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  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
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    Four Simple Rules For This Year's Draft

    1. Do not take a seriously injured player, even if he is the best athlete available.

    2. Do not take the best athlete available period, if we are fairly well set at his position.

    3. Do not take a player at a position of critical need, if he appears not ready to contribute immediately.

    4. Do not expect your QB of the future to come in a late round grab bag.

    The draft is obviously subjective, and we certainly may miss on a player, but adherence to these rules - which are different from the last couple of drafts - will give us a chance to get better, sooner.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
  • The_Philster
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 52180

    #2
    We violated numbers 1 and 2 in 2003
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    • Jan Reimers
      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
      • May 2003
      • 17353

      #3
      Originally posted by The_Philster
      We violated numbers 1 and 2 in 2003
      We also violated number 2 with Reed in 2002, and number 3 with Kelsay in 2003.
      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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      • TigerJ
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 22575

        #4
        I think conventional wisdom in this age of free agency is that you want your first round pick to contribute significantly in his rookie year. Obviously with McGahee, TD knew that would not be the case. When you get to rounds two and three, it depends on where your team is in development. The worst team in the league had better get starters in the first three rounds. The best team in the league may get a starter in round one and that's it, if the GM has managed to keep the team relatively intact from the year before. Obviously Buffalo needs to get a starter in round one. There have been discussions elsewhere on what positions they should focus on and I'm not going to duplicate that here. I think Buffalo needs to get a starter from rounds two or three, two starters if Buffalo ends up with an extra draft choice as some have been predicting.
        I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

        I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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        • Dozerdog
          In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

          Administrator Emeritus
          • Jul 2002
          • 42587

          #5
          Originally posted by Jan Reimers
          1. Do not take a seriously injured player, even if he is the best athlete available.

          2. Do not take the best athlete available period, if we are fairly well set at his position.

          3. Do not take a player at a position of critical need, if he appears not ready to contribute immediately.

          4. Do not expect your QB of the future to come in a late round grab bag.

          The draft is obviously subjective, and we certainly may miss on a player, but adherence to these rules - which are different from the last couple of drafts - will give us a chance to get better, sooner.
          Soooo... pass on blue chip potential pro bowlers (if available) to take a player at a position and draft slot that he's not projected to go, just because we have a hole to fill.

          Makes sense to me.

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          • Jan Reimers
            Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
            • May 2003
            • 17353

            #6
            Originally posted by Dozerdog
            Soooo... pass on blue chip potential pro bowlers (if available) to take a player at a position and draft slot that he's not projected to go, just because we have a hole to fill.

            Makes sense to me.
            Yeah - or we'll be rebuilding and hoping for players to reach their potential until Hell freezes over. We've missed the playoffs 4 years in a row, waiting for McGahee, Reed, Williams, Denney, Edwards, Kelsay and others to develop into pro bowlers.

            Screw potential. Let's draft some players that we actually need and can produce something besides future promise.

            I'm not as young as you, Dozer. I'd like to see us make the playoffs again before I croak.
            Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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            • Dozerdog
              In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

              Administrator Emeritus
              • Jul 2002
              • 42587

              #7
              Young as me?


              Unless you are EE's age- I doubt it

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              • Ebenezer
                Give me a minute...
                • Jul 2002
                • 73868

                #8
                Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                Screw potential. Let's draft some players that we actually need and can produce something besides future promise.
                How many non-1st rounds contribute their first year, let alone make a significant impact...very, very few.




                For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.

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                • Jan Reimers
                  Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                  • May 2003
                  • 17353

                  #9
                  I was already in high school when the Bills came to town in 1960.
                  Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                  • Mr. Miyagi
                    Lecter's Little *****

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 53616

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                    I'm not as young as you, Dozer. I'd like to see us make the playoffs again before I croak.

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                    • hwc
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 29

                      #11
                      Re: Four Simple Rules For This Year's Draft

                      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                      1. Do not take a seriously injured player, even if he is the best athlete available.
                      Unless doing so will garner the most headlines for your media-hog GM.

                      IMO, wasting a 1st round pick on a McGahee was the most arrogant, stupid decision of the year.

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                      • Ebenezer
                        Give me a minute...
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 73868

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hwc
                        IMO, wasting a 1st round pick on a McGahee was the most arrogant, stupid decision of the year.
                        call us in two or three years and we can discuss it further.




                        For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.

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                        • Jan Reimers
                          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          As I said in another post, drafting McGahee at the time wasn't so bad, in that we didn't realize how poor we were going to be on the O line, at WR, and at FS.

                          We now know how many holes we need to plug, and should draft with those very real problem areas in mind, not with a best-athlete-available-even-if-he's-injured mindset.
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • stuckincincy
                            Buffalo Bills Fan
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 15084

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                            As I said in another post, drafting McGahee at the time wasn't so bad, in that we didn't realize how poor we were going to be on the O line, at WR, and at FS.

                            We now know how many holes we need to plug, and should draft with those very real problem areas in mind, not with a best-athlete-available-even-if-he's-injured mindset.
                            I have to differ here a bit, Jan.

                            It's hard to think that they didn't realize that center/guard needed some help. I was quite mad when they passed on OG Steinback. Faine was picked just before the bills, by CLE.

                            OK about Kelsay, we'll see.

                            There's another school of draft thought,
                            in which one tends to draft to one's team strengths. If for example, you have a good O-Line, then that's something you now can depend upon, so continue to strengthen that position to eliminate worries in coming seasons...as the bills did in the Kelly and Fergie years. Or as Denver did at RB.
                            Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                            • Mr. Miyagi
                              Lecter's Little *****

                              • Sep 2002
                              • 53616

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stuckincincy
                              Or as Denver did at RB.
                              That's what we did with McGahee. At the time we had a healthy Henry, Morris, Gary, Burns and Simonton.

                              Results:
                              Henry got hurt (though he still played well)
                              Morris got hurt
                              Gary traded
                              Burns sucked
                              Simonton benched, released and resigned (back to bench)

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