Marcus Vick Arrested!

[Tatonka]

i dont have a link yet, but on local radio, i just heard that Marcus Vick was arrested today in Blacksburg, VA. They said that they did a search warrant on his apartment, and found video footage and digital pictures of Vick w/ a 15 year old girl. Supposedly, he got her drunk as well.

if anyone can find a link on this, i would appreciate it. i havent found anything yet, but I heard it w/ my own ears.:fury:

[The Spaz]

Not surprising he has money now from his brother he thinks he can do whatever he wants probably, he's invinsible.

[Dozerdog]

http://www.newrivervalley.com/news/0129_news.html

[Tatonka]

apparently, it was 3 girls.. all under age.. just finding info on vtech message boards.

[Dozerdog]

Police search home of Tech QB Marcus Vick

By Shay Wessol

http://www.newrivervalley.com/news/0129_news.html


BLACKSBURG — Town police searched the apartment of Marcus Vick after two teenage girls claimed the Virginia Tech quarterback had sex with their 15-year-old friend after the trio had been drinking liquor and posing for pictures.

Vick, 19, of Blacksburg, has not been charged with any crime. Police are investigating the incident only as contributing to the delinquency of a minor, which is a misdemeanor charge, according to a search warrant affidavit filed Thursday in Montgomery County Circuit Court.

"This is an ongoing investigation," Montgomery County Commonwealth's Attorney Joey Showalter said. "There have been no charges issued. Out of respect for the alleged complainants and the alleged suspects, I cannot comment on the situation."

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker said he had not seen the affidavit and couldn't comment. According to the affidavit, two of the three teenagers told officers Wednesday that they and a third friend spent Tuesday in Vick's apartment on Roanoke Street. Vick shares the apartment with two other players.

Both girls, ages 14 and 15, said the trio was given vodka and rum to drink and that a roommate of Vick's took pictures of them as they "danced and stripped from their clothing," according to the affidavit.

At some point during the party, the two girls claimed Vick took their 15-year-old friend into his bedroom and had sex with her.

[Tatonka]

oh god..

as an alum.. this is just crushing.. it will probably cost vick millions as well.

i believe he is only 19.. so that puts it in a bit more perspective.. but it is still horrible if true.

[Tatonka]

a copy of the warrant..

http://media.gatewayva.com/registerbee/vick/vick1.html

[juice]

If he didn't know how old she was then he might not have a problem besides his choice of drinking and bed buddies. I

If those pictures come into play and he knew how old she was he could get caught up in that child porn mess which carries alot more time than statutory rape.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by juice
If he didn't know how old she was then he might not have a problem besides his choice of drinking and bed buddies. I

If those pictures come into play and he knew how old she was he could get caught up in that child porn mess which carries alot more time than statutory rape.

If he's 19 then he's drinking undrage as well.

He's in a boatload of crap

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by juice
If he didn't know how old she was then he might not have a problem besides his choice of drinking and bed buddies. I

If those pictures come into play and he knew how old she was he could get caught up in that child porn mess which carries alot more time than statutory rape.


there is no way he was partying with three 15 year olds that are in highschool and didnt know beyond a shadow of a doubt how old they are.. they may LOOK 17-18.. but i promise you they dont ACT 18... are you telling me that during the night, he didnt say.. hey, where do you all go to school? whatever.. he's ****ed.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
If he's 19 then he's drinking undrage as well.

He's in a boatload of crap

Underage drinking is the least of his problems if they charge him with Kiddy Porn possesion because of those pictures. And I bet they seized his computer. If they find any kid porn on it you can bet the FEDS will take over. That could be the difference between doin'some time and ending his carreer.

[Dozerdog]

You think he might try to declare for the draft or head to the CFL if the school gives him a Maurice Clarrett like suspension?

[juice]

Originally posted by Tatonka
there is no way he was partying with three 15 year olds that are in highschool and didnt know beyond a shadow of a doubt how old they are.. they may LOOK 17-18.. but i promise you they dont ACT 18... are you telling me that during the night, he didnt say.. hey, where do you all go to school? whatever.. he's ****ed.

You might not know if you didn't ask or they lied about their age, a lot of them do it. Still we cant be too quick to Judge this young man.

[Ingtar33]

this one could ruin him...

I know Frank Beamer, if this story is true.... and even if Vick isn't charged for child porn and statutory rape, he'll likely never play ball again for VT...

However before you shed any tears for Vick and the mess he just made for his life, lets remember the true victims here, the children who were maliciously taken advantage of, by adult men. The reason these laws are in place is because children can't be expected to make intelligent decisions for themselves... the law makes very few exceptions for adults who take advantage of children, and i hope, if a crime was committed he and those other players spend serious time in jail for this.

