I was loooking on ESPN at some notes from Scouts, Inc and found some very interesting observations in some of the passing drills between Losman and Rivers, two guys who have been talked about a lot here recently. Here's some info from Thursday's workout:
Philip Rivers:
Thursday (1/22/04): Rivers was the most consistent of the
three North quarterbacks on passing drills this afternoon. He
doesn't get the RPMs on the deep out route that J.P. Losman
does, but he throws a heavier ball that actually might fare
better in adverse conditions. A guy like Losman, who played
most of his college career in a dome, gets great zip on his
throws, which enables his ball to get to the spot quicker when
there isn't wind to deal with. But Rivers puts more "thrust"
into his throws, which results in less rotations, but also
keeps the nose of the ball steady and allows it to cut through
the wind better. With all that said, Rivers doesn't have the
same velocity on his deep out passes, but he shows adequate
arm strength and better-than-average accuracy. He also shows a
much better ability to throw a change-up on shorter touch
routes than Losman does. Matt Schaub threw the most accurate
underneath routes in drills, but Rivers was a close second and
Losman was a distant third.
J.P. Losman
Thursday (1/22/04):
Losman had some ups and downs in what was
an afternoon dedicated to a lot of passing drills. He, Phillip
Rivers and Matt Schaub spent a lot of time in individual
drills with their quarterback coach trying to hit spots on
different throws. Losman showed the best velocity on the deep
out passes (15-20 yards from the middle of the field to the
sideline) and he was perfectly accurate on all but one of his
attempts. However, when the three quarterbacks worked on
shorter seven-yard out routes, Losman struggled a little bit
more. It seems as if Losman has trouble making precise throws.
He doesn't show great touch underneath, and he still has some
work to do in terms of changing his velocity.
So, if for sake of argument, you have to make a decision between these 2 guys, give me Rivers hands down. The last thing we need is another Bledsoe clone who has no touch on short-to-medium routes. If Rivers can throw accurate, short passes and can throw in the wind, he may be the ideal candidate to play in the Buffalo climate. Long passes depend so much on the receiver going after the ball, I'm willing to give up some skill in that area, rather than risk having a QB who can throw the ball a mile, but wigs out with the short stuff. Comments? :)
Link to the info: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/featur...niorbowl/index
Philip Rivers:
Thursday (1/22/04): Rivers was the most consistent of the
three North quarterbacks on passing drills this afternoon. He
doesn't get the RPMs on the deep out route that J.P. Losman
does, but he throws a heavier ball that actually might fare
better in adverse conditions. A guy like Losman, who played
most of his college career in a dome, gets great zip on his
throws, which enables his ball to get to the spot quicker when
there isn't wind to deal with. But Rivers puts more "thrust"
into his throws, which results in less rotations, but also
keeps the nose of the ball steady and allows it to cut through
the wind better. With all that said, Rivers doesn't have the
same velocity on his deep out passes, but he shows adequate
arm strength and better-than-average accuracy. He also shows a
much better ability to throw a change-up on shorter touch
routes than Losman does. Matt Schaub threw the most accurate
underneath routes in drills, but Rivers was a close second and
Losman was a distant third.
J.P. Losman
Thursday (1/22/04):
Losman had some ups and downs in what was
an afternoon dedicated to a lot of passing drills. He, Phillip
Rivers and Matt Schaub spent a lot of time in individual
drills with their quarterback coach trying to hit spots on
different throws. Losman showed the best velocity on the deep
out passes (15-20 yards from the middle of the field to the
sideline) and he was perfectly accurate on all but one of his
attempts. However, when the three quarterbacks worked on
shorter seven-yard out routes, Losman struggled a little bit
more. It seems as if Losman has trouble making precise throws.
He doesn't show great touch underneath, and he still has some
work to do in terms of changing his velocity.
So, if for sake of argument, you have to make a decision between these 2 guys, give me Rivers hands down. The last thing we need is another Bledsoe clone who has no touch on short-to-medium routes. If Rivers can throw accurate, short passes and can throw in the wind, he may be the ideal candidate to play in the Buffalo climate. Long passes depend so much on the receiver going after the ball, I'm willing to give up some skill in that area, rather than risk having a QB who can throw the ball a mile, but wigs out with the short stuff. Comments? :)
Link to the info: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/featur...niorbowl/index
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