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None of the above. Promote LeBeau, install Steckel as OC, hire a QB coach. LeBeau and Steckel have familiarity with the players and could provide some continuity. After all, most of the Bills' difficulties came from an intransigent OC who loved his "system" more than he loved production. LeBeau would have the support of TD in obtaining the missing pieces, either in FA or through the draft that he never had with Mike Brown in Cincy.
Someone said "What's he gonna turn out like?" Ha!
And someone else said "Never mind!"
-Deep Purple
"Have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?"--Ron White
Originally posted by shadowfax nick saban | dennis green | tom coughlin
Ingtar? you out there? thoughts?
Well, if money and wanting power over player personell were not an issue- I'd take Nick Saban. He's going to be the next big time coach- in the Bellichick mold (but a lot more personality)
Next would be Coughlin. His no- nonsense approach will get this team disciplined.
Dennis Green is an option, but I feel he brings in some baggage. He has put together 10 winning seasons with 10 different starting QB's
Originally posted by helmetguy None of the above. Promote LeBeau, install Steckel as OC, hire a QB coach. LeBeau and Steckel have familiarity with the players and could provide some continuity. After all, most of the Bills' difficulties came from an intransigent OC who loved his "system" more than he loved production. LeBeau would have the support of TD in obtaining the missing pieces, either in FA or through the draft that he never had with Mike Brown in Cincy.
I think "familiarity of the system" is way overrated. The system sucks. Start fresh. Changing the cosmetics on the pig still makes it a pig in makeup.
Originally posted by Dozerdog I think "familiarity of the system" is way overrated. The system sucks. Start fresh. Changing the cosmetics on the pig still makes it a pig in makeup.
If a new coach wants them to stay on- so be it
I didn't say "familiarity with the system." I said "familiarity with the PLAYERS." I agree, KG's system sucked, but he's so infatuated with it that he refused to adjust. That's why he's got to go. GW has to go for a laundry list of reasons. Don't mistake "continuity" regarding LeBeau as acceptance of KG's ill conceived "schemes."
Someone said "What's he gonna turn out like?" Ha!
And someone else said "Never mind!"
-Deep Purple
"Have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?"--Ron White
i agree - promote lebeau and get a new offensive system. We have a good defense...why tear that apart? We have to win next year and i believe that by replacing GW and KG we will accomplish that
Originally posted by Dozerdog Changing the cosmetics on the pig still makes it a pig in makeup.
i would take any of them really.. saban would be the most exciting, but because he is new, with no nfl track history.. green would be next in line on that list.. coughlin could be good too
"All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe
Coughlin. He has tons of experience, is a no-nonsense disciplinarian who would get this team going in the right direction, and has said that he wouldn't need to be in charge of player personnel at this point.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Nick Saban would be my first choice. He has head coaching experience in college and coordinator experience in the NFL. I think he is knowledgeable about both offence and defence. Dennis Green is a winner, but has never taken his team to the top. He has a history of not getting along with team management. Tom Coughlin know how to build a winner, but alienates his players. He would be a short term coach because after a few years his players mutiny. I really don't know if Dick LeBeau wants to be an NFL head coach again. He has had the best of both worlds this year, consulting lets him make contributions that helps the defence improve, but he has none of the pressure cooker life of the head coach. Les Steckel is also an option for head coach if he can bring in a decent OC.
I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
I don't think discipline is really the issue. The team does not make a lot of undisciplined mistakes compared to the rest of the teams in the league.
A lot of you seem to like the idea of this tough, no nonsense, jerk coach. You seem to ignore the fact that he was run out of Jacksonville for petty power disputes and widespread dislike for him.
I would take Denny Green, Saban, and maybe Fassel over Coughlin.
As much as I like Nick Saban I really doubt we would pursue him because he is likely to command a high salary and he would want more control over personnel than TD would be willing to give up.
If you guys were to get Nick Saban, I'd be so p*ssed. Luckily, he's rumored to be more interested in the Miami job.
Saban is probably my favorite of any potentially available coach out there. His Cleveland defenses under Belichick were dominant. And his secondaries in Houston were top notch. I think he's going to be a fantastic NFL head coach.
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