In cases like this, even if the girls were stripping for these men and begging for sex, they as adults have not just a moral, but legal duty to make those girls put their clothing back on and go home. Who but a sick pervert takes advantage of impressionable children like this?

And they are sick, as im certain they would have no difficulty finding any number of co-eds who would have been glad to strip for them and do other things, to liquor up children, and take advantage of them is the definition of depraved, and I hope they burn in their own private hells for this.

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
You think he might try to declare for the draft or head to the CFL if the school gives him a Maurice Clarrett like suspension?

No friggen way.. i see all of techs games.. he barely played qb last year.. and when he did, he was average... not a chance.


Originally posted by juice
You might not know if you didn't ask or they lied about their age, a lot of them do it. Still we cant be too quick to Judge this young man.

your right.. but man.. regardless of what the situation was.. this is one of the worst cases of bad judgement i have seen.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
You think he might try to declare for the draft or head to the CFL if the school gives him a Maurice Clarrett like suspension?

What are you getting at, maybe the Bills adding some youth to the QB position? I think alot depends on how strict Va. laws are on these types of crimes. But possible charges of Delinq. of a miner and poss of child porn may have ended his college career.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by juice
What are you getting at, maybe the Bills adding some youth to the QB position? I think alot depends on how strict Va. laws are on these types of crimes. But possible charges of Delinq. of a miner and poss of child porn may have ended his college career.

Juice- some days I just wonder how you get from point "a" to point "b" with all these crazy detours.


Uh, no. I don't want the Bills to draft a 19 year old kid- especially when he's done this.

[juice]

Originally posted by Ingtar33
this one could ruin him...

I know Frank Beamer, if this story is true.... and even if Vick isn't charged for child porn and statutory rape, he'll likely never play ball again for VT...

However before you shed any tears for Vick and the mess he just made for his life, lets remember the true victims here, the children who were maliciously taken advantage of, by adult men. The reason these laws are in place is because children can't be expected to make intelligent decisions for themselves... the law makes very few exceptions for adults who take advantage of children, and i hope, if a crime was committed he and those other players spend serious time in jail for this.

In cases like this, even if the girls were stripping for these men and begging for sex, they as adults have not just a moral, but legal duty to make those girls put their clothing back on and go home. Who but a sick pervert takes advantage of impressionable children like this?

And they are sick, as im certain they would have no difficulty finding any number of co-eds who would have been glad to strip for them and do other things, to liquor up children, and take advantage of them is the definition of depraved, and I hope they burn in their own private hells for this.

I agree about his college career, VT already has a starter anyway but this could ruin his life. Definately bad judgement but we were all that age once and who knows what the whole story is.

I'll reserve judgement.

Was he arrested or was just a search warrant executed on his residence?

[The Spaz]

His life won't be ruined his brother Michael will be able to give him all the money he wants only if he doesn't go to jail though.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
You think he might try to declare for the draft or head to the CFL if the school gives him a Maurice Clarrett like suspension?

Dog- We are talking about a young mans life and not just a college career. If you dont think his biggest problems are those pictures then check the time involved in child pornography.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Juice- some days I just wonder how you get from point "a" to point "b" with all these crazy detours.


Uh, no. I don't want the Bills to draft a 19 year old kid- especially when he's done this.

You bought the Question of draft status didn't you?

[Dozerdog]

I didn't make any mention of the Bills using him a s a QB of the future

[BillsOverDolphins]

This is why people shouldn't listen to R. Kelly's music

[BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan]

Didn't the same thing happen here when Travis Henry was a rookie?. He had sex with a 15 yr. old girl and he said that he didn't know that she was only 15 and he only had to do community service or something like that I remember reading.

[The Spaz]

Wasn't caught with pictures an dliquor though I don't think.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
I didn't make any mention of the Bills using him a s a QB of the future

My Question was what are you getting at? Are you concerned with the young mans wellbeing or just his value in the professional world of sports?
Originally posted by Dozerdog
Juice- some days I just wonder how you get from point "a" to point "b" with all these crazy detours.


Uh, no. I don't want the Bills to draft a 19 year old kid- especially when he's done this.

What has this 19 yr old kid done, besides comply with a search warrent. Dont be the Judge and Jury until we get some facts. Was he even arrested?

I get from a to b mostly by luxery cab, Administrator.

If the Bills did draft him he would be at least the second best QB in Buffalo.

[juice]

Originally posted by BillsChampsin04
Didn't the same thing happen here when Travis Henry was a rookie?. He had sex with a 15 yr. old girl and he said that he didn't know that she was only 15 and he only had to do community service or something like that I remember reading.

Quick, we'd better trade him then, he's not Buffalo material anymore.

It's an ACC matter now, we'll handle it internally. We know how to make these little things disappear. By getting some facts.

[juice]

Originally posted by Tatonka
No friggen way.. i see all of techs games.. he barely played qb last year.. and when he did, he was average... not a chance.



your right.. but man.. regardless of what the situation was.. this is one of the worst cases of bad judgement i have seen.

Without a dought, not Quite up there with Kobe because he's young and not married, I want to know if these guys new the girls prior to that day.
Anyone who has been around college athletes know that in the offseason they chase tail, And there isn't a minimum age for some of these scandlous Chick to start hustling.
I'll look for you to post an update when the entire story comes out. But I bet if it's left up to the ACC this little problem might just go away.
The name Vick means alot of revenue to the conference. Hopefully all involved will be ok and he can continue with his life.

[Ð]

I told the MF to stay away from Chevron stations, but did he listen ? - Travis Henry

[Tatonka]

henry's date ended up admitting that she lied to henry about her age, saying that she was 19, and henry as 20... he was lied to, so it was basically forgiven.

we dont know what the situation is with vick.. it could turn out that he thought that these girls were college students there, and assumed that they were 18... who really knows..

[Tatonka]

regardless... i asked my dad, who is a retired cop.. he said that there is NO way that he will be charged with any kind of child pornography.. he said that contributing to the delinquency of a minor and statutory rape would be the worst case sencario.. and being a first time offender, in all likelyhood he will get probation/community service.. basically what henry got.

[Tatonka]

now, how he is treated by the football program and how this effects his football future remains to be seen.

word is that he was going to play WR this year anyway.

[juice]

Originally posted by Tatonka
regardless... i asked my dad, who is a retired cop.. he said that there is NO way that he will be charged with any kind of child pornography.. he said that contributing to the delinquency of a minor and statutory rape would be the worst case sencario.. and being a first time offender, in all likelyhood he will get probation/community service.. basically what henry got.

I'd be interested in seeing the result of the search warrent and what was seized. If he knew their age, I dont know, seems like a can of worms. Look foward to your updates.

[Ð]

But look what they did to marv albert in VA just for a love bite.

[to80td]

Vick is 19. He is pretty much a kid too. Charges for statutory "rape," should be weighed on a sliding scale based on age. The age difference in a 19 and 15 should not be treated the same as a 20 and lets say 12 or 13.

I'm giving Vick the benefit of the doubt.

[Tatonka]

he is a sophmore in college.. i dont want to hear about how his is basically a kid too.

[to80td]

When I was a sophmore in college, I was looking for tail. I never checked ID.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Originally posted by to80td
When I was a sophmore in college, I was looking for tail. I never checked ID. neither do I, but I'm a little more picky about the girls I mess around with now, because of a story that was told to me a couple weeks ago...this is a true story fellas: 5 years ago my cousin's roommmate(whose name I will not say out of respect) was in boarding school in Connecticut. One night, a 14 year old girl, 1 week shy of 15 crawled through his window and into his bed. He was 1 week over 18. Well, as you can tell, they had sex and it was a bad experience for her. When the school found out, he was asked to leave. The parents of the girl didn't press charges then. He finished his senior year back home at MD, with his mom home-schooling him.

5 days before the 5 year statute of limitations was up, the parents of the girl pressed charges against him. He was convicted of rape, and sentenced to 4-5 years in prison. The parents are plea-bargaining as we speak. Just goes to show how ****ed up these cases really are.

I've met this kid before too, he's a blond haired, skinny, innocent-looking kid. I can't imagine what it would be like for him in a Maximum Security prison.

[juice]

Originally posted by Tatonka
he is a sophmore in college.. i dont want to hear about how his is basically a kid too.

How mature were we our So. year in college? Where I went to school, If this would have happened to a starting QB, you would have never heard about it. My how times have changed.

The players I knew did this type of thing (Wild Parties/Orgies) every thurday-saturday in the off season and after every game. That type behavior has always existed in college sports.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by juice

The players I knew did this type of thing (Wild Parties/Orgies) every thurday-saturday in the off season and after every game. That type behavior has always existed in college sports.


So has drug abuse, drinking, steroids, violence on women, and all other sorts of nonsense. Because it has always "existed" doesn't mean squat. It's still wrong and should be punished heavilly

[to80td]

That stinks BOD. Classic example.

I see rape as a violent crime. Forced. Examples like the one you gave makes it clear that they have to reevaluate the law.

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by to80td
When I was a sophmore in college, I was looking for tail. I never checked ID.


well i never checked id, but never slept w/ a 15 year old.. i might not have been the most mature 19 year old.. but i was definately light years ahead of an average 15 year old.. imho, you can tell. there is no way i can see a 15 passing as an adult... i dont care what she LOOKS like.. you can see it in their behavior.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Originally posted by Tatonka



well i never checked id, but never slept w/ a 15 year old.. i might not have been the most mature 19 year old.. but i was definately light years ahead of an average 15 year old.. imho, you can tell. there is no way i can see a 15 passing as an adult... i dont care what she LOOKS like.. you can see it in their behavior. Actually, there are plenty of 15 year olds who look like they're 20 or so. But you're right, you should be able to tell it in their behavior, unless--you're drunk, which Vick apparently was

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by BillsOverDolphins
unless--you're drunk, which Vick apparently was

possibly a valid point there..

but the law wont care.. nor should they.

[to80td]

I hear you tatonka. But do you think he should be punished like a real rapist? I'm not saying you said that, but I'm just against the use of the word rape in situations like this.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Originally posted by Tatonka


possibly a valid point there..

but the law wont care.. nor should they.
I agree

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
So has drug abuse, drinking, steroids, violence on women, and all other sorts of nonsense. Because it has always "existed" doesn't mean squat. It's still wrong and should be punished heavilly

If he did something wrong he probably will be but from what I have read besides underaged drinking I cant find anything he did knowingly thats against the law. If he didn't know then he didn't know.

[helmetguy]

Originally posted by to80td
I hear you tatonka. But do you think he should be punished like a real rapist? I'm not saying you said that, but I'm just against the use of the word rape in situations like this.

The word "rape" in the context of "statutory rape," does not imply forceable violence against the victim. While I'm not intimately familiar with Virginia criminal law, the offense is referred to as "statutory rape" because the victim, being below a certain "statuory" age is not of sufficient maturity to "consent" to a sexual act. In some states, the age of consent is 16. Other states also require the act to be "age appropriate," that is, the difference in the parties' ages should not exceed three years. In Vick's case, he could be charged with statutory rape because he engaged in sexual conduct with a female who-by statute-was not old enough to consent; thus a "rape."

As I read the situation, even statutory rape would be difficult to prosecute to conviction. Even though the statute says that the girl was below the age of consent, it doesn't exclude the possibility that she was, indeed, a willing participant. As was mentioned somewhere else in this thread, Vick, being an adult, has the obligation to refrain. To encourage, entice, or participate, he is, in effect condoning said behavior; thus currupting the morals of a minor. One question I DO have, though is, if he did indeed do what was alleged, does he still have to register as a sex offender? Inputs?

[NC-BILLS44]

Why is this in a Bills forum???

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by to80td
I hear you tatonka. But do you think he should be punished like a real rapist? I'm not saying you said that, but I'm just against the use of the word rape in situations like this.

he wont be punished like a "real" rapist.. statutory rape does not carry near the same punishment at a true violent rape.


Originally posted by NC-BILLS44
Why is this in a Bills forum???

i put it here because he was a guy that a few people had mentioned, as far as waiting a year to pick a qb, and trying to grab him.

[NC-BILLS44]

Originally posted by Tatonka


he wont be punished like a "real" rapist.. statutory rape does not carry near the same punishment at a true violent rape.



i put it here because he was a guy that a few people had mentioned, as far as waiting a year to pick a qb, and trying to grab him.



Okay, I didn't see the connection.

[juice]

No word in Blacksburg about this yet? Sounds like the ACC might have already nipped this in the budd.
Originally posted by NC-BILLS44
Why is this in a Bills forum???

Dog thinks Da Bills should draft Vick in the third round I think.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by juice
No word in Blacksburg about this yet? Sounds like the ACC might have already nipped this in the budd.

Dog thinks Da Bills should draft Vick in the third round I think.

I see you are halucinating again, Juice

[LEVYTATION]

Little girls are alot smarter/more sly, than they used to be. I am not saying that Vick did not do these heinous acts but that girls also invite guys into these situations so that they may prosper. For god sake kids are involving themselves with drugs, sex, and whole macabre of other things that i had no clue of when i was say, twelve or eleven. Its ridiculous to say that one party is right over another just because of BS speculation. Sure he's the brother of the over rated Atlanta's Hope, but, they could have very well been using fake ID's where they met him, or dressed up in full VT garb, to mislead the not so bright Vick. Stupidity of both heads shouldn't give cause for predetermined judgement. SV

[elltrain22]

What a messy situation this could be for young vick. If this is true, he should just quit football, and go on tour w/ R. Kelly

[BillC]

I didn't do it.....

[DraftBoy]

Originally posted by juice


If he did something wrong he probably will be but from what I have read besides underaged drinking I cant find anything he did knowingly thats against the law. If he didn't know then he didn't know.


Whether you know its against the law or not. Its still against the law. Your point makes no sense. He apparenlty had sex with and video taped an underrage child, while he is only 19 it is still rape and he should be punished severly.

[BillsFever]

Why does everyone care so much? Do we personally know the victims or Marcus Vick?

If I was 19 and in that same situation I would've tried to bag all three of the chicks at once.

Don't tell me that at least 60% of the guys on this board didn't or wouldn't have bagged a hot ass 15 or 16 year old hottie when you were 19? Most who didn't was from the lack of offers, not from the lack of urge.

When I was a senior at 17 years old I was dating a sophmore who was 15. I turned 18 about 3 months before she turned 16. I guess I should've went to jail for corrupting the morals of this poor chick?

This is a bogus law. I can see some 30 year old dude trying to scrump with a 16 year old. These aren't innocent little girls though. Most of these "innocent" little girls who are doing this at 15 years old will still be doing it at 18 years old, and at 25, and at 30, and probably when they kick the death bed.

Younger girls like older guys. These girls aren't forced into anything. They are little sluts who will turn into older sluts.

Let the little hoe bags learn their lesson. I don't think a 19 year old guy should spend 3 years in prison for bagging a younger slut.

[The Spaz]

It's all fun and games when your in high school but when your in college you would have thought you learned a little something IMO.

[BillsFever]

With his family being as famous as it is, you would think he would've used better judgement. People like him are prime targets for sexual scandals. I don't see anything wrong with it but that's the law.

[DraftBoy]

Im 19 and personally I wouldnt touch a 15 year old and its not b.c of lack of offers. Its b.c its of no desire to me, a 15 year old isnt even fully matured yet, both physically or mentally. I think the law is in place to stop what happens between the older males and younger females, and while BillsFever has a small point, it still is against the law and I say he should be enforced within the full extent of the law.

[Tatonka]

i would disagree with a 15 year old being fully mature.. one of the guys on my hockey team has a neighbor that is hot as hell and she is 14.. she has at least a full C cup, and a tight body. i believe she is a cheerleader... if her body is not fully mature, then it doesnt take a fully mature body to be hot... she strolls around when we are getting the car packed up to go to games, because she has a crush on brian (who is my 32 year old goalie)...

now, i can freely admit that i am attracted to her.. but i also have enough sense to know that it just isnt right.

now obviously, it is alot different for a 19 year old... i am 28.. but regardless, assuming that the ages were known at the time of the deed... you have to use better judgement and have some morals.. even if they are sluts looking to get some.

[The Spaz]

That reminds me when I was in the Navy me and my took a rental car to W. Virginia(hickville) anyway he had family there. We were having a party with some of his neighbors and this girl came over (looked old enough) well she stated hitting on me and well I was all about it then I was told (hey man man she's 16) I was like woah but the chick wouldn't leave me alone, she was holding on to my arm I was practically dragging her to get her off of me. Anyway that's just a story that I remembered. I didn't do anything with her either!:up:

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by The Spaz
I didn't do anything with her either!:up:

;)

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Tatonka


;)

Well nothing besides a little touchy touchy but that was before I was told she was 16!

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by The Spaz
Well nothing besides a little touchy touchy but that was before I was told she was 16!

chester chester the child molester

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Tatonka


chester chester the child molester

:ontome::spit: :lol:

Hell no!!!! I'm 25 and my girlfriend is 32!:beers:

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by The Spaz
:ontome::spit: :lol:

Hell no!!!! I'm 25 and my girlfriend is 32!:beers:


what is his name? :lol:

:jk:

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Tatonka



what is his name? :lol:

:jk:


:madshake: :beer:

[Dannyboy]

Okay, Tatonka, I am pretty darned impressed. A link to the search warrant? Damn you're good.:bravo:

[hemi13]

What is going on with all the pervs out there these days. I have a 15 year old daughter and I'll kill any man that tries anything on her.

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by Dannyboy
Okay, Tatonka, I am pretty darned impressed. A link to the search warrant? Damn you're good.:bravo:

i can probably scratch up a picture of your underwear drawer too if you want....

:snicker:

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Tatonka


i can probably scratch up a picture of your underwear drawer too if you want....

:snicker:

:jawdrop: