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  • juice
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 3538

    Labeau stealing Grays' light

    Gray has the "D" playing top 3 ball why is Labeau getting Soo much credit for his contribution when his blitz schemes didn't have much effect until the Giants game? ACC Basketball


    "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76
  • IHateTheDullphins
    New and Improved!!
    • Aug 2003
    • 1230

    #2
    Gray has been getting all the credit, bro. DL and Gray have a great working relationship. There has been some articles on the net about Gray and how well he is doing, one even suggests that he may be a candidate for HC.
    Leads? Yeah, sure. I'll...uh...just check with the boys down at the crimelab. Yeah, they got four more detectives on the case....we're working in shifts!"

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    • Dozerdog
      In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

      Administrator Emeritus
      • Jul 2002
      • 42586

      #3
      Originally posted by juice
      Gray has the "D" playing top 3 ball why is Labeau getting Soo much credit for his contribution when his blitz schemes didn't have much effect until the Giants game? ACC Basketball
      I'm not sold on Gray- his defenses stunk the previous 2 seasons- he tried to implement a defense in which we did not have the talent to run. Instead of simplifying it, he still stuck to a 46 defense that continually got torched.

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      • Dozerdog
        In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

        Administrator Emeritus
        • Jul 2002
        • 42586

        #4
        LeBeau got here and fixedup a lot of problems. I'd have to see Gray do it on his own before I'm sold on him

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        • IHateTheDullphins
          New and Improved!!
          • Aug 2003
          • 1230

          #5
          Originally posted by Dozerdog
          LeBeau got here and fixedup a lot of problems. I'd have to see Gray do it on his own before I'm sold on him
          I agree
          Leads? Yeah, sure. I'll...uh...just check with the boys down at the crimelab. Yeah, they got four more detectives on the case....we're working in shifts!"

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          • juice
            Registered User
            • Aug 2003
            • 3538

            #6
            Originally posted by IHateTheDullphins
            Gray has been getting all the credit, bro. DL and Gray have a great working relationship. There has been some articles on the net about Gray and how well he is doing, one even suggests that he may be a candidate for HC.
            I dont think it will happen as far as HC, He'll hit the same obstacles as Cottrell, and he had alot more support for HC than Gray. A year or two ago many were calling for his head. What happens with a staff turnover, that could be why this defense is playing soo well, they want to secure his job.


            "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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            • BillsNick
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 3898

              #7
              This might be why keeping GW but dumping KG would be the best overall option for us. The major problem is KG.

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              • juice
                Registered User
                • Aug 2003
                • 3538

                #8
                Originally posted by Dozerdog
                I'm not sold on Gray- his defenses stunk the previous 2 seasons- he tried to implement a defense in which we did not have the talent to run. Instead of simplifying it, he still stuck to a 46 defense that continually got torched.
                The team stunk those two years, bring in the talent we got the results. Poor London Fletcher, I thought those blocking fullbacks were going to end his career last year. He should have adjusted for talent level but the Zone Blitz has come up short and Posey has almost disappeared in pass rushing.


                "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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                • justasportsfan
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71614

                  #9
                  Originally posted by juice


                  The team stunk those two years, bring in the talent we got the results. Poor London Fletcher, I thought those blocking fullbacks were going to end his career last year. He should have adjusted for talent level but the Zone Blitz has come up short and Posey has almost disappeared in pass rushing.
                  We had the best lb's in the league last Sunday. Fletch, Spikes and Posey were all over the field. With a stud DE, this D could carry the team to the sb just like the ravens if the O decides to run of course.
                  sacrifice1
                  https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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                  • juice
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 3538

                    #10
                    Posey was bought in as a Pass Rushing specialists, a Sackman, if he were playing that role DE play may not have hurt us as much earlier in the year. Shoebel is balling now and we seem to be blitzing 5'10 Fletcher who can be handled by any blocking FB or RB. ACC


                    "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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                    • justasportsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71614

                      #11
                      Originally posted by juice
                      Posey was bought in as a Pass Rushing specialists, a Sackman, if he were playing that role DE play may not have hurt us as much earlier in the year. Shoebel is balling now and we seem to be blitzing 5'10 Fletcher who can be handled by any blocking FB or RB. ACC
                      thing is , he isn't being used as a pass rush . for what we are paying Posey I say he's a good pick-up.
                      sacrifice1
                      https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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                      • BillsNick
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3898

                        #12
                        I like Posey, he's made some good plays for us this year (quietly).

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                        • Dozerdog
                          In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

                          Administrator Emeritus
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 42586

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BillsNick
                          This might be why keeping GW but dumping KG would be the best overall option for us. The major problem is KG.
                          Why give Williams a third chance to hire the wrong OC?

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                          • kill4bills
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 48

                            #14
                            gray never had the talent he has this year. lokk at what the bengals are doing now with worse talent than they had last year with lebeau. lebeau is helping but dont make him the HC or evenDC unless we want to be the laughing stock of the league

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                            • BillsNick
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3898

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dozerdog


                              Why give Williams a third chance to hire the wrong OC?
                              I think that it's the lesser of two evils.

                              1- We dump GW and KG. New HC is hired, he intern overhauls the staff. The staff implements their new schemes and ideas. This worries me because, while this could still work out in the future, these things tend to disrupt team chemistry and cohesiveness.

                              2-We keep the staff mostly intact, except for KG, he's a goner. We bring in a new OC or promote someone frome within the ranks (Les Steckle) thereby maintaining the chemistry formed in this year, and keeping us on track for a big 04' season.

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