how much talent does blo. have? On defense adequate short of a cple de's and the O? O-line needs major work, recievers and the QB position.
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                  In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
                  "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
                  Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

                  "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
                  - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

                  To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
                  to be led by permanent ideals -
                  that is what keeps a man patient
                  when the world ignores him,
                  and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

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                  • Dozerdog
                    In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

                    Administrator Emeritus
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 42586

                    #10
                    The O-Line isn't as dismal as it appears. Get a Center in FA, Move teague to guard- hell- Ferentz has done a heck of a lot better with a heck of a lot worse talent-

                    Get Moulds healthy, and run to daylight with a Healthy McG and a Healthy Henry.

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                    • Bufftp
                      Hi Dave!

                      Administrator Emeritus
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18062

                      #11
                      maybe Dozer, but bottom line is I want Kirk to stay at IOWA, he is 2 years from fielding a legitimate contender for a national championship. Which by the way may be considered a motivation to stay.
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                      In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
                      "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
                      Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

                      "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
                      - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

                      To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
                      to be led by permanent ideals -
                      that is what keeps a man patient
                      when the world ignores him,
                      and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

                      Comment

                      • Dozerdog
                        In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

                        Administrator Emeritus
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 42586

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bufftp
                        IOWA responded with making him the highest paid govt. employee in the state. [/B]

                        More than the Corn festival King and Queen?

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                        • Bufftp
                          Hi Dave!

                          Administrator Emeritus
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 18062

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dozerdog



                          More than the Corn festival King and Queen?
                          Dozer you must be stopped.
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                          In the end, there are only three liberal archetypes: The fools, the beneficiaries and the crooks.
                          "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day, but if you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life"
                          Optyimus Ignorus Realityious!

                          "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
                          - John F. Kennedy, January 20, 1961

                          To live in the presence of great truths and eternal laws,
                          to be led by permanent ideals -
                          that is what keeps a man patient
                          when the world ignores him,
                          and calm and unspoiled when the world praises him. -- Honore De Balzac

                          Comment

                          • justasportsfan
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71579

                            #14
                            If you don't believe the NFL has evolved into the ultimate coach's league, replacing the NBA in that category, then consider this: Over the past week, ESPN.com queried 14 head coaches, general managers and personnel directors about coach of the year candidates. And the group named eight possibilities, with no one really getting a lion's share of the citations. Those named by our group: Bill Belichick (New England), Jeff Fisher (Tennessee), John Fox (Carolina), Marvin Lewis (Cincinnati), Bill Parcells (Dallas), Andy Reid (Philadelphia), Mike Tice (Minnesota) and Dick Vermeil (Kansas City). Said one prominent general manager: "Forget draft picks, free agents, anything else. Without doubt, the most important decision you have to make anymore is on your head coach, and it's not even close. That's the most critical thing, having the right guy, and being able to keep him around long enough to get his (plan) in place."

                            We are perfect example as far as what bad coaching can do to a team with above average talent.
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                            • Historian
                              2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 61705

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dozerdog
                              Today's hot assistant or college coach could be tomorrow's garbage (See Gregg Williams)
                              ROFLMAO!!!!

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