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eyedog
01-11-2004, 02:38 PM
You were saying something the last couple of days about the qb talents of Manning vs McNair ?

NOT EVEN CLOSE.

zone
01-11-2004, 02:42 PM
McNair is practically cripeled right now though.... they both have amazing lines, and recievers.

eyedog
01-11-2004, 02:47 PM
McNair took three delay of game penalties last night. What is that ? Nice game management.

Gunzlingr
01-11-2004, 03:09 PM
I am moving this to NFL News, nothing to do with the Bills.

WagonCircler
01-11-2004, 03:10 PM
I'm SOOOOO sick of hearing how "tough" McNair is. Has he EVER played a game that he wasn't limping or had the flu or had a creaky neck or turf-toe or crippling dandruff......

Seems to me that the real tough guys get hurt and nobody knows about it.

Tough is going into that human decibal chamber in KC and shutting everyone up, or beating your "co-MVP" twice in head to head competition.

McNair is MVP all-right. Most Valuable Pretender.

SABURZFAN
01-11-2004, 03:11 PM
manning stats in the playoffs......

44-56 681 yards 8 TD 0 INT


that's impressive stuff.

eyedog
01-11-2004, 03:12 PM
ouch ! Preach !

Dozerdog
01-11-2004, 03:15 PM
I'd be happy with either at the helm. It's like arguing between Batman and Superman.

WagonCircler
01-11-2004, 03:21 PM
Superman has a better arm than Batman. Period. :D

Oh wait, I have a Batman avatar.

Batman has better pocket presence.

justasportsfan
01-11-2004, 05:09 PM
I think Wonder Woman is hotter than Supergirl.

The_Philster
01-11-2004, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by justasportsfan
I think Wonder Woman is hotter than Supergirl.
Can't argue with that
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tholmes/images/series/wonder/wwoman02.jpg vs. http://www.teachnet-lab.org/ps101/chornik/supergirl.jpg

justasportsfan
01-11-2004, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster

Can't argue with that
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tholmes/images/series/wonder/wwoman02.jpg vs. http://www.teachnet-lab.org/ps101/chornik/supergirl.jpg I think the animation is hotter than those two.

The_Philster
01-11-2004, 05:24 PM
In that case it depends on the artists
http://hometown.aol.com/akirsc5653/myhomepage/diana%20prince%20changes%20into%20wonder%20woman!.gif
vs
http://members.aol.com/warnerart/graphics/supergirl.jpg

Dozerdog
01-11-2004, 05:35 PM
Batgirl wins both hands down

http://www.supanova.com.au/images/ill/batgirl.gif

http://www.bat-hound.com/batgirl/covers/batgirl/images/36-batgirlyo9.jpg

juice
01-12-2004, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by eyedog
You were saying something the last couple of days about the qb talents of Manning vs McNair ?

NOT EVEN CLOSE.
It was McNabb as an MVP candidate or "Overrated media Myth", just think what he could do with a Harrison or Moss, he wouldnt have to run for 100 every game. I had a Question as to whether Manning was his teams MVP or a product of a good offensive system. He looked real good, we'll see how he does against a defense in the playoffs next week. McNair is good but is often injured needs to loose weight. Mr. juice to you Myedog Vanderjack 40 for 40 this season

eyedog
01-12-2004, 08:06 AM
Vanderjact is the best kicker in football. Thats right, KICKER.
Manning is on fire right now. I'm sure New England will slow him down, but I think the Colts are gonna win that game.
McNair is always hurt. Thats part of the game. Farve has been hurt all year too.
I'm not a big McNabb fan, but I'll give him his props for yesterdays win. Very lucky, but a win is a win. I think he should scramble and run more, instead of less as a lot of people have been calling for. When he scrambles he is dangerous, keep him in the pocket and I don't think he is very good. He's a great runner though. I also think Philly loses to Carolina.

zone
01-12-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by juice
a product of a good offensive system.

exactly! when you line gives you all day and your recievers get wide open on there routes, its kinda hard to be bad.

zone
01-12-2004, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by eyedog
I'm not a big McNabb fan, but I'll give him his props for yesterdays win. Very lucky, but a win is a win. I think he should scramble and run more, instead of less as a lot of people have been calling for. When he scrambles he is dangerous, keep him in the pocket and I don't think he is very good. He's a great runner though. I also think Philly loses to Carolina.

He has got a pretty nice arm to boot, I think running makes him more confident in the pocket.

juice
01-12-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by zone
exactly! when you line gives you all day and your recievers get wide open on there routes, its kinda hard to be bad.

Not to mention a top 5 playoff RB putting up a 130 yds ave 5 ypc, how much pressure did KC put on him? Bills fans know what Petyon can do when given time. Its the Quadruplets with Vanderjack. Can you name a Philly reciever? What about the starting RB this week? Mcnabb makes people around him good, Peyton is soo good because of the people and system around him. I guess I'm saying he might be Overrated and the system around him are certainly Underrated. Dungy's no name defense and Vanderjack as team co-MVP

eyedog
01-12-2004, 10:23 AM
Who do you think is calling 90% of those plays at the line of scrimmage ? He seems to always have them in the right play at the right time, and very rarely gets caught in a delay of game penalty. He knows where he's going with the ball and has the quick release to get it out.
Dungy's defense as the co-mvp ? LOL. That defense will be what stops them from winning it all if they don't do it.

zone
01-12-2004, 10:36 AM
There D is terrible.

You can call any play you have in your playbook and if your line blocks everyone and your receivers get open it’s going to work. It’s called perfect execution. Don’t get me wrong he throws a nice ball, but it’s hard to be bad when your team is clicking on all cylinders. It also does not help that KC defense might have had the worst breakdown of the whole year. I mean receivers were having 15-20 yards of open space.

juice
01-12-2004, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by eyedog
Who do you think is calling 90% of those plays at the line of scrimmage ? He seems to always have them in the right play at the right time, and very rarely gets caught in a delay of game penalty. He knows where he's going with the ball and has the quick release to get it out.
Dungy's defense as the co-mvp ? LOL. That defense will be what stops them from winning it all if they don't do it.

Manning does his homework, But next week he will have to deal with heat, then you will see how good of a playoff QB he is.

mybills
01-12-2004, 06:14 PM
Peyton Manning Rocks! :up: I love to watch him. I love how he messes with the D. I'd love to have him here in Buffalo! :up:

juice
01-12-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by mybills
Peyton Manning Rocks! :up: I love to watch him. I love how he messes with the D. I'd love to have him here in Buffalo! :up:

Peyton is tough, I'd rather have McNabb and his athletic ability, Size and speed cant be tought, plus he has a rifle.

juice
01-18-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by eyedog
You were saying something the last couple of days about the qb talents of Manning vs McNair ?

NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Manning four INT., Lets see what McNabb can do against a "D" ACC