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DraftBoy
12-04-2003, 06:47 PM
Black Monday:
GW, KG get canned

weeks later:
We hire Lovie Smith to be Head Coach of the Buffalo Bills. He comes in and promises lots of things, yadda yadda yadda, the usual press confrence promises.

He keeps JG on a DC, and promotes Steckel to OC. LeBeau leaves town for another HC job.

Free Agency:
OT Matt Stinchcomb
OC Damien Woody

Draft:
1. S Sean Taylor, Miami
Some people believe hes a better safety than Roy Williams, his stock is sky rocketing but the teams ahead of us have a lot more needs than FS, so I think he will fall to us if we stay in the top 15.

2. DT Chad Lavalais, LSU
Kid is simple a beast, in every game Ive seen him play in hes been all over the backfield disrupting RB's and QB's. Hes come out of nowhere to have a monster year.

3a.OG Chris Kemoeatu, Utah
Nasty bugger, whose got a big body to back it up. Strong run blocking, a real road grader. A guy id like to see Sapp go up against with his big mouth.

3b. QB Josh Harris, Bowling Green
This years Donovan McNabb? Thats what many scouts are saying about Josh Harris, he has all the tools needed to be a succesful NFL QB. Hes bulked up and is willing to check down his receivers without taking off.

4. WR Johnnie Morant, Syracuse
Star receiver from Syracuse. Has had some off the field and concentration problems but has all the tools to be a star in this league someday. I think he could come in and immediately challed Shaw and Reed for the #3 spot on this team.

5. DE Nathanial Adibi, Va Tech
Can you say KGB? This kid is in almost the exact same mold. Hes simply explosive off the edge. Doesnt appear like he'll be able to be an every down DE, hes only 6'3 so hes a little small but hey so is Dwight Freeney. I like him alot.

6. OLB Kendyll Pope, FSU
One of the most productive LB's to come out of FSU since Sam Cowart. Not fast but is instinctively quick. He reads plays exaceptionally well and can catch RB's in the backfield. He could one day replace Posey.

7. WR Derek Adney, Kentucky
A star Punt Returner. Has had a total of 6 career returns for TD's and Kentucky fans love him he can also catch the ball which is nothing short of just good depth.

There you have it. We already have alot of the talent in place for our team, thats why I didnt choose to pick up a major FA (Kearse, Warner, Brunell, Hicks) All these guys are gonna command big money especially the DE's b.c the draft has alot of projects in it. I think with these additions we could be a playoff team. Comments?

HenryRules
12-04-2003, 07:01 PM
Individually I like your moves, but the lack of acquiring another receiving threat worries me.

Regardless of the emphasis we put on the run next year, Moulds is our only proven legitimate receiving option ... I don't think that's a recipe for going far in the playoffs.

Add a free agent receiver (or TE) and I like your ideas.

ArcticWildMan
12-04-2003, 07:07 PM
Kemoeatu would be sweet!!! We need some linesmen with an attitude!!

Brian Griese Rulz
12-04-2003, 07:19 PM
Not addressing the Bills biggest need of a stud DE?? Or CB when Winfield leaves town?

The Spaz
12-04-2003, 07:24 PM
Free Agency:
OT Matt Stinchcomb
OC Damien Woody

I wonder who else said that,hmmmm!:):beer:

Dozerdog
12-04-2003, 08:23 PM
Where did we get 2 3rd rounders?

Don't sat Gary trade- that was only if he met performance expectations- and he didn't.

And we lost a pick in the Cambell trade.

R. Rich
12-04-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Winfield_26
Black Monday:
GW, KG get canned

weeks later:
We hire Lovie Smith to be Head Coach of the Buffalo Bills. He comes in and promises lots of things, yadda yadda yadda, the usual press confrence promises.

He keeps JG on a DC, and promotes Steckel to OC. LeBeau leaves town for another HC job.

Free Agency:
OT Matt Stinchcomb
OC Damien Woody

Draft:
1. S Sean Taylor, Miami
Some people believe hes a better safety than Roy Williams, his stock is sky rocketing but the teams ahead of us have a lot more needs than FS, so I think he will fall to us if we stay in the top 15.

2. DT Chad Lavalais, LSU
Kid is simple a beast, in every game Ive seen him play in hes been all over the backfield disrupting RB's and QB's. Hes come out of nowhere to have a monster year.

3a.OG Chris Kemoeatu, Utah
Nasty bugger, whose got a big body to back it up. Strong run blocking, a real road grader. A guy id like to see Sapp go up against with his big mouth.

3b. QB Josh Harris, Bowling Green
This years Donovan McNabb? Thats what many scouts are saying about Josh Harris, he has all the tools needed to be a succesful NFL QB. Hes bulked up and is willing to check down his receivers without taking off.

4. WR Johnnie Morant, Syracuse
Star receiver from Syracuse. Has had some off the field and concentration problems but has all the tools to be a star in this league someday. I think he could come in and immediately challed Shaw and Reed for the #3 spot on this team.

5. DE Nathanial Adibi, Va Tech
Can you say KGB? This kid is in almost the exact same mold. Hes simply explosive off the edge. Doesnt appear like he'll be able to be an every down DE, hes only 6'3 so hes a little small but hey so is Dwight Freeney. I like him alot.

6. OLB Kendyll Pope, FSU
One of the most productive LB's to come out of FSU since Sam Cowart. Not fast but is instinctively quick. He reads plays exaceptionally well and can catch RB's in the backfield. He could one day replace Posey.

7. WR Derek Adney, Kentucky
A star Punt Returner. Has had a total of 6 career returns for TD's and Kentucky fans love him he can also catch the ball which is nothing short of just good depth.

There you have it. We already have alot of the talent in place for our team, thats why I didnt choose to pick up a major FA (Kearse, Warner, Brunell, Hicks) All these guys are gonna command big money especially the DE's b.c the draft has alot of projects in it. I think with these additions we could be a playoff team. Comments?

You and I both like Taylor as the first pick. In all probability, he won't fall to us in the middle of the first round. He's someone that I wouldn't mind to see us trade up to get though. To me, he's more a can't miss prospect than Will Smith is at DE.

Your next 2 picks are good too. I have been touting Kemoeatu's praises for the past month and I feel we will be able to get him in the third.

As for 4-6, I don't know. I don't know if Morant or Adibi will make it out of the third round (if so, it would be a surprise). Morant would probably be higher were it not for injury concerns. Also, if Pope's shoulders (both were operated on) have healed and the scouts feel he's okay, he'll be gone in the 2nd or 3rd as well. I'd rather see us go after Maurice Jones of South Florida at LB anyway. He's also cat quick, agile, and, more importantly, healthy. I don't know much about Adney yet, so I'll take your word that he's a solid choice in the 7th.




Originally posted by The Spaz
I wonder who else said that,hmmmm!:):beer:

Yeah, kinda like I've been campaigning for Chris Kemoeatu of Utah for OG. He would be ideal for a power running game.



Originally posted by Dozerdog
Where did we get 2 3rd rounders?

Don't sat Gary trade- that was only if he met performance expectations- and he didn't.

And we lost a pick in the Cambell trade.

I think that compensatory pick from Gary is anywhere from 5th to 7th, depending on Gary's results this season. I estimated a 7th in my mock.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Brian Griese Rulz
Not addressing the Bills biggest need of a stud DE?? Or CB when Winfield leaves town?


AHHH ***** forgot about mentioning that I would of course resign Winfield.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by HenryRules
Individually I like your moves, but the lack of acquiring another receiving threat worries me.

Regardless of the emphasis we put on the run next year, Moulds is our only proven legitimate receiving option ... I don't think that's a recipe for going far in the playoffs.

Add a free agent receiver (or TE) and I like your ideas.

What FA would you like? Dennis Northcutt? Wast of money IMO. Hed be our 4th and for his price hes a waste. Improvement on the line, a solid coaching scheme, and a new year I think helps us to get a more accurate view of what are WR situation is. Each has had glimpses this year, as has Campbell and Neufield. I think our core is good, there are no good WR in FA worth the money it would take to get a #2 WR in here. We can all dream of TO but lets be reasonable, SF is gonna franchise him.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by R. Rich


You and I both like Taylor as the first pick. In all probability, he won't fall to us in the middle of the first round. He's someone that I wouldn't mind to see us trade up to get though. To me, he's more a can't miss prospect than Will Smith is at DE.

Your next 2 picks are good too. I have been touting Kemoeatu's praises for the past month and I feel we will be able to get him in the third.

As for 4-6, I don't know. I don't know if Morant or Adibi will make it out of the third round (if so, it would be a surprise). Morant would probably be higher were it not for injury concerns. Also, if Pope's shoulders (both were operated on) have healed and the scouts feel he's okay, he'll be gone in the 2nd or 3rd as well. I'd rather see us go after Maurice Jones of South Florida at LB anyway. He's also cat quick, agile, and, more importantly, healthy.

With the strong top heavy WR class this year alot of teams that have that as a need will take them earlier allowing for border round players to fall. Case in point Josh Reed. Adibi is a solid DE but hes nothing more. It would be a shock to me if he goes in round 3. With the DE class being so weak I dont expect to see alot of them picked early. I know it sounds like I just contradicted myself but the draft is so confusing as it has to do with diffrent posistions.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Dozerdog
Where did we get 2 3rd rounders?

Don't sat Gary trade- that was only if he met performance expectations- and he didn't.

And we lost a pick in the Cambell trade.

I remeber somebody saying we had 2, I may be wrong, so dont quote me on that one.

Tatonka
12-05-2003, 08:15 AM
i was under the impression that we had 2 3rd rounders, one from the gary trade.. so it may have been me that misrepresented that originially.. my bad.

i like the draft alot.. except for a couple things..

i think taking 2 receivers is a mistake.. i could see adding one.. either FA or Draft.. but we dont need two. t.. right now.. moulds, reed, shaw, aiken, are all locks to make this roster.. and then we have room for one more.. if we draft a kid and he is a stud, then he bumps coleman off.. so be it.. or if we bring in someone like darrell jackson or northcutt (who is a playmaker.. i do like northcutt alot).. but if we bring in two guys, then aiken gets bumped and that is too much for me.. we have to give the kid a chance.

you addressed the line well.

i am starting to believe (pending the rest of the season) that either mcgee or thomas will be ready to take over winfields spot next season... if winfield demands too much money.. td will let him go... i hope we keep him.. but i am starting to think we may not need to if the money can be used someone else wisely.

you know my beef with harris.. vs rivers :D

justasportsfan
12-05-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Brian Griese Rulz
Not addressing the Bills biggest need of a stud DE?? Or CB when Winfield leaves town?
This team is a couple of players away from having a great D. If you depend on the draft, he will be another project. I say get a DE who can make an immediate impact.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by justasportsfan

This team is a couple of players away from having a great D. If you depend on the draft, he will be another project. I say get a DE who can make an immediate impact.

Which DE is that? Kearse? Yea he'll make an impact for about 3 weeks till he hurts himself. Hicks? He'll make a quiet one if that. Will Smith? Rookie and they dont usually make big impacts immediately until few years later.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka
i was under the impression that we had 2 3rd rounders, one from the gary trade.. so it may have been me that misrepresented that originially.. my bad.

i like the draft alot.. except for a couple things..

i think taking 2 receivers is a mistake.. i could see adding one.. either FA or Draft.. but we dont need two. t.. right now.. moulds, reed, shaw, aiken, are all locks to make this roster.. and then we have room for one more.. if we draft a kid and he is a stud, then he bumps coleman off.. so be it.. or if we bring in someone like darrell jackson or northcutt (who is a playmaker.. i do like northcutt alot).. but if we bring in two guys, then aiken gets bumped and that is too much for me.. we have to give the kid a chance.

you addressed the line well.

i am starting to believe (pending the rest of the season) that either mcgee or thomas will be ready to take over winfields spot next season... if winfield demands too much money.. td will let him go... i hope we keep him.. but i am starting to think we may not need to if the money can be used someone else wisely.

you know my beef with harris.. vs rivers :D

Well added Adney on there b.c right now we are getting no PR yards. It could b.c of blocking but who knows anymore. Adney is a PR specialist, and his blocking has not always been the greatest at UK. As for Jackson I doubt he leaves, I dont see why your so high on Northcutt hes done nothing special, he seems to be a poor mans Bobby Shaw. Also remeber that if we bring in 2 WR's. We will probably bump Coleman and Simonton not Aiken. Just my thoughts, unless Sam really sucks it up.

BillsMan80
12-05-2003, 09:42 AM
Winfield, not bad, but I'll go head to head with you...

HC-Romeo Crennel
-Brings in knowledge of the Pats and Belichick's schemes, and not to mention has done a great job. Would be able to enstill some discipline too.

OC-Les Steckel
-Has experience, and will not be afraid to run the ball.

Keep Coaching Staff on offense except for Pat Ruel. Possibly move Dan Neal to OL Coach, because he played there in his NFL Days.

Keep the Defensive Coaching Staff.

FA-Sign DE Eric Hicks.
OC Damien Woody.
WR Dennis Northcutt.
Resign CB Antoine Winfield.

Draft.

1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami
-On the same page with most here. Feel that he would be an instant playmaker in this defense. Him and Milloy would bring fear into receivers to go across the middle against us, and with the addition of Hicks would give our corners solid support.

2. Cody Pickett, QB, Washington
-Underrated player. Excellent arm, and a terrific athlete. Struggled some, but I think a player with a huge upside. From what I've seen, he has a much better arm than Tuiasosopo, and is just as mobile.

3. Adrien Clarke, OG, Ohio State
-A big, tough, physical, and athletic mauler out of Ohio State. Just the opposite of Pussywillow. Is a road grader, but is also pretty athletic for being 6-5, 355. Talented player, and one who would start for us immediately.

4. Kris Wilson, TE, Pittsburgh
-Not the best blocking TE out there, but that is what we have right now, 2 blocking TEs. Wilson is an exceptional receiver, and has terrific athletic ability. Would be an excellent H-back if opting that way.

5a. John Standeford, WR, Purdue
-Not the quickest WR out there, but the stats don't lie. He's an awfully productive player. Outstanding hands, and will get open a lot. Big, physical player standing at 6-4, 205. A bigger, and faster version of Ricky Phroel probably.

5b. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
-I know, you are asking who, and from where? Well, he was a 2002 transfer from Duke, and there he had a great year with 12 sacks in the ACC on the league's worst team. Big, strong player at POA, and will be a solid player.

6. Tommy Kelly, DT, Mississippi State
-Went to Hinds CC, and sounds a lot like Tyrone Robertson right? Well, this kid is big, 6-6, 303, and runs a 4.88 40. Good speed and athletic ability for a player of his size. Is a pretty good pass rusher, but can also stuff the run. Needs time to develop, but the finished product will be good.

Once again, I'd like to keep the structure of the staff pretty close to what it was, without GW and KG. I too think we have a solid team, and we are just picking up some loose ends in FA.

The Natrix
12-05-2003, 09:56 AM
I like all your picks except Harris. He can run and has a nice quick release, but that is about it. I think he is shorter than the 6'3 he is listed at and he doesn't seem all that bright.

I agree that people over rate the need for a DE. Kelsay was a freakin rookie and Denney is in his second year.

R. Rich
12-05-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by BillsMan80
Winfield, not bad, but I'll go head to head with you...

HC-Romeo Crennel
-Brings in knowledge of the Pats and Belichick's schemes, and not to mention has done a great job. Would be able to enstill some discipline too.

OC-Les Steckel
-Has experience, and will not be afraid to run the ball.

Keep Coaching Staff on offense except for Pat Ruel. Possibly move Dan Neal to OL Coach, because he played there in his NFL Days.

Keep the Defensive Coaching Staff.

FA-Sign DE Eric Hicks.
OC Damien Woody.
WR Dennis Northcutt.
Resign CB Antoine Winfield.

Draft.

1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami
-On the same page with most here. Feel that he would be an instant playmaker in this defense. Him and Milloy would bring fear into receivers to go across the middle against us, and with the addition of Hicks would give our corners solid support.

2. Cody Pickett, QB, Washington
-Underrated player. Excellent arm, and a terrific athlete. Struggled some, but I think a player with a huge upside. From what I've seen, he has a much better arm than Tuiasosopo, and is just as mobile.

3. Adrien Clarke, OG, Ohio State
-A big, tough, physical, and athletic mauler out of Ohio State. Just the opposite of Pussywillow. Is a road grader, but is also pretty athletic for being 6-5, 355. Talented player, and one who would start for us immediately.

4. Kris Wilson, TE, Pittsburgh
-Not the best blocking TE out there, but that is what we have right now, 2 blocking TEs. Wilson is an exceptional receiver, and has terrific athletic ability. Would be an excellent H-back if opting that way.

5a. John Standeford, WR, Purdue
-Not the quickest WR out there, but the stats don't lie. He's an awfully productive player. Outstanding hands, and will get open a lot. Big, physical player standing at 6-4, 205. A bigger, and faster version of Ricky Phroel probably.

5b. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
-I know, you are asking who, and from where? Well, he was a 2002 transfer from Duke, and there he had a great year with 12 sacks in the ACC on the league's worst team. Big, strong player at POA, and will be a solid player.

6. Tommy Kelly, DT, Mississippi State
-Went to Hinds CC, and sounds a lot like Tyrone Robertson right? Well, this kid is big, 6-6, 303, and runs a 4.88 40. Good speed and athletic ability for a player of his size. Is a pretty good pass rusher, but can also stuff the run. Needs time to develop, but the finished product will be good.

Once again, I'd like to keep the structure of the staff pretty close to what it was, without GW and KG. I too think we have a solid team, and we are just picking up some loose ends in FA.


Not bad. I don't want Crennel as a head coach though. I'd rather see Nick Saban brought in or Walt Harris. I like the Wilson pick. Good value if he's there in the 4th. I would probably select LB Maurice Jones of South Florida at 5b and look for Johnson as an UFA. That way, we get two playmakers who could potentially help us in the pass rush and also on special teams. Kelly reminds me a lot of James Lee of Oregon State from last year's draft. An interesting prospect, but has been inconsistent and unable to play to his potential to date. Then again, get him a good coach and that could change.

All in all, a nice draft.

I like the free agency choices. I've been saying we should go after Hicks for a while now. He hasn't had a great season in a while, sure, but the guy has been battling injuries for a few seasons. He's healthy now, and is producing. Woody is a solid center (other than problems with the shotgun snap) who would improve the OL by leaps and bounds. I'd probably go with Cory Withrow, a highly regarded backup to Pro Bowl C Matt Birk in Minnesota, but that's just me. With the cap room saved, I'd make a play for Darrel Jackson instead of Northcutt, though Northcutt is no slouch at all.

If your scenario happened, I wouldn't complain.

ryven
12-05-2003, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by R. Rich



Not bad. I don't want Crennel as a head coach though. I'd rather see Nick Saban brought in or Walt Harris. I like the Wilson pick. Good value if he's there in the 4th. I would probably select LB Maurice Jones of South Florida at 5b and look for Johnson as an UFA. That way, we get two playmakers who could potentially help us in the pass rush and also on special teams. Kelly reminds me a lot of James Lee of Oregon State from last year's draft. An interesting prospect, but has been inconsistent and unable to play to his potential to date. Then again, get him a good coach and that could change.

All in all, a nice draft.

I like the free agency choices. I've been saying we should go after Hicks for a while now. He hasn't had a great season in a while, sure, but the guy has been battling injuries for a few seasons. He's healthy now, and is producing. Woody is a solid center (other than problems with the shotgun snap) who would improve the OL by leaps and bounds. I'd probably go with Cory Withrow, a highly regarded backup to Pro Bowl C Matt Birk in Minnesota, but that's just me. With the cap room saved, I'd make a play for Darrel Jackson instead of Northcutt, though Northcutt is no slouch at all.

If your scenario happened, I wouldn't complain.

I have never seen Withrow play but he seems abit small only listed at 281 but thats my only concern though he has a huge advantage learning under a probowler.

Dozerdog
12-05-2003, 12:06 PM
Centers usualy are the smallest guys on the line. They rarely take on the DT's one on one. They are usually shorter than the other linemen too. (Tough for QB's to see around them)

justasportsfan
12-05-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by The Natrix

I agree that people over rate the need for a DE. Kelsay was a freakin rookie and Denney is in his second year.

You at least want signs that Denney and Kelsay have what it takes. They haven't shown anything. Kelsay of course is hardly used and if he can't beat out Denney by the end of the year, we need to find a stud DE.

Miami had a great pas rush last year and they were ranked up there in passing D. Both cb's were in the probowl because of their pass rush. This year, Jason Taylor is no where to be found and theid pas D is at the bottom.

Our pass rush was horrible last year and you guys remember how we got burned time and again. Both Winfield and Clements? This year our pass rush is decent compared to last year and we are at the top in pass D.

Drafting a great college safety isn't gonna do anything without a pass rush.
I say we need to get a better DE and although we are at the top in pass D we our not close in D turnovers especially by our db's.

R. Rich
12-05-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by justasportsfan
You at least want signs that Denney and Kelsay have what it takes. They haven't shown anything. Kelsay of course is hardly used and if he can't beat out Denney by the end of the year, we need to find a stud DE.

Miami had a great pas rush last year and they were ranked up there in passing D. Both cb's were in the probowl because of their pass rush. This year, Jason Taylor is no where to be found and theid pas D is at the bottom.

Our pass rush was horrible last year and you guys remember how we got burned time and again. Both Winfield and Clements? This year our pass rush is decent compared to last year and we are at the top in pass D.

Drafting a great college safety isn't gonna do anything without a pass rush.
I say we need to get a better DE and although we are at the top in pass D we our not close in D turnovers especially by our db's.

I agree that we need a pass rushing DE, however there is NONE in the draft with as much potential as Sean Taylor has at safety. We can find a pass rusher in free agency as good as the draft class, if not better. I'd take Eric Hicks over Will Smith because Hicks is a known quantity while Smith is not. Other than Udeze, none of the top names at DE impress me enough to give up on Taylor.

justasportsfan
12-05-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by R. Rich


I agree that we need a pass rushing DE, however there is NONE in the draft with as much potential as Sean Taylor has at safety. We can find a pass rusher in free agency as good as the draft class, if not better. I'd take Eric Hicks over Will Smith because Hicks is a known quantity while Smith is not. Other than Udeze, none of the top names at DE impress me enough to give up on Taylor.

I have no problem w/ the Sean Taylor pick. I'd rather get a FA DE rather than a risk/project from the draft anyways.


5b. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware

Why draft a 5th rd. DE when we just drafted a DE who was supposedly a 1st rd. talent?

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by BillsMan80
Winfield, not bad, but I'll go head to head with you...

HC-Romeo Crennel
-Brings in knowledge of the Pats and Belichick's schemes, and not to mention has done a great job. Would be able to enstill some discipline too.

OC-Les Steckel
-Has experience, and will not be afraid to run the ball.

Keep Coaching Staff on offense except for Pat Ruel. Possibly move Dan Neal to OL Coach, because he played there in his NFL Days.

Keep the Defensive Coaching Staff.

FA-Sign DE Eric Hicks.
OC Damien Woody.
WR Dennis Northcutt.
Resign CB Antoine Winfield.

Draft.

1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami
-On the same page with most here. Feel that he would be an instant playmaker in this defense. Him and Milloy would bring fear into receivers to go across the middle against us, and with the addition of Hicks would give our corners solid support.

2. Cody Pickett, QB, Washington
-Underrated player. Excellent arm, and a terrific athlete. Struggled some, but I think a player with a huge upside. From what I've seen, he has a much better arm than Tuiasosopo, and is just as mobile.

3. Adrien Clarke, OG, Ohio State
-A big, tough, physical, and athletic mauler out of Ohio State. Just the opposite of Pussywillow. Is a road grader, but is also pretty athletic for being 6-5, 355. Talented player, and one who would start for us immediately.

4. Kris Wilson, TE, Pittsburgh
-Not the best blocking TE out there, but that is what we have right now, 2 blocking TEs. Wilson is an exceptional receiver, and has terrific athletic ability. Would be an excellent H-back if opting that way.

5a. John Standeford, WR, Purdue
-Not the quickest WR out there, but the stats don't lie. He's an awfully productive player. Outstanding hands, and will get open a lot. Big, physical player standing at 6-4, 205. A bigger, and faster version of Ricky Phroel probably.

5b. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
-I know, you are asking who, and from where? Well, he was a 2002 transfer from Duke, and there he had a great year with 12 sacks in the ACC on the league's worst team. Big, strong player at POA, and will be a solid player.

6. Tommy Kelly, DT, Mississippi State
-Went to Hinds CC, and sounds a lot like Tyrone Robertson right? Well, this kid is big, 6-6, 303, and runs a 4.88 40. Good speed and athletic ability for a player of his size. Is a pretty good pass rusher, but can also stuff the run. Needs time to develop, but the finished product will be good.

Once again, I'd like to keep the structure of the staff pretty close to what it was, without GW and KG. I too think we have a solid team, and we are just picking up some loose ends in FA.

OK first Im gonna address the FA you picked:
WR Dennis Northcutt-
In his first two seasons he did absolutely nothing (57 catches for 633 yds and 0 TD's). Last year he breaks out 38 catches for 601 yards and 5TD's. Thats not really breaking out but it appears to be for this kid. This season 48 catches (career high) but only 502 yards and 2 TD's. Also his PR returns have sucked every year but last year. Plus hes only 5-11. Last year in Reed's rookie season he had 37 receptions for 509 yards and 2 TD's. This season Reed leads our team in receptions at 49 (tied with EM) and has 1 TD with a total of 518 yards. Bobby Shaw this season has 44 catches for 593 yards and 3 TD's (most of any receiver). The only thing Northcutt would supply us with would be a possible deep threat and since he cant even do that in Cleveland what makes you guys think he can do that here?

DE Eric Hicks-
This season he is doing subpar with only 45 tackles and 4 sacks. Aaron Schobel has 7.5, and Denney has 1.5. I think that the improvement Hicks will bring would be minimal due to the fact that he hasnt returned to his 2000 form, even though last year he had 9.0 sacks. With the addition of DE Vonnie Holiday his production has actually decreased which doesnt make much sense with the addition of another good DE. Which kinda worries me as to what we would have to pay for him and the type of production we would get.

Now for the Draft Picks:
1. Taylor I like alot
2. Pickett-I dont like the kid. He may the intangibles of a true NFL QB, but he doesnt have the leadership abilities or the heart to be a true NFL star QB. Better pick (DT Martin Lavalais)
3-5. All solid picks but would prefer Morant over Standeford if possible. Nice selection of Wilson. Johnson looks like a good sleeper pick too.
6. Kelly-since I took DT in round 2, I would go QB here, and I would take a kid Rich mentioned earlier who I have been reading up on and that is Robert Kent out of Jackson St. Hes 6-5 221 and probably the fastes QB in the draft. Great Arm and accuracy. He is no where near ready and his throwing motion needs to be overhauled but since I doubt we get rid of Bledsoe at all next season he will have a whole season to learn under one of the best deep ball passers in NFL history.

Staff:
Dont like Cremel as HC would rather go D for HC. Defense wins games not O in my mind. I really like Lovie Smith. Also good call on dumping Ruel he blows too!

HenryRules
12-05-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Winfield_26


What FA would you like? Dennis Northcutt? Wast of money IMO. Hed be our 4th and for his price hes a waste. Improvement on the line, a solid coaching scheme, and a new year I think helps us to get a more accurate view of what are WR situation is. Each has had glimpses this year, as has Campbell and Neufield. I think our core is good, there are no good WR in FA worth the money it would take to get a #2 WR in here. We can all dream of TO but lets be reasonable, SF is gonna franchise him.

Aside from Jackson and Northcutt, I don't know any of the FA WRs out there. I do think that Jackson is going to come free and is worth the money to sign. Northcutt would work as well ... I'd have at least as much faith with him on the field as I do with Shaw and Reed right now. So those would be the two FAs that I like.

I have no idea at all which TE's are coming out, but I do know that I think Campbell and Neufield are bottom-of-the-league quality starters so it shouldn't be too hard to find an upgrade (although if we sign Jackson or Northcutt, I don't think it's necessary).

I think that we are ready to contend next year and in a contending year, I do not want to have to rely upon a WR stepping up. If Reed steps up and proves he should be a #2 ... great!! With him, Jackson, Moulds, and Shaw we'd have a WR corps to challenge the Cowboys for depth and way better in terms of talent. But if Reed doesn't step up and Jackson/Northcutt don't sign, we're back to where we are this year with one of the bottom 10 groups of WRs in the NFL.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 06:00 PM
Reed leads the team in catches tied with Moulds, hes eclipsed all numbers from last year and Bledsoe is havent near the same year. Shaw is having a good year too, 2nd on the team in receiving yards and 1st in TD's. Look above to see what I think of Northcutt and I dont think Jackson is gonna be as easy to get as we all like to think. I would love to bring him in though.

R. Rich
12-05-2003, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by Winfield_26
Staff:
Dont like Cremel as HC would rather go D for HC. Defense wins games not O in my mind. I really like Lovie Smith. Also good call on dumping Ruel he blows too!


Winfield, Romeo Crennel IS the defensive coordinator of the Patriots. You might be thinking of Charlie Weiss, their offensive coordinator.

HenryRules
12-05-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by Winfield_26
Reed leads the team in catches tied with Moulds, hes eclipsed all numbers from last year and Bledsoe is havent near the same year. Shaw is having a good year too, 2nd on the team in receiving yards and 1st in TD's. Look above to see what I think of Northcutt and I dont think Jackson is gonna be as easy to get as we all like to think. I would love to bring him in though.

Reed may have a lot of catches, but his play has been too erratic for us to rely on him as a #2 next year. Shaw is no better than a #3 - he's proven that time and again. With the amount that we pass, an injury to Moulds and no depth at WR at all, Reed and Shaw are bound to put up a high number of receptions/yards. But when I watch them individually, neither has impressed me on a consistent basis.

I have no concerns about either Reed or Shaw being our #3, but I don't want either to be our #2.

DraftBoy
12-05-2003, 07:45 PM
Erratic play by WR, Erratic play by QB, Erratic play by the whole team. This year is not a good year to guage talent if we are speaking on offensive terms, b.c you might as well just dump the whole damn offense aside from Henry. The rest havent done jack.

Sparda
12-05-2003, 09:16 PM
Looks good but could be some changes.

HenryRules
12-06-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Winfield_26
Erratic play by WR, Erratic play by QB, Erratic play by the whole team. This year is not a good year to guage talent if we are speaking on offensive terms, b.c you might as well just dump the whole damn offense aside from Henry. The rest havent done jack.

So your solution, aside from two OL, is to just hope that everything works out in the end?

DraftBoy
12-07-2003, 04:50 PM
We dont need much else in my opinion